Traditional Archery Discussions on the Leatherwall


Can you shoot

Messages posted to thread:
Rooty 13-May-22
Dry Bones 14-May-22
Boker 14-May-22
YH2268 14-May-22
Yellah Nocks 14-May-22
hawkeye in PA 14-May-22
George D. Stout 14-May-22
bradsmith2010santafe 14-May-22
2 bears 14-May-22
Jim 14-May-22
Katman 14-May-22
Viper 14-May-22
sagebrush 14-May-22
Snow Crow 14-May-22
grizz 14-May-22
Viper 14-May-22
YH2268 14-May-22
Supernaut 14-May-22
Andy Man 14-May-22
grizz 14-May-22
Red Beastmaster 14-May-22
Therifleman 14-May-22
Osr144 15-May-22
Babysaph 17-May-22
bowhunt 17-May-22
thekunk 17-May-22
Will tell 17-May-22
JusPassin 17-May-22
monkeyball 17-May-22
redbuffalo 17-May-22
redbuffalo 17-May-22
redbuffalo 17-May-22
Nemophilist 17-May-22
Elkpacker 17-May-22
Live2Hunt 17-May-22
M60gunner 17-May-22
babysaph 17-May-22
babysaph 17-May-22
Live2Hunt 17-May-22
Wudstix 17-May-22
Rick Barbee 17-May-22
Rooty 20-May-22
Rooty 20-May-22
Rooty 20-May-22
Rooty 20-May-22
rallison 21-May-22
mangonboat 21-May-22
Rick Barbee 21-May-22
babysaph 21-May-22
Corax_latrans 21-May-22
Jegs.mi 21-May-22
Supernaut 22-May-22
GLF 22-May-22
Viper 22-May-22
Draven 22-May-22
Riverwolf 22-May-22
Andy Man 22-May-22
From: Rooty
Date: 13-May-22




For me it depends. For 15 yards split Hill bow. 20 to 30 yards string walk td hunting bow. 20 to 50 yards string walk bare bow. They all give me the grin.

From: Dry Bones
Date: 14-May-22




THIS is why I got into shooting more traditional bows. I wanted to learn to actually "Shoot". The kinesthetics of the shot. Pointing and arrow and knowing it is going to strike the point. The honest answer. NO. I can't shoot, but I am learning to. The perceived instinctual shot with a longbow or hunting recurve at 15 or less, and then a gap from there out to about 25-30. I can gap (on the right day when things are really working) with my recurve out to 40 yards. When I hear the arrow hit the target or see it swing with a strike at 40 yards that really makes me happy. Fortunately my 36X36 target face catches those that just did not get put into alignment.

=Bones

From: Boker
Date: 14-May-22




I can shoot!! I have no aiming method at all. Just look where I want arrow to go and let it fly.

Disclaimer, I didn’t say I can shoot good lol.

From: YH2268 Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 14-May-22




Split finger, instinctive. The bow and arrow is a close range weapon, I know my limitations.

From: Yellah Nocks
Date: 14-May-22




Pure point and click to 20. Gap @ 25 and 30. At 40 lbs, I keep my hunting shots at 25 MAX.

From: hawkeye in PA
Date: 14-May-22




Most of the time, but even after fifty some years I still have those days:(

From: George D. Stout
Date: 14-May-22




Split finger for all distance, it uncomplicates the aiming process. If you stick with a bow long enough, you can shoot very well without stringwalking or any other specialized anchor/method. I never had a desire or a need to learn a more complicated method. My point on is round about 55 yards with most of my bows, less than that it's just look, follow form, release and followthrough.

From: bradsmith2010santafe
Date: 14-May-22




if I practice enough I shoot pretty good,, when I dont,, not very well,,

From: 2 bears
Date: 14-May-22




No trouble at all shooting any distance it is the hitting that gives me fits. >>>----> Ken

From: Jim Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 14-May-22




I shoot like George describes above and it has worked well for me.

