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Feather shape??

Messages posted to thread:
charlee 10-Jan-22
George D. Stout 10-Jan-22
Nemophilist 10-Jan-22
dnovo 10-Jan-22
Tdwhip 10-Jan-22
Nemophilist 10-Jan-22
TradToTheBone 10-Jan-22
Nemophilist 10-Jan-22
monkeyball 10-Jan-22
monkeyball 10-Jan-22
monkeyball 10-Jan-22
monkeyball 10-Jan-22
Nemophilist 10-Jan-22
Stix 10-Jan-22
Maynard 10-Jan-22
Snow Crow 10-Jan-22
M60gunner 10-Jan-22
Riverwolf 10-Jan-22
lefty4 10-Jan-22
Corax_latrans 10-Jan-22
Suedog 10-Jan-22
Dry Bones 10-Jan-22
MStyles 10-Jan-22
GUTPILEPA 11-Jan-22
the Black Spot 11-Jan-22
Todd the archer 11-Jan-22
kaw369 11-Jan-22
Bernie P. 11-Jan-22
Todd the archer 11-Jan-22
sir misalots 11-Jan-22
Blue Duck 11-Jan-22
Nemophilist 11-Jan-22
Maynard 11-Jan-22
Dan In MI 11-Jan-22
JusPassin 11-Jan-22
Dan In MI 11-Jan-22
Bob Rowlands 11-Jan-22
RonG 11-Jan-22
Nemophilist 11-Jan-22
Andy Man 11-Jan-22
charlee 11-Jan-22
Wudstix 11-Jan-22
Nemophilist 11-Jan-22
Sasquatch73 11-Jan-22
aromakr 11-Jan-22
Nemophilist 11-Jan-22
Dan In MI 11-Jan-22
Supernaut 11-Jan-22
Darryl/Deni 11-Jan-22
1Longbow 13-Jan-22
From: charlee
Date: 10-Jan-22




Just for the heck of it I thought I might try some Banana Feathers on my next go round. I am curious if anyone has experienced any flight difference ( or other) between, Banana, Shield and Parabolic feather shape? Everything else being equal (Wood,Spine,Length etc...). I am assuming there is not but wondering. Thanks in advance.

From: George D. Stout
Date: 10-Jan-22




I find they are louder, and pretty much overkill. They look cool if that's what you're after. :)

From: Nemophilist
Date: 10-Jan-22

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There is different size banana fletching. I've shot 4", 5", and 5 1/2". The 5 1/2" were a little nosier because they had a higher profile. A few years ago, I made six fancy 5 1/2" banana fletch cedar arrows and out of them six arrows I killed five bucks, and I killed one of my black bears with a 5 1/2" banana fletched maple arrow. So, banana fletching isn't going to scare game animals into the next county. Give the banana fletch a try and find out for yourself if you like them or not.

From: dnovo Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 10-Jan-22




I've been using banana fletch for 20+ years. They are my favorite. George is right that they can be noisy but my deer in freezer never paid any attention. I've been buring my own for quite a while and I've made mine smaller than the big Maxifletch. I go 4 3/4 by 5/8 and they fly the same. And they look cool!

From: Tdwhip
Date: 10-Jan-22




I've started burning a low profile 4 inch banana feather. I not only like the way they look but they fly real good for my also.

From: Nemophilist
Date: 10-Jan-22

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They look cool to me also dnovo.

From: TradToTheBone
Date: 10-Jan-22




In my experience definitely noisier than parabolic or shield.

From: Nemophilist
Date: 10-Jan-22

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My high profile ones.

From: monkeyball
Date: 10-Jan-22




I start here....

From: monkeyball
Date: 10-Jan-22




Then go to here......

From: monkeyball
Date: 10-Jan-22




Then here.......

From: monkeyball
Date: 10-Jan-22




And end up here.........

modified bananas, about 4". I like them.

Good Shooting->->->->Craig

From: Nemophilist
Date: 10-Jan-22




If you keep the profile (height) lower, they are not very noisy at all.

