Traditional Archery Discussions on the Leatherwall


Kolpin (Fratzke) Camo Ad 1976

Messages posted to thread:
George D. Stout 14-Jan-22
George D. Stout 14-Jan-22
longbow1968 14-Jan-22
Jon Stewart 14-Jan-22
SteveD 14-Jan-22
GLF 14-Jan-22
Sawtooth (Original) 14-Jan-22
Yeller 14-Jan-22
TradToTheBone 14-Jan-22
Woods Walker 14-Jan-22
1Longbow 14-Jan-22
Pinecrest 14-Jan-22
Kanati 14-Jan-22
Yeller 14-Jan-22
soap creek 15-Jan-22
Dale Rohrbeck 15-Jan-22
Supernaut 15-Jan-22
George D. Stout 15-Jan-22
treetopper 15-Jan-22
1Longbow 15-Jan-22
groundhunter50 15-Jan-22
Muddyboots 15-Jan-22
Stealth2 15-Jan-22
Stealth2 15-Jan-22
jjs 15-Jan-22
JusPassin 15-Jan-22
Jack Whitmrie jr 15-Jan-22
pickngrin 15-Jan-22
George D. Stout 15-Jan-22
Mpdh 15-Jan-22
TGbow 15-Jan-22
Dutch oven 15-Jan-22
Wudstix 15-Jan-22
SB 16-Jan-22
Zbone 16-Jan-22
Trailsend 16-Jan-22
Yeller 16-Jan-22
Jon Stewart 16-Jan-22
George D. Stout 16-Jan-22
George D. Stout 16-Jan-22
EZ Archer 16-Jan-22
Silvrtip 16-Jan-22
Yeller 16-Jan-22
recurve ron 16-Jan-22
Jack Whitmrie jr 16-Jan-22
George D. Stout 16-Jan-22
Yeller 16-Jan-22
groundhunter50 16-Jan-22
static 17-Jan-22
knobby 17-Jan-22
Mpdh 17-Jan-22
From: George D. Stout
Date: 14-Jan-22




I'm still wearing my brown camo sweater I bought in 1978. If you have any laying around the house....not being used. :)

From: George D. Stout
Date: 14-Jan-22

George D. Stout's embedded Photo



From: longbow1968
Date: 14-Jan-22




Nice… I didn’t realize it was marketed by Kolpin. But I was only ten in ‘78, so there were quite a few things I missed ;)

From: Jon Stewart
Date: 14-Jan-22




Still have my sweater but wife shrunk it, lol. At least that is what I am telling myself.

From: SteveD Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 14-Jan-22




Still using mine, some from '80 and on. Even bought it from Bob right from his house when he was getting out of selling it. Good stuff and good pattern.

From: GLF
Date: 14-Jan-22




That stuff was great. I think over half our club wore it.

From: Sawtooth (Original) Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 14-Jan-22




That is awesome. Thanks for posting.

From: Yeller Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 14-Jan-22




Loved it. You guys ever think that the good stuff we used just can’t get it anymore. This stuff was great. To short made and sold great stuff also

From: TradToTheBone
Date: 14-Jan-22




I still regret not buying it . It wouldn’t fit me now if I had.

From: Woods Walker
Date: 14-Jan-22




My rule, which I finally learned WAY to late in life, is if you find an item that really works well for you, buy AT LEAST 2 of them, because the more you like it the higher the odds that it'll be discontinued in short order!

From: 1Longbow
Date: 14-Jan-22




Still have my jacket ,pants and hat. .Bought it back in the 80's ,still going strong

From: Pinecrest
Date: 14-Jan-22




I use it all the time,vest pants pullovers hats snow camo and blaze orange. I,even have 2 of the fleece lined handwarmers.

From: Kanati
Date: 14-Jan-22




Had the pullover sweater. The year i was getting the vest they shut down. Always wanted that vest.

From: Yeller Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 14-Jan-22




Have sweater. And two vest

From: soap creek
Date: 15-Jan-22




My wife and I both had the sweaters. Mine was the green camo and hers the brown. I wore mine completely out. She still has hers. Good quality. I really liked them. Wish they were still available.

From: Dale Rohrbeck
Date: 15-Jan-22




Still have several pieces of Fratzke Winona camo. Pants have worn out years ago but the pull over, fleece vest and jacket are still going strong.

From: Supernaut
Date: 15-Jan-22




Good stuff. I can remember my dad having Kolpin products when I was a kid.

Honest question, (2 actually):

1. Was this camo regarded as high tech when it came out, pattern, materials, etc.?

2. Do you think someday folks will reminisce about today's "new" camo like, Sitka, First Lite, Kuiui etc.?

From: George D. Stout
Date: 15-Jan-22




The term 'high tech' wasn't bandied about like it is nowadays. Durable, long-lasting, quiet, etc. The Winona Knitting Mills made the Fratzke clothing from acrylic yarn, which was basically formulated post World War II. I think the knit style they used is probably more important than the fabric, and of course the moths don't eat it either. :)

What made it sell well was Bob Fratzke posing with those giant bucks back in the 70's. :)

From: treetopper
Date: 15-Jan-22




Jon Stewart,

Don't be too quick in blaming the wife for your sweater shrinkage. I found mine had done the same thing.

It's caused by the hangers. When things are on hangers for long periods of time (a year or so) they will shrink. I learned this from the owner of a men's clothing store in town. Beware the "Hanger Shrinkage!"