From: Katman
Date: 14-May-22




Heck yes I can shoot, now being consistently accurate is another thing, lol.

ASL split with glove, because it gives me the warm fuzzy feeling. All others three under and a tab.

From: Viper
Date: 14-May-22




Guys -

Sorry, but threads like these are total BS.

What constitutes "good shooting" or rather "shooting well"?

Go to any club or range and the "good shooters" become pretty obvious, pretty quickly. On the Internet, not so much. Two guys can have (or claim) the exact same group size, at the exact same distance. For one guy, it's "great", for the other it sucks, OR, for one guy, it's "normal" and for the other, it's a photo op.

I know this is a just a rant, but it's the Internet, and well, it ain't gonna change.

Carry on,

Viper out.

From: sagebrush
Date: 14-May-22




Well then

From: Snow Crow
Date: 14-May-22




Viper,

You are the BS: not this thread, the OP, or the folks who posted on topic.

Spread your pompous misery somewhere else, preferably downwind.

From: grizz
Date: 14-May-22




Thanks Snow Crow.

From: Viper
Date: 14-May-22




Snow -

Really? The OP didn't ask a question, he just made a statement (without qualification) so there was no "topic". He stated how he shoots, not how well, and the title sorta implied "how well".

I did ask a question, "What constitutes "good shooting" or rather "shooting well"?"

But haven't seen too many answers, why is that?

Viper out.

From: YH2268 Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 14-May-22




"Can you shoot" - I took that to be a question. As far as what constitutes good shooting, we propabably all have our own opinion.

From: Supernaut
Date: 14-May-22




I guess writing a book about something qualifies a person to be an arrogant, condescending prick.

I've looked for some evidence of any Olympic medals or shooting championships you've won but can't seem to find any.

To the OP's question.... Yes, I can shoot and do it daily. I like to enjoy myself.

From: Andy Man
Date: 14-May-22




Yeah!

Knocked 3 carpenter bees out of the air this morning with my swing draw

Style so yea I can shoot a little

Not gonna say how many I shot at though. :)

Arm is kinda tired though

From: grizz
Date: 14-May-22




There was definitely a question.

I couldn’t find anything in a search either Supernaut

From: Red Beastmaster
Date: 14-May-22




Whether I shoot good, fair, or bad it all gives me the grin. :)

From: Therifleman
Date: 14-May-22




Amen Supernaut! The internet is a great place to play expert.

From: Osr144
Date: 15-May-22




Yeah and when I run out af arrows I can throw my bow at the target in frustration too I shoot as good as I can be on the day.Hey I am alive getting outdoors exercising and loving it.Apart from bows and arrows what more could one want.I.live for that special shot you shouldn't have got away with.A feel good moment. Go and shoot and enjoy Osr

From: Babysaph Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 17-May-22




Come on Viper. Let’s see some pics of you shooting.

From: bowhunt
Date: 17-May-22




Dont make it personel guys.Take a chill pill.I really don't think Viper is an internet arrow splitter.I have a hunch he can handle his bow relatively well.

I think Osr144 is on the right track.

From: thekunk
Date: 17-May-22

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I Think I shoot well. But sometimes not so well. But I love to shoot traditional archery. I have been shooting for at least 30 years. It's fun when the stars all line up and the magic happens. Once I brought my daughter and three of her friends shooting at our sportsmen's club to shot recurves. It was one of those magic days. The kids would say hey can you hit the deer at 35 yards and some how the cedar arrow was in the 8 or 10 ring. Then they would say how about 20 yards 3d target, then 25 yard target then 45 yard target and every time the arrow was in the 8 or 10 ring. This does not happen often but that sure was a fun day. Those kids thought I was robin hood and I said no I was Fred Bear, I had to laugh. That was in our practice arena, we have about 25 3d targets at different distances. I just pick a spot and shoot just like throwing a baseball I would tell them.

