| From: DanaC
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| Date: 22-Nov-22 |
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| From: George D. Stout
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| Date: 22-Nov-22 |
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To make that proper, the addendum that there is a point of diminishing returns in everything; but like throwing a golf ball in the snow bank and equating that to an arrow going through a thin deer hide, it's about as far from reality as one can get as it applies to archery. Yes, it shows more mass 'can' be a good thing, but it needs to be in the appropriate context. It can also be a metaphor for being overbowed, if you want to stretch the context even more.
Neither an anvil, nor a basketball, will do you much good in a deer hunt or a brick fight for that matter. :) Now someone help that guy up and send him home.
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| From: Jim
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| Date: 22-Nov-22 |
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True
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| From: JMartin
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| Date: 22-Nov-22 |
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Information needed more now than ever.
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| From: Jeff Durnell
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| Date: 22-Nov-22 |
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The diminishing return thing should only be used with proper context as well, but invariably isn't. Wonder why.
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| From: DanaC
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| Date: 22-Nov-22 |
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Or, trash talking at a basketball game is safer than at a smithy ;-)
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| From: Babysaph
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| Date: 22-Nov-22 |
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Lol. But a light fast arrow shot from a crossbow shoots through a deer at 50 lbs.
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| From: DanaC
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| Date: 22-Nov-22 |
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Jimmy up here the 50 pound deer still have spots on 'em ;-)
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| From: Mike E
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| Date: 22-Nov-22 |
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If he can throw the anvil why can't he catch it?
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| From: S Quinton
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| Date: 22-Nov-22 |
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Finally, Ashby simplified!
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| From: 2 bears
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| Date: 22-Nov-22 |
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How about adding razor blades to the basketball. :<) Can't forget sharp. >>>---> Ken
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| From: DanaC
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| Date: 22-Nov-22 |
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Ken, with an 'anvil blunt' you wouldn't need sharp edges ;-)
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| From: Bob Rowlands
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| Date: 22-Nov-22 |
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Scottish caber tossing excepted.
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| From: George Tsoukalas
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| Date: 22-Nov-22 |
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On the lighter side...
"One picture is worth a 1000 words."
I am glad Longfellow didn't know that.
Jawge
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| From: George Tsoukalas
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| Date: 22-Nov-22 |
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One more thing...
If an anvil and basketball are dropped from the same height they will both land at the same time (assuming this is done in a vacuum). :)
True about inertia...
Jawge
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| From: olddogrib
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| Date: 22-Nov-22 |
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Careful, you're giving Frisky ideas....if he could just winch that anvil up in a tree stand and drop it when the "roadrunner" is precisely underneath. Well, you get the picture. You may want to include a safety disclaimer strictly for "Legends".
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| From: N Y Yankee
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| Date: 22-Nov-22 |
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Sometimes, you have to go to extremes to get people to understand.
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| From: kaw369
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| Date: 22-Nov-22 |
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Acceleration can also affect force outcome. Needs to be factored in.
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| From: Batman
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| Date: 22-Nov-22 |
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Memo? Throwing anvils can be hazardous to your health. Do not try this at home? F=MA. Force equals MASS x Acceleration.
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| From: Babysaph
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| Date: 22-Nov-22 |
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50 yards. Sorry
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| From: Corax_latrans
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| Date: 22-Nov-22 |
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It’s not about Force. It’s about momentum
You want your Bow to put as MUCH Force to the Arrow as possible, and you want your Arrow to deliver as LITTLE Force to the Animal as possible. Because that means that your arrow zipped through without even slowing down. Guaranteed pass-through.
But the reason that the pic in the OP is kinda silly is that if a basketball weighs 1.4 pounds and the anvil weighs 280, then to make it an even comparison, the man would have to stop a basketball traveling 200 times faster than the anvil, wouldn’t he? Because Momentum is Mass X Velocity. And if the anvil is falling at 1 MPH, I’m pretty sure that a 200 MPH basketball is gonna leave a mark.
Some of us want the lightest arrow that will shoot quietly enough for our purposes. Others want the heaviest arrow that will provide a usable trajectory for our purposes. But if you hit ‘em with a sharp head in the right place…. Is it really gonna make any difference?
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| From: Mike E
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| Date: 22-Nov-22 |
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bluesman, what were your bow specs?
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| From: Woods Walker
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| Date: 23-Nov-22 |
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Good thing the anvil was already open before it hit the target! ;-)
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| From: lefty4
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| Date: 23-Nov-22 |
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An arrow receives it's energy from the bowstring. Once that nock leaves the string, there is no more energy applied to the arrow. Friction will cause it to slow down and gravity will eventually pull it to the ground.
Gravity continues to apply force to the basketball and anvil once they are dropped until they hit the ground. The further the drop (shot), the more energy the basketball and anvil carry. That is totally opposite with what occurs with an arrow unless the shot is straight down.
I am not sure the illustration/concept prove anything regarding arrow performance for bowhunting.
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| From: Mike E
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| Date: 23-Nov-22 |
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appreciate it, I was wondering if you used wood shafts,,'70 Bear T/D? very nice:)
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| From: kaw369
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| Date: 23-Nov-22 |
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Force acceleration and mass are relative!
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| From: Harleywriter
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| Date: 23-Nov-22 |
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But what many of us want to know is. Can you kill a deer with a 30-pound anvil?
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| From: pondscum2
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| Date: 25-Nov-22 |
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dropped from up in a tree, no doubt it would fracture spine. might have to climb down and finish it with a knife though...
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| From: Murray Seratt
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| Date: 26-Nov-22 |
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Harleywriter, only if it's a single bevel anvil.
Murray
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