From: Stix
Date: 10-Jan-22




They are cool looking.

From: Maynard
Date: 10-Jan-22




I cut my banana fletch left wing 5" and the last five bucks Didn't hear a thing. I like Banana cut.

From: Snow Crow
Date: 10-Jan-22




How about using fletch height measurements instead of descriptors such as "low" or "high" cut? It takes all of 15 seconds to measure your fletch height and would add immeasurably ;) to the discussion.

For example, Maxi-fletch are in the 5/8"-3/4" height range; the majority of factory cuts regardless of shape are in the 1/2"-5/8" range.

Fletch trimming/tuning for sound for me starts at 1/2" inch: anything above that produces too much auditory and visual noise for my liking. Most of my feathers and vanes end up at 10mm (.39" or a hair over 3/8") to get close to the dead silent flight I build to.

From: M60gunner
Date: 10-Jan-22




Back when I got my Pete George LB I made me a Hill style quiver and a dozen woods using banana cut feathers. I bought the “Lil chopper “ and cut the max length and profile. Red and white feathers on cap dip white shafts. Boy was I impressed with myself until I shot the first arrow. Sounded like a flu-flu. Not only that but it took forever for the arrow to get down range. So I trimmed the feathers down which helped. I still like the looks of the shape, even bought some vanes in that shape for target shooting, but not where quite is important.

From: Riverwolf
Date: 10-Jan-22




...more fletch=more drag=slower. Higher-longer=more noise.....

Moderation.....;)

From: lefty4
Date: 10-Jan-22




Craig, I can smell those feathers burning all the way to Colorado!

I love that smell. Kinda like bacon and Hoppes #9.

I love drawing back an arrow with burned feathers and getting a good whiff just before the release.

From: Corax_latrans
Date: 10-Jan-22




What Riverwolf said!

I bought a dozen high profile 5 inch bananas… once.

From: Suedog
Date: 10-Jan-22

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Look good to me.

From: Dry Bones
Date: 10-Jan-22




I had some maple shafts that were Banana fletched. I really did not notice any difference between those and the shield cut maples. They all grouped up together as long as the shaft was straight.

-Bones

From: MStyles
Date: 10-Jan-22




When I restarted shooting recurves in ‘98, I bought some banana fletching from McMahon’s Archery. They didn’t work so well for me. I believe shield works best for my arrows. But yeah, they look cool.

From: GUTPILEPA
Date: 11-Jan-22




I like the looks of them shot 2 buck with them but they are cool

From: the Black Spot
Date: 11-Jan-22

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5” long x 3/4”(?). Don’t like the high pro banana

From: Todd the archer Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 11-Jan-22




I shot some years ago at the Pennsylvania bowhunter festival Longbow competition. There was one fellow who is using the big banana fletching who was really doing well except every time a longer target came along he would drop short which really hurt his score. He was in the top three as I was second, a guy named Val (passed away a few years ago) was first and Walter Lucki was third.

I was using 3-5” parabolic‘s which worked well for me and is pretty much what I use today.

From: kaw369
Date: 11-Jan-22




I've shot bananas for decades. The larger profile does get a little noisy though. Just keep them low. They do seem to correct a bad release quicker.

From: Bernie P. Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 11-Jan-22




Been using them for many years.From the 5 3/4" Maxi down to 4".Mostly 4 3/8" lately.

From: Todd the archer Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 11-Jan-22




My post above should have said he was not in the top three

From: sir misalots
Date: 11-Jan-22




my favorite shape like to find a 4" supplier

From: Blue Duck
Date: 11-Jan-22




Theoretically they should be less effective at stabilizing because the max height of the feather is farther forward, ie creating a shorter lever arm. But good luck measuring that effect.

But we all know the most critical factor in feather profile, BY FAR, is how cool they look.

