Traditional Archery Discussions on the Leatherwall


POINTS OF 2024

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Stoner 01-Jan-24
Stoner 01-Jan-24
Jon Stewart 01-Jan-24
Stoner 04-Jan-24
Gasser53 04-Jan-24
BATMAN 04-Jan-24
Seahorse 05-Jan-24
Jon Stewart 05-Jan-24
Jon Stewart 05-Jan-24
Bjrogg 05-Jan-24
Bushytail 05-Jan-24
Jon Stewart 05-Jan-24
Randog 06-Jan-24
Bjrogg 06-Jan-24
BATMAN 06-Jan-24
Bjrogg 07-Jan-24
Bjrogg 07-Jan-24
Jon Stewart 07-Jan-24
Bjrogg 07-Jan-24
Mike E 10-Jan-24
Bjrogg 10-Jan-24
Bjrogg 13-Jan-24
Bjrogg 13-Jan-24
Jon Stewart 13-Jan-24
Bjrogg 13-Jan-24
Stoner 16-Jan-24
Mechanic 16-Jan-24
Mechanic 16-Jan-24
Mechanic 16-Jan-24
Jon Stewart 16-Jan-24
Bjrogg 16-Jan-24
Bjrogg 16-Jan-24
Mechanic 17-Jan-24
Jon Stewart 17-Jan-24
Mechanic 17-Jan-24
Bjrogg 17-Jan-24
Mechanic 17-Jan-24
Bjrogg 20-Jan-24
Bjrogg 20-Jan-24
Bjrogg 22-Jan-24
Bjrogg 22-Jan-24
Bjrogg 22-Jan-24
Bjrogg 24-Jan-24
Bjrogg 24-Jan-24
Bjrogg 25-Jan-24
Bjrogg 28-Jan-24
Mechanic 28-Jan-24
tcbow 28-Jan-24
Jon Stewart 28-Jan-24
Bjrogg 05-Feb-24
Jon Stewart 11-Feb-24
Don T. Lewis 11-Feb-24
bodymanbowyer 11-Feb-24
Bjrogg 11-Feb-24
Jon Stewart 12-Feb-24
wooddamon1 12-Feb-24
Mechanic 12-Mar-24
Mechanic 12-Mar-24
Don T. Lewis 12-Mar-24
Don T. Lewis 12-Mar-24
Bjrogg 13-Mar-24
TrapperKayak 13-Mar-24
Mechanic 18-Mar-24
Bjrogg 18-Mar-24
Mechanic 18-Mar-24
Jon Stewart 18-Mar-24
Stoner 25-Mar-24
Stoner 25-Mar-24
Stoner 25-Mar-24
Stoner 25-Mar-24
Jon Stewart 25-Mar-24
Bjrogg 25-Mar-24
Mechanic 26-Mar-24
Mechanic 26-Mar-24
Mechanic 26-Mar-24
Bjrogg 27-Mar-24
Stoner 27-Mar-24
Mechanic 27-Mar-24
Stoner 02-Apr-24
Stoner 02-Apr-24
Stoner 02-Apr-24
Bjrogg 02-Apr-24
Mechanic 03-Apr-24
Jon Stewart 03-Apr-24
Mechanic 03-Apr-24
Bowhogan 51 03-Apr-24
Stoner 06-Apr-24
Stoner 06-Apr-24
Jon Stewart 15-Apr-24
Bjrogg 15-Apr-24
Jon Stewart 15-Apr-24
Bjrogg 15-Apr-24
Stoner 18-Apr-24
From: Stoner
Date: 01-Jan-24

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Let's see some pointy thing's. Could be stone, bone, steel, etc. Could be a arrowhead, knife, hawk, etc. The only stipulation is YOU made it in 2023.

Black Butter Obsidian from Flagstaff,AZ. John

Go Blue !!!

From: Stoner
Date: 01-Jan-24




Oop's got in a hurry like the broken point's. Need to chill and get ready for the game. Any who .....

POINTS OF 2024

From: Jon Stewart
Date: 01-Jan-24




get those out of the way John,lol

From: Stoner
Date: 04-Jan-24




Nice knife Brian. I think I'll have to make a handle for that blade.

Not broken, just a happy accident. John

From: Gasser53
Date: 04-Jan-24

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A combat-utility in W-2 /stabilized cottonwood

From: BATMAN
Date: 04-Jan-24




OH MY! LOVE ( I repeat) LOVE THE TALENT from the WALL!