Like I said this does not happen everyday. My daughter and her friend's always ask when can we go shooting They have fun and enjoy shooting which is great to see I just say this is more fun than sitting inside on those cell phone's right kids and hey smile !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

From: Will tell
Date: 17-May-22




Here we have a communication problem. Viper is right, one mans good shooting is another mans bad shooting. Everyone is different and no matter what sport there are those who spend their lifetime getting better, and there are those enjoying some backyard Archery. I personally am not competitive in nature, I don't even keep score when I'm golfing, I hate golfing. : )

From: JusPassin
Date: 17-May-22




Anybody who picks up a bow can shoot. I shoot well enough to have won dozens of 3d matches, and killed 100's of deer. That's well enough for me.

From: monkeyball
Date: 17-May-22




I know this guy can shoot....cause i taught him the basics and he took it from there.

He can REALLY shoot when he knows there may be a dollar bill in one of the balloons he's shooting at!

Good Shooting->->->->Craig

From: redbuffalo
Date: 17-May-22




Some people are competitive, some aren’t. The only one I need to satisfy is myself. There are times when I hit pretty good but it is a bad shot. I also have been known to have a good shot miss. I shoot because I really enjoy it. When the thrill of the shot is gone I will quit. So do I shoot good? Mostly but I still have a lot to master.

From: redbuffalo
Date: 17-May-22




Some people are competitive, some aren’t. The only one I need to satisfy is myself. There are times when I hit pretty good but it is a bad shot. I also have been known to have a good shot miss. I shoot because I really enjoy it. When the thrill of the shot is gone I will quit. So do I shoot good? Mostly but I still have a lot to master.

From: redbuffalo
Date: 17-May-22




Some people are competitive, some aren’t. The only one I need to satisfy is myself. There are times when I hit pretty good but it is a bad shot. I also have been known to have a good shot miss. I shoot because I really enjoy it. When the thrill of the shot is gone I will quit. So do I shoot good? Mostly but I still have a lot to master.

From: Nemophilist
Date: 17-May-22

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From: Elkpacker
Date: 17-May-22




Cranky

From: Live2Hunt
Date: 17-May-22




When I hit the spot I'm looking at I can shoot, when I miss the spot I'm a little off!!

From: M60gunner
Date: 17-May-22




Actually this thread got my old brain thinking. I feel confident out to 25 yards but that confidence was shaken when I started shooting 20 yards indoors. I had lost the “pick a spot” thinking, if I was in the kill on the animal target I was happy. Not anymore, shooting at “spots” has brought back that confidence and tighten up my groups, at least they were yesterday. Of course shooting the same bow and arrows 3 days in a row helps.

From: babysaph Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member
Date: 17-May-22




I admit I am real competitive.. Lots of things can go wrong with instinctive shooting. Sometimes you have good days and sometimes bad. Just like a baseball pitcher with control problems.

From: babysaph Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member
Date: 17-May-22




I will say I have seen guys that have no business in the woods with a bow. Shooting in the yard is one thing. Hunting and wounding animals is another. Now we all lose an animal once in a while but I know guys that consider it good enough to just draw blood. UH Oh. I may have a another thread about that coming up. LOL

From: Live2Hunt
Date: 17-May-22




Focusing on that spot is such a big thing in shooting. Assuming your practiced enough to make good clean shots, it is a must. All the animals I have shot with a bow I can clearly remember focusing on the spot. The ones I have missed, I remember a deer or whatever, but I do remember the arrow flying the wrong direction. The deer I shot last year I vividly remember hitting anchor and telling myself to focus on the spot. Everything from form to release locked in when I focused and I hit the spot exact.

From: Wudstix Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 17-May-22




I try not to exceed the magical distance of 17.3 yards. My yard does not allow more. With those parameters my groups are all usually pie plate sized. On a good day I'll surprise myself.

From: Rick Barbee
Date: 17-May-22




I always hated gaping low for a close shot, but have never minded gaping high for a long shot.

