For me it depends. For 15 yards split Hill bow. 20 to 30 yards string walk td hunting bow. 20 to 50 yards string walk bare bow. They all give me the grin.

THIS is why I got into shooting more traditional bows. I wanted to learn to actually "Shoot". The kinesthetics of the shot. Pointing and arrow and knowing it is going to strike the point. The honest answer. NO. I can't shoot, but I am learning to. The perceived instinctual shot with a longbow or hunting recurve at 15 or less, and then a gap from there out to about 25-30. I can gap (on the right day when things are really working) with my recurve out to 40 yards. When I hear the arrow hit the target or see it swing with a strike at 40 yards that really makes me happy. Fortunately my 36X36 target face catches those that just did not get put into alignment.

=Bones

I can shoot!! I have no aiming method at all. Just look where I want arrow to go and let it fly.

Disclaimer, I didn’t say I can shoot good lol.

Split finger, instinctive. The bow and arrow is a close range weapon, I know my limitations.

Pure point and click to 20. Gap @ 25 and 30. At 40 lbs, I keep my hunting shots at 25 MAX.

Most of the time, but even after fifty some years I still have those days:(

Split finger for all distance, it uncomplicates the aiming process. If you stick with a bow long enough, you can shoot very well without stringwalking or any other specialized anchor/method. I never had a desire or a need to learn a more complicated method. My point on is round about 55 yards with most of my bows, less than that it's just look, follow form, release and followthrough.

if I practice enough I shoot pretty good,, when I dont,, not very well,,

No trouble at all shooting any distance it is the hitting that gives me fits. >>>----> Ken

I shoot like George describes above and it has worked well for me.

Heck yes I can shoot, now being consistently accurate is another thing, lol.

ASL split with glove, because it gives me the warm fuzzy feeling. All others three under and a tab.

Guys -

Sorry, but threads like these are total BS.

What constitutes "good shooting" or rather "shooting well"?

Go to any club or range and the "good shooters" become pretty obvious, pretty quickly. On the Internet, not so much. Two guys can have (or claim) the exact same group size, at the exact same distance. For one guy, it's "great", for the other it sucks, OR, for one guy, it's "normal" and for the other, it's a photo op.

I know this is a just a rant, but it's the Internet, and well, it ain't gonna change.

Carry on,

Viper out.

Well then

Viper,

You are the BS: not this thread, the OP, or the folks who posted on topic.

Spread your pompous misery somewhere else, preferably downwind.

Thanks Snow Crow.

Snow -

Really? The OP didn't ask a question, he just made a statement (without qualification) so there was no "topic". He stated how he shoots, not how well, and the title sorta implied "how well".

I did ask a question, "What constitutes "good shooting" or rather "shooting well"?"

But haven't seen too many answers, why is that?

Viper out.

"Can you shoot" - I took that to be a question. As far as what constitutes good shooting, we propabably all have our own opinion.

I guess writing a book about something qualifies a person to be an arrogant, condescending prick.

I've looked for some evidence of any Olympic medals or shooting championships you've won but can't seem to find any.

To the OP's question.... Yes, I can shoot and do it daily. I like to enjoy myself.

Yeah!

Knocked 3 carpenter bees out of the air this morning with my swing draw

Style so yea I can shoot a little

Not gonna say how many I shot at though. :)

Arm is kinda tired though

There was definitely a question.

I couldn’t find anything in a search either Supernaut

Whether I shoot good, fair, or bad it all gives me the grin. :)

Amen Supernaut! The internet is a great place to play expert.

Yeah and when I run out af arrows I can throw my bow at the target in frustration too I shoot as good as I can be on the day.Hey I am alive getting outdoors exercising and loving it.Apart from bows and arrows what more could one want.I.live for that special shot you shouldn't have got away with.A feel good moment. Go and shoot and enjoy Osr

Come on Viper. Let’s see some pics of you shooting.

Dont make it personel guys.Take a chill pill.I really don't think Viper is an internet arrow splitter.I have a hunch he can handle his bow relatively well.

I think Osr144 is on the right track.

I Think I shoot well. But sometimes not so well. But I love to shoot traditional archery. I have been shooting for at least 30 years. It's fun when the stars all line up and the magic happens. Once I brought my daughter and three of her friends shooting at our sportsmen's club to shot recurves. It was one of those magic days. The kids would say hey can you hit the deer at 35 yards and some how the cedar arrow was in the 8 or 10 ring. Then they would say how about 20 yards 3d target, then 25 yard target then 45 yard target and every time the arrow was in the 8 or 10 ring. This does not happen often but that sure was a fun day. Those kids thought I was robin hood and I said no I was Fred Bear, I had to laugh. That was in our practice arena, we have about 25 3d targets at different distances. I just pick a spot and shoot just like throwing a baseball I would tell them.

Like I said this does not happen everyday. My daughter and her friend's always ask when can we go shooting They have fun and enjoy shooting which is great to see I just say this is more fun than sitting inside on those cell phone's right kids and hey smile !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Here we have a communication problem. Viper is right, one mans good shooting is another mans bad shooting. Everyone is different and no matter what sport there are those who spend their lifetime getting better, and there are those enjoying some backyard Archery. I personally am not competitive in nature, I don't even keep score when I'm golfing, I hate golfing. : )

Anybody who picks up a bow can shoot. I shoot well enough to have won dozens of 3d matches, and killed 100's of deer. That's well enough for me.