From: Seahorse
Date: 05-Jan-24

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Where do you find your fiber optic glass? Here's one I found (on-line) ??

From: Jon Stewart
Date: 05-Jan-24




Try Craig Ratzat at Neolithics for fiber optic. That is where I buy mine.

From: Jon Stewart
Date: 05-Jan-24

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Comes in a variety of colors and is easy to work. Most of these bright colors is fiber optics.

From: Bjrogg
Date: 05-Jan-24




Nice stuff guys. I only had a couple pieces of this stuff. I think I got it from Frank at the primitive archery meet in Marshall Michigan. It makes a nice sharp point. I like it better than regular glass or obsidian.

Bjrogg

From: Bushytail Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 05-Jan-24




Beautiful artwork! You guys are gifted! What handle material it that with all the slotted holes? It’s very unique.

From: Jon Stewart
Date: 05-Jan-24




Handles are dead cholla cactus from New Mexico. I gather it up when I am out there in the winter.

From: Randog
Date: 06-Jan-24




Beautiful work.

From: Bjrogg
Date: 06-Jan-24

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Sorry my pictures were to large I guess. I don’t know if something happened to my resize app. Always worked before. I tried some different settings. See what happens

I broke a nice one in three pieces earlier today. I think I will put this one down now

Bjrogg

From: BATMAN
Date: 06-Jan-24




Apologies Folks, but do people use the fiber optic glass to actually hunt? The reason I am asking, is worries about any chemicals or contaminants in the glass that could leech into game and possibly cause harm? Pls advise? BTW? Beautiful points.

From: Bjrogg
Date: 07-Jan-24

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I guess I have never hunted with a fiber optic glass point Batman. As far as physics go I don’t see any reason they wouldn’t work. They are very knappable and you can get a very sharp edge. I don’t know of any harmful chemicals associated with them but I guess I haven’t looked into it.

I’m going to see if I can post the resized pictures that were removed earlier.

First point of the year. Obsidian with a cholla handle

Bjrogg

From: Bjrogg
Date: 07-Jan-24

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Second point is fiber optic glass I thought would make a nice Christmas Ornament

Bjrogg

From: Jon Stewart
Date: 07-Jan-24




I don't know about any of that chemical stuff Batman. I know I cut myself on it almost every time I knap it and haven't grown a third eye yet.

From: Bjrogg
Date: 07-Jan-24




You know Jon that third eye might come in handy if you lost one knapping.

Always wear eye protection. No joke.

Bjrogg

From: Mike E
Date: 10-Jan-24




Another one of my favorite threads every year. Thanks for sharing all.

From: Bjrogg
Date: 10-Jan-24

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Sorry turned settings down a little on my resize app. See how that works.

Broke third but fourth came out really nice.

Bjrogg

From: Bjrogg
Date: 13-Jan-24

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Really been where I need to be for knapping lately. It seems like I either have it or I don’t so I’m taking advantage of it while I’m there.

Obsidian blade I knapped from a spall. Halved with pine pitch glue and white tail sinew. Cholla handle with black walnut and oak button.

Base is reclaimed black walnut from a pallet with the living edge showing. The base from a shed antler. I cut a grove for knife to set in. Then I lined the grove with scrap red fox leg fur.

I like it

Bjrogg

From: Bjrogg
Date: 13-Jan-24

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One more picture

Bjrogg

From: Jon Stewart
Date: 13-Jan-24




Nice work Brian.

From: Bjrogg
Date: 13-Jan-24




Thanks Jon and thanks for the cholla . Hope you have a good winter

Bjrogg

From: Stoner
Date: 16-Jan-24




Mike, Love that blue point!

Brian, nice job capping the cholla.

John

From: Mechanic
Date: 16-Jan-24

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Glass, just having fun

From: Mechanic
Date: 16-Jan-24




From: Mechanic
Date: 16-Jan-24

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Maybe one day I’ll get as good as some of you other guys, man, some of the points you all make are just so beautiful!

From: Jon Stewart
Date: 16-Jan-24




mechanic, that point looks really nice. It takes time is all. Make sure you save your 1st point to compare your work from a year from now. That is when you will notice a difference. Try and get to a knap in and sit with other knappers. Most all a really helpful and enjoy giving some tips of the trade.

From: Bjrogg
Date: 16-Jan-24




I agree with Jon. Those look promising mechanic. The funny thing is we knappers always seem to see what’s wrong with our points. That’s what we want to fix.

I can see lots of things that are right about your point to. Keep on chipping.