I don't know why that is, except it's just how my brain works I guess.

To that end, I have worked with arrow weight, and mostly arrow length to get me as close to a 20 yard point on as I can get. That has helped a lot, as I don't really have to think about any gap at all until I get past 25 yards.

From 25 yards all the way in to point blank it's "tip" point on & shoot, and I don't have much gap at all from just above 25 on out to 40 yards. 40 yards is 8" above my spot.

Rick

From: Rooty
Date: 20-May-22




Back at this post ha. Okay just in some #2 bear limbs. My first plan is to give a good try at gap. Draven is a master at it. To clarify 15 yards with My hill bows is fast and easy. The others are more accurate as long as all the boxes get checked.

From: Rooty
Date: 20-May-22




Viper good group shooting on your own not under pressure. 15 yards hill 2" the rest in under 4" multiple arrows. My point is aiming all the boxes have to be checked. Certainly split stink shooting can be done at longer ranges but with no real aiming where are you on a consistent basis. I have spent decades waiting for the gift. On some days it's there.

From: Rooty
Date: 20-May-22




Hi George. I've studied most of your offerings. Point on 60 yards milk jug . Well I made a hill cc bow. Figured I try on it. Ends up as bout 70 yards been point on on. Hit the same bale but in not tight. 15 yards awesome.

From: Rooty
Date: 20-May-22




When I need more help I ask Rick.

From: rallison
Date: 21-May-22




Some interesting comments. Two in particular I'm in full agreement with...make that three.

From: mangonboat
Date: 21-May-22




No. I'm only here for the food.

From: Rick Barbee
Date: 21-May-22




LOL @ ask Rick.

You ask me to hold your beer.

:-D

Rick

From: babysaph Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member
Date: 21-May-22




BTW, I can not only shoot but can play the drums, piano, guitar, banjo. You name it I can play it. But not too well.

From: Corax_latrans
Date: 21-May-22




“I guess writing a book about something qualifies a person to be an arrogant, condescending prick.”

From the tone of this thread, I’d venture that the writing a book part is pretty much optional.

From: Jegs.mi Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 21-May-22




Doc, not surprised to hear a hillbilly plays the banjo ;)

From: Supernaut
Date: 22-May-22




"From the tone of this thread, I’d venture that the writing a book part is pretty much optional."

The safety of not getting your jaw broken makes that tone easy for some I guess.

From: GLF
Date: 22-May-22




Viper you're right, its the internet. Kinda like how you made fun of me saying x10's are around 450 bucks and your speaking from experience because you own some and they're much more. And how you aluded that I was wrong about their win rate and success in a sarcastic way. Anyone who googled x10s saw that everone that sells them has them for 450ish. Being an ass doesn't make you correct guy. You don't have to dog people to make it look like your know what you talking about all the time. Now you're doing the same crap here. Sorry guys.

From: Viper
Date: 22-May-22




GLF -

You are correct, LAS has X10 shafts for $457.99. I'm just one of those guys who likes arrows with heads ($40 - $159.99), pin nocks ($13.50 for inserts + $15.99 for the nocks and yes, you'll need spares), and while I can bare shaft to 70M, I do generally prefer fletching ($15-20 per pack depending on type) add various glues and you're around $700. Heck I'll even throw in my assembly time free. Oh yeah, LAS will cut them for you for a fee or you can just throw in the price of an arrow saw.

And just to add insult to injury, if I need X10s, I don't have to pay for them.

Not to completely prove you wrong, but there are certain times when X10s are the wrong arrows, but you kinda have to know what you're doing, and not just buy the most expensive thing on the shelf.

If that wasn't condescending enough, I can do better, honest.

Viper out.

From: Draven
Date: 22-May-22




No, I can't. But I am trying.

From: Riverwolf
Date: 22-May-22




;^)))) Long overdue ;^))))

From: Andy Man
Date: 22-May-22




now you did it

the scammers are now gonna be selling 10X on here





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