Some people are competitive, some aren’t. The only one I need to satisfy is myself. There are times when I hit pretty good but it is a bad shot. I also have been known to have a good shot miss. I shoot because I really enjoy it. When the thrill of the shot is gone I will quit. So do I shoot good? Mostly but I still have a lot to master.

Some people are competitive, some aren’t. The only one I need to satisfy is myself. There are times when I hit pretty good but it is a bad shot. I also have been known to have a good shot miss. I shoot because I really enjoy it. When the thrill of the shot is gone I will quit. So do I shoot good? Mostly but I still have a lot to master.

Some people are competitive, some aren’t. The only one I need to satisfy is myself. There are times when I hit pretty good but it is a bad shot. I also have been known to have a good shot miss. I shoot because I really enjoy it. When the thrill of the shot is gone I will quit. So do I shoot good? Mostly but I still have a lot to master.

Cranky

When I hit the spot I'm looking at I can shoot, when I miss the spot I'm a little off!!

Actually this thread got my old brain thinking. I feel confident out to 25 yards but that confidence was shaken when I started shooting 20 yards indoors. I had lost the “pick a spot” thinking, if I was in the kill on the animal target I was happy. Not anymore, shooting at “spots” has brought back that confidence and tighten up my groups, at least they were yesterday. Of course shooting the same bow and arrows 3 days in a row helps.

I admit I am real competitive.. Lots of things can go wrong with instinctive shooting. Sometimes you have good days and sometimes bad. Just like a baseball pitcher with control problems.

I will say I have seen guys that have no business in the woods with a bow. Shooting in the yard is one thing. Hunting and wounding animals is another. Now we all lose an animal once in a while but I know guys that consider it good enough to just draw blood. UH Oh. I may have a another thread about that coming up. LOL

Focusing on that spot is such a big thing in shooting. Assuming your practiced enough to make good clean shots, it is a must. All the animals I have shot with a bow I can clearly remember focusing on the spot. The ones I have missed, I remember a deer or whatever, but I do remember the arrow flying the wrong direction. The deer I shot last year I vividly remember hitting anchor and telling myself to focus on the spot. Everything from form to release locked in when I focused and I hit the spot exact.

I try not to exceed the magical distance of 17.3 yards. My yard does not allow more. With those parameters my groups are all usually pie plate sized. On a good day I'll surprise myself.

I always hated gaping low for a close shot, but have never minded gaping high for a long shot.

I don't know why that is, except it's just how my brain works I guess.

To that end, I have worked with arrow weight, and mostly arrow length to get me as close to a 20 yard point on as I can get. That has helped a lot, as I don't really have to think about any gap at all until I get past 25 yards.

From 25 yards all the way in to point blank it's "tip" point on & shoot, and I don't have much gap at all from just above 25 on out to 40 yards. 40 yards is 8" above my spot.

Rick

Back at this post ha. Okay just in some #2 bear limbs. My first plan is to give a good try at gap. Draven is a master at it. To clarify 15 yards with My hill bows is fast and easy. The others are more accurate as long as all the boxes get checked.

Viper good group shooting on your own not under pressure. 15 yards hill 2" the rest in under 4" multiple arrows. My point is aiming all the boxes have to be checked. Certainly split stink shooting can be done at longer ranges but with no real aiming where are you on a consistent basis. I have spent decades waiting for the gift. On some days it's there.

Hi George. I've studied most of your offerings. Point on 60 yards milk jug . Well I made a hill cc bow. Figured I try on it. Ends up as bout 70 yards been point on on. Hit the same bale but in not tight. 15 yards awesome.

When I need more help I ask Rick.

Some interesting comments. Two in particular I'm in full agreement with...make that three.

No. I'm only here for the food.

LOL @ ask Rick.

You ask me to hold your beer.

:-D

Rick

BTW, I can not only shoot but can play the drums, piano, guitar, banjo. You name it I can play it. But not too well.

“I guess writing a book about something qualifies a person to be an arrogant, condescending prick.”

From the tone of this thread, I’d venture that the writing a book part is pretty much optional.

Doc, not surprised to hear a hillbilly plays the banjo ;)

"From the tone of this thread, I’d venture that the writing a book part is pretty much optional."

The safety of not getting your jaw broken makes that tone easy for some I guess.

Viper you're right, its the internet. Kinda like how you made fun of me saying x10's are around 450 bucks and your speaking from experience because you own some and they're much more. And how you aluded that I was wrong about their win rate and success in a sarcastic way. Anyone who googled x10s saw that everone that sells them has them for 450ish. Being an ass doesn't make you correct guy. You don't have to dog people to make it look like your know what you talking about all the time. Now you're doing the same crap here. Sorry guys.

GLF -

You are correct, LAS has X10 shafts for $457.99. I'm just one of those guys who likes arrows with heads ($40 - $159.99), pin nocks ($13.50 for inserts + $15.99 for the nocks and yes, you'll need spares), and while I can bare shaft to 70M, I do generally prefer fletching ($15-20 per pack depending on type) add various glues and you're around $700. Heck I'll even throw in my assembly time free. Oh yeah, LAS will cut them for you for a fee or you can just throw in the price of an arrow saw.

And just to add insult to injury, if I need X10s, I don't have to pay for them.

Not to completely prove you wrong, but there are certain times when X10s are the wrong arrows, but you kinda have to know what you're doing, and not just buy the most expensive thing on the shelf.

If that wasn't condescending enough, I can do better, honest.

Viper out.

No, I can't. But I am trying.

now you did it

the scammers are now gonna be selling 10X on here

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