Bjrogg

PS glass is always hard to get good pictures of to

From: Bjrogg
Date: 16-Jan-24




Believe me there’s so much more to learn. I hope totem shares some of his work. He is definitely on another level.

Bjrogg

From: Mechanic
Date: 17-Jan-24




Jon, Bjrogg thanks for the words of encouragement, I’m enjoying it more and more. I would like to knap along with someone who knows what they are doing, how do I get in contact with knappers around me?

From: Jon Stewart
Date: 17-Jan-24




Pawel, google flint knaps ins near me and check out Flintknapers.com. Flintridge is one of the largest and is in Coshocton, Ohio.

From: Mechanic
Date: 17-Jan-24

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Jon, thanks, posted in flint knap-in , hopefully there’s something around me. This is another one I tried with black glass.

From: Bjrogg
Date: 17-Jan-24

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You are definitely learning mechanic. I wish I had more time with other knappers to. I’m appreciative of the time I’ve had but it was very limited. Actually I probably gained more from the material and tools I gathered. Shipping stone isn’t cheap. It’s really nice to have opportunity to see the stone. Hold it in your hand and maybe even hit it. Talk to the vendor. Spend the dollars you would have spent on shipping towards some stone instead.

You tube had a few really good videos. I watched a lot of YouTube. There was a guy that would explain his percussion really well. How he set up his platforms and then draw with a marker where he expected flake to travel. That’s when I started to really get it.

It is a very humbling skill. Very unforgiving. Your mistakes are literally in stone. Even when you know exactly what you want to do. You have to do it.

When it works out it’s pretty cool

Bjrogg

From: Mechanic
Date: 17-Jan-24




Bjrogg, there’s something very mystical about stone and glass especially when it flakes, that’s a very nice point you have there, just imagine handling that before metal was used by man.

From: Bjrogg
Date: 20-Jan-24

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Mystical like mushrooms? I think these two go together. My mushroom carving could be better.

Bjrogg

From: Bjrogg
Date: 20-Jan-24

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Maybe there will be more by spring

Bjrogg

From: Bjrogg
Date: 22-Jan-24

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Picked this one today

From: Bjrogg
Date: 22-Jan-24

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From: Bjrogg
Date: 22-Jan-24

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Bjrogg

From: Bjrogg
Date: 24-Jan-24

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This is on nasty, wicked sharp one. Definitely one of my better ones.

Bjrogg

From: Bjrogg
Date: 24-Jan-24

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Kinda having fun with these. Needed to transplant them into a bigger container.

Bjrogg

From: Bjrogg
Date: 25-Jan-24

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This one is my favorite so far

Bjrogg

From: Bjrogg
Date: 28-Jan-24

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The TV repair man said this one wasn’t worth fixing. He was just using the wrong tools.

Like I always say. If you can’t fix it with a hammer stone. Then you just can’t fix it.

TV glass . Percussion and pressure flaking

Bjrogg

From: Mechanic
Date: 28-Jan-24




Bjrogg , that’s the kind of tv show that I like watching, lol.

From: tcbow
Date: 28-Jan-24




Bjrogg, those are all super cool,very nice work!

From: Jon Stewart
Date: 28-Jan-24




Wear a respirator when working that stuff.

From: Bjrogg
Date: 05-Feb-24

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Always knap in well ventilated area. I like a ceiling fan lightly blowing down on me.

Here’s one from white glass countertop. Technically I knapped most of this one awhile ago. Just decided to finish it up now.

Bjrogg

From: Jon Stewart
Date: 11-Feb-24

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From: Don T. Lewis
Date: 11-Feb-24




Always enjoy this thread. You guys make some really beautiful things. Thanks for sharing with us.

From: bodymanbowyer
Date: 11-Feb-24




Good looking knife Jon. JF

From: Bjrogg
Date: 11-Feb-24




Nice knife Jon. Is that fiber optic glass?

Bjrogg

From: Jon Stewart
Date: 12-Feb-24




Brian thanks. It is opalite,( glass)

From: wooddamon1 Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 12-Feb-24




Very nice work, guys.

From: Mechanic
Date: 12-Mar-24

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Do miniature points count?

From: Mechanic
Date: 12-Mar-24

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Knife blade? Maybe

From: Don T. Lewis
Date: 12-Mar-24




Jon Stewart’s display stands are just as beautiful as his knives. WOW!

From: Don T. Lewis
Date: 12-Mar-24




Jon Stewart’s display stands are just as beautiful as his knives. WOW!