Just this week, I found it had absolutely devastated a dress suit I haven't worn in three years. LOL

Stay safe and warm.

From: 1Longbow
Date: 15-Jan-22




The Knit tree can make you a copy of it. I had a jacket made by them 7 years ago and its still wearing ,tough as nails

From: groundhunter50
Date: 15-Jan-22




I am still wearing Fratzke sweaters and vests. Picked up some also at Trad shoots here in Wis,,,, love them

From: Muddyboots
Date: 15-Jan-22




I smell BS on the shrinkage thing! How about "expanded waistline"! Wait, my acrilic sweater from the mid '70's must have strunk since it is now snug.

From: Stealth2 Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member
Date: 15-Jan-22




I still have and use my Fratzke warm vest. White inside, camo exterior.

From: Stealth2 Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member
Date: 15-Jan-22




I still have and use my Fratzke warm vest. White inside, camo exterior.

From: jjs
Date: 15-Jan-22




Still have some and still use it. For ground hunting it has worked really well with the large pattern, the only down side are the burrs that get picked up and pulling out but that gives it the 3D effect.

From: JusPassin
Date: 15-Jan-22




You guys must not have briars and multiflora rose. "Sweaters" last one outing here.

From: Jack Whitmrie jr
Date: 15-Jan-22




Wear my beanie every year

From: pickngrin
Date: 15-Jan-22




Still wear mine every season. My wife has mended them several times over the years. My son was a baby when I got mine. That was 37 years ago!

From: George D. Stout
Date: 15-Jan-22




Bruce, we have plenty of multiflora rose and other briers, we just go around it. :)

From: Mpdh Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 15-Jan-22




I have an ASAT sweater from Brigade Quartermasters. Were these made the same ?

MP

From: TGbow
Date: 15-Jan-22




I had forgotten about the Kolpin brand..this thread brought back memories of seeing the Kolpin brand products in the stores. Arm guards, quivers,ect.

From: Dutch oven
Date: 15-Jan-22




http://www.theknittree.com/showcamo.html

From: Wudstix Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 15-Jan-22




I'm trying to do that with Asbell wool, buy a couple to have for awhile.

From: SB
Date: 16-Jan-22




I don't think Fratzke had any connection with the company back in 1976.

From: Zbone Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 16-Jan-22




I still have my Winona camo hat/beenie...

From: Trailsend Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 16-Jan-22




The year I was married 1976

Good camo I own lots

From: Yeller Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 16-Jan-22




Is Bob still alive He would love this post

From: Jon Stewart
Date: 16-Jan-22




Muddyboots and treetopper: I needed a smile this morning. Just having a coffee thinking about my wife reading Leatherwall. I believe I still have my wife's sweater also.

From: George D. Stout
Date: 16-Jan-22




He was as of 2016, hopefully he is still around. I think there was another fellow also that he hunted with, but not sure I'm remembering correctly.

From: George D. Stout
Date: 16-Jan-22




Hey wait, I'll ask Glen Helgeland over on FB. He was part of Bob's book called Taking Trophy Whitetails.

From: EZ Archer
Date: 16-Jan-22




George- is that you in the pictures? Looking good!

From: Silvrtip Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member
Date: 16-Jan-22




Yes Bob is still alive & well!! He doesn't do computers but we are good friends and talk weekly on the phone. I too own LOTS of Winona Camo!! I have extras of cardigans, hats etc...as I live by the Murphy's Law Rule, when you like something stock up on it!!! We have hunted together alot and in Wyoming (antelope) as well. He has been a father figure to me for years and a best friend. Unfortunately he gave up bow hunting this past season, 2021. I remember his phone call telling me that he just can't do it anymore and he was "Hanging it up" He turned 82 here in January he shares his Bday with Elvis!! Old age, bad knees, back etc...have taken there toll. I will tell him about this post, he will Love it!!! I let him know of pictures people take in his camo, the great endorsements... Thank you All, Silvrtip

From: Yeller Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 16-Jan-22




I have his book. Great book

From: recurve ron
Date: 16-Jan-22




I was talking to my wife at a goodwill store in Spokane Washington back in 92 when i looked over her shoulder and spied a winona sweater hanging on a women's sweater rack. they must have thought it was just an ugly women's sweater.Got it for $3.50 . Wore it hunting last weekend.

From: Jack Whitmrie jr
Date: 16-Jan-22

Jack Whitmrie jr's embedded Photo



Here is hat that I still have.

From: George D. Stout
Date: 16-Jan-22




I just heard back from Glenn Helgeland; he said Bob is alive and well but moving a lot slower, and thinks he took a deer with the bow last year. He is past 80 now so not a youngster. :) Glenn has a new book coming out so it will likely get information posted here by him or someone else.

From: Yeller Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 16-Jan-22




Tks George. Also looking forward to Glenn’s book

From: groundhunter50
Date: 16-Jan-22




Glenn Helgeland,,,, that is another Wisconsin treasure

From: static
Date: 17-Jan-22




Have one of the Bob's original cardigan and several pieces when a gentleman in Va was making it

From: knobby
Date: 17-Jan-22




The Winona brand is still a favorite of mine. An effective camo pattern that doesn't fade out and the garments are always quiet. I still use the lined-cardigan and Survivor hat, and the pants make an occasional appearance, as well.

From: Mpdh Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 17-Jan-22




I bought the book from Mr. Helgeland and he signed it for me. It was sometime in the mid 80s, probably at the Michigan bowhunters rendezvous when it was held at the Clare county fairgrounds.

MP





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