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Old Stone Tomahawk heads, I Think

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D31 17-Mar-23
D31 17-Mar-23
Clydebow 17-Mar-23
Don T. Lewis 17-Mar-23
Jon Stewart 17-Mar-23
Don T. Lewis 17-Mar-23
Supernaut 18-Mar-23
Phil 18-Mar-23
Jon Stewart 18-Mar-23
Snow Crow 18-Mar-23
trad_bowhunter1965 18-Mar-23
tim finley 18-Mar-23
D31 18-Mar-23
Don T. Lewis 18-Mar-23
Stoner 19-Mar-23
Stoner 19-Mar-23
Stoner 19-Mar-23
Stoner 19-Mar-23
Stoner 19-Mar-23
Stoner 19-Mar-23
Don T. Lewis 19-Mar-23
Bob Rowlands 20-Mar-23
Jon Stewart 20-Mar-23
Jon Stewart 20-Mar-23
tim finley 20-Mar-23
Don T. Lewis 20-Mar-23
Don T. Lewis 20-Mar-23
Don T. Lewis 20-Mar-23
Bob Rowlands 20-Mar-23
Bob Rowlands 20-Mar-23
From: D31
Date: 17-Mar-23

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These have been in my family for at least 125 years. The story is My Great Grandfather found them on our family farm just North of Flint Michigan while working the ground.

From: D31
Date: 17-Mar-23

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I believe these are heads for tomahawks or small axes but I would like the opinion fellow Wallers on what they actually are.

From: Clydebow
Date: 17-Mar-23




I think those are what are called Celts.

From: Don T. Lewis
Date: 17-Mar-23




In your bottom picture. The tool all the way to the left and the one in the middle both look like celts to me. A later style stone ax. The tool all the way to the tight looks like an adze. Very nice collection of Native American stone tools. Thanks for sharing them with us.

From: Jon Stewart
Date: 17-Mar-23




Those are celts as Clydbow wrote.

From: Don T. Lewis
Date: 17-Mar-23

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Some of mine.

From: Supernaut
Date: 18-Mar-23




Great pieces of history!

From: Phil
Date: 18-Mar-23




Excellent stuff D31 thanks for posting such great artefacts ..

For those with more knowledge of these things would you be kind enough to expand on " celts" .... sound fascinating

From: Jon Stewart
Date: 18-Mar-23




Google celts for a more definitive answer as to their use.

From: Snow Crow
Date: 18-Mar-23




Would not want to get bonked by any of them!

From: trad_bowhunter1965 Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 18-Mar-23




Wow how about chopping wood with those.

From: tim finley Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member
Date: 18-Mar-23




I have about 40 Ive collected in my life time form finding them to buying at auctions . All that I have has the ring or grove cut. I have them in axe shape, cone shaped, and mostly round hammer heads . I have two that are small I think they are war club heads and a huge one that is a horse hobble . I dont know how to post pics or I could show my Indian rocks

From: D31
Date: 18-Mar-23

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This pic shows how symmetrical and sharp these are. I would not want to chop a tree down with any of them but I wouldn't want to get hit in the head with one either. Thanks for all the information shared about what my old stones are.

From: Don T. Lewis
Date: 18-Mar-23




I wonder how long it took them to make an ax. Stoner might know. I think he was going to try and make one.

From: Stoner
Date: 19-Mar-23

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Did some pecking on some rock. Really don't know what I'm doing. By the way I was born in Saginaw.John

From: Stoner
Date: 19-Mar-23




From: Stoner
Date: 19-Mar-23

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From: Stoner
Date: 19-Mar-23

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Basalt head with don's help of some measurements. John

From: Stoner
Date: 19-Mar-23

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From: Stoner
Date: 19-Mar-23

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Have an adze I started also, no pics... yet. John

From: Don T. Lewis
Date: 19-Mar-23




Wow! John! They came out sweet. You have an amazing gift my friend. Thanks for sharing those with us. Outstanding!

From: Bob Rowlands
Date: 20-Mar-23




Cool stuff for sure. Thanks for the photos.

Off topic. I wonder what the makers and users of these stone tools would say about the cheapest $5 'pos' Harbor Freight scout axe? My point being tools are all relative to an age. No doubt sometime in the future man will be commenting on 'ancient artifacts' of the plastic age. Or such.

From: Jon Stewart
Date: 20-Mar-23




John: OUTSTANDING work . Wished I would have made the effort to get over your way this winter. Maybe next winter.

Bob: I use modern tools to flint knap and my son jokes with me about doing it the way the Indians did it. I tell him that if there was a Walmart around the corner they would have went there and bought some copper to use. Of all the things I have found out west the one that interests me the most is what the Indian used to paint their pottery. The paint stays on the sherds I found for hundreds of years.

From: Jon Stewart
Date: 20-Mar-23

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These were given to me by a friend of mine who found them on his family farm in Michigan when he was a kid 60 years ago. Fine example of celt tools.

From: tim finley Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member
Date: 20-Mar-23




I wonder if those that dont have a ring are hand axes just held by the hand .

From: Don T. Lewis
Date: 20-Mar-23

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No they are not hand axes Tim. They were mounted to a wooden handle like this. And since the Celt is tapered towards the bit. The working end. It got tighter in the handle with use. Celts we’re from the woodland period. Full groove axes are much older. From the archaic Period. I know I always am thrilled when I find one!:)

From: Don T. Lewis
Date: 20-Mar-23




I didn’t make this handle. But this was a good example I found on the internet.

From: Don T. Lewis
Date: 20-Mar-23




I didn’t make this handle. But this was a good example I found on the internet.

From: Bob Rowlands
Date: 20-Mar-23




Jon, speaking of painting pottery, we have a lot of yucca plants on our property. I've pounded and scraped fibrous yucca leaves to make a small disposable paintbrush. That actually works quite well. Abo peoples here in the western U.S have made bowstring from yucca. Plus sandals, packs, baskets etc. Yucca is an incredibly usefull natural material with many uses. I've even made a soapy solution just for fun and used it to wash my hands. It isn't Dawn but it works OK.

Here's another one I haven't tried yet. I've taken my Echo weed whacker to and whipped yucca leaves into a fibrous wad that looks like muzzleloader tow. Sometime I'm gonna have to try that for loading and cleaning my rifle just for kicks.

From: Bob Rowlands
Date: 20-Mar-23




Yucca soap tutorial. Stomp the plant over with your boot, and grab loose leaves in the way with your hand. Shove the demo blade on your sawzall below ground level and cut the upper root free of the tap root. Remove your boot and grab the plant like it was the head of an enemy, and carry it into your garage. Posistion the root on top of the anvil of your bench vise, and beat it to a juicy pulp with your framing. You really gotta wail on that mofo to get a lather going. This is is no joke. That's how I remove yuccas around here. And how I make yucca soap. Yucca is the worlds toughest plant. Period. You gotta get medieval on its azz.

Now, for the softer side of Sears, an added benefit of yucca soap is it keeps hands nice and soft, and lightens them to a 'I sit at a computer all day' lily white. Plus it softens scar tissue and fades age spots. And the smell...ahh the smell... it's just marvelous. HAHAHA





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