From: Bjrogg
Date: 13-Mar-24




They sure do Mechanic.

Bjrogg

From: TrapperKayak
Date: 13-Mar-24




Crikey, I'm jealous of all that impressive craftsmanship!

From: Mechanic
Date: 18-Mar-24

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Got my hands on some black obsidian, sure is easier to knap than chert . Can’t figure that chert stuff out for nothing, just keeps stalling out on me.

From: Bjrogg
Date: 18-Mar-24




Nice Pawel.

Yes they are very different yet the same.

Bjrogg

From: Mechanic
Date: 18-Mar-24




Bjrogg, im just an amateur trying to imitate what you guys are doing, im a long way away from being that good.

From: Jon Stewart
Date: 18-Mar-24




You are doing real good Pawel. When working harder rock like chert make sure your platforms are isolated and ground real good before you push your flakes.

From: Stoner
Date: 25-Mar-24

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Lots of good looking stuff popping up here. Here's a hunting point stalled out on the notches. John

From: Stoner
Date: 25-Mar-24

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Just finished this knife. Flagstaff, AZ. black butter obsidian with Michigan whitetail deer antler handle. John

From: Stoner
Date: 25-Mar-24

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From: Stoner
Date: 25-Mar-24

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Carved eagle head with pumpkin obsidian eyes. John

From: Jon Stewart
Date: 25-Mar-24




OUTSTANDING knife and handle John.

From: Bjrogg
Date: 25-Mar-24




Love it Stoner.

Nice to see you

Bjrogg

From: Mechanic
Date: 26-Mar-24

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Mahogany obsidian, I love this stuff.

From: Mechanic
Date: 26-Mar-24

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Except when the point breaks, haha

From: Mechanic
Date: 26-Mar-24

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I saved it? Notches next.

From: Bjrogg
Date: 27-Mar-24




Definitely making progress Pawel.

Keep on chipping

Bjrogg

From: Stoner
Date: 27-Mar-24




I feel your pain Pawel, but if you ain't breakin you ain't learnin.

From: Mechanic
Date: 27-Mar-24




Thanks guys, I just discovered that good abrading and having the copper of correct hardness makes a big difference in the process.

From: Stoner
Date: 02-Apr-24




Knapped this blade last night. John

From: Stoner
Date: 02-Apr-24

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Helps if you attach the pic, DA

From: Stoner
Date: 02-Apr-24

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My latest Davis Creek obsidian from Frank Newman at Outback Rocks.

From: Bjrogg
Date: 02-Apr-24




Wow that’s pretty stoner. Nice

Bjrogg

From: Mechanic
Date: 03-Apr-24




Stoner, that’s an interesting stone, has that “ galactic “ look, I like it.

From: Jon Stewart
Date: 03-Apr-24




Stone: getting ready to slab up about 40#s of that Davis Creek obsidian. It is tricky stuff to cut right to get the best out of the rainbow look tho.

From: Mechanic
Date: 03-Apr-24




Speaking of stone knives , I found this interesting video on YouTube describing the technique used in making long blades using pressure system ( technique), it’s from spain I believe. https://youtu.be/yNl91sDc5hI?si=h2rJ68rqmlC3_PiI

From: Bowhogan 51 Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 03-Apr-24




What amazing talent you guys have. Thanks for sharing your photos.

From: Stoner
Date: 06-Apr-24

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Thank you everyone for the compliments, there has been a lot of broken / 2-4-1 pieces to get to this POINT. No pun intended.... well maybe.

When I was at OJAM I spoke with Vyrl Keeter about cutting rainbow obsidian @ 10* off the grain of the stone, this works. But speaking with Frank Newman he said to cut it with the grain best you can. Mother nature does not go in a true straight line.

Contact Outback Rocks, Frank is a great source of knowledge and rock.

From: Stoner
Date: 06-Apr-24

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From: Jon Stewart
Date: 15-Apr-24

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Another chunk

From: Bjrogg
Date: 15-Apr-24




That’s obsidian Jon? Crazy stuff

Bjrogg

From: Jon Stewart
Date: 15-Apr-24




It is Brian. You want a slab pm me your address. Dang stuff has those little white spots on it but most go away when you pressure flake it. PM an addresss.

From: Bjrogg
Date: 15-Apr-24




Thanks Jon.

Looks very interesting.

Hope you had a nice winter.

Bjrogg

From: Stoner
Date: 18-Apr-24




Purdy rainbow obsidian there Jon.





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