From: Nemophilist
Date: 11-Jan-22

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Here is a test I did on different size and shape fletching a couple years ago at 20 and 30 yards. I used a 3" Shield, a 5" Shield, a 5" Parabolic, and a 5 1/2" Banana. All grouped together out to 20 and 30 yards for me. Past 30 yards I'm sure large fletching would affect the arrows trajectory, but I seen no problems for me out to 30 yards.

From: Maynard
Date: 11-Jan-22




5" long × 5/8" high.Banana Fletch took a shot this morning

And still no noise flew like a dart

From: Dan In MI
Date: 11-Jan-22




I played with fletching shapes years ago. I came away with this.

Above 1/2 ~ 5/8" you get more noise.

Shape, if kept below 5/8", makes no difference. All you need to figure out is how much surface area you need for your set up. At that point do the math to get your shape/size to match.

A low profile 3/8-1/2" dead flat about 4" long fletch is quiet, durable, and gives the same SQ inches of surface as a 5" high back shield.

If you use natural (wild) feathers it also keeps you feather under the oil line so your feathers are more naturally water repellant.

Much of this can be applied to helix/helical too. A dead straight feather will create rotation. The more helix you add the more drag you add.

Pick your poison.

From: JusPassin
Date: 11-Jan-22




If you tune your arrows properly, you will need very little fletch. The long and high fletch look cool, but are not really necessary.

From: Dan In MI
Date: 11-Jan-22

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Ugly, but functional.

From: Bob Rowlands
Date: 11-Jan-22




If you want to check out what banana fletch without going all in, take a couple shield fletched arrows and cut the fletch to banana profile.

From: RonG
Date: 11-Jan-22




George Stout said all there is to say about banana feathers.

I used to love the looks, but they weren't very efficient, but now I am into another design.

From: Nemophilist
Date: 11-Jan-22

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Roger Rothhaar used four fletch 5 1/2" Banana fletching on his arrows quite often.

From: Andy Man
Date: 11-Jan-22




Dan in MI

I have burnt a gazillion like that over the years

From: charlee
Date: 11-Jan-22




Hey, I really appreciate all the responses . Lots of points to ponder and other slight variables I hadn't thought of. I generally try to keep things simple and old school (probably why I just stick to woodies). But of course the only way we can truly know anything is to do it our selves. I think I'll try a half dozen banana and compare. I did not want to throw money away on a whim if the opinion consensus here was an affirmative negative, but it seems quite varied ( as usual I guess). Thanks again, always impressed with the depth of knowledge on this wall !

From: Wudstix Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 11-Jan-22




For the larger broadheads they good, but as mentioned a bit louder. I have gone to a Traditional cut, kinda modified shield.

From: Nemophilist
Date: 11-Jan-22

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If you wanted too here noisy, I made these arrows with 5" high profile parabolic fletching. I have to wear hearing protection when I shoot them. "LOL" These are by far the noisiest arrows I ever made in 34 years of making my own arrows.

From: Sasquatch73
Date: 11-Jan-22




Shape does not matter to me. Nothing longer than 4" though. Use parabolic 4" mostly.

From: aromakr Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member
Date: 11-Jan-22




Shape doesn't effect the arrow's noise, its the height of the feather that creates noise. and I disagree that a high fletch is needed for large broadheads, if they are mounted properly most any size fletching will stabilize them.

Bob

From: Nemophilist
Date: 11-Jan-22




"Shape doesn't effect the arrow's noise, its the height of the feather that creates noise."

X2 with aromakr. I agree 100%.

From: Dan In MI
Date: 11-Jan-22




Agreed. People blame shape, but that is because certain shapes len themselves to be higher/taller.

From: Supernaut
Date: 11-Jan-22




X3 on the height being the cause of noise and not the shape.

I reckon all those animals Nemophilist and Roger Rothhaar killed didn't think they were noisy either.

From: Darryl/Deni
Date: 11-Jan-22




I have used them for years and never had a problem with them for hunting or target use under thirty yards.

From: 1Longbow
Date: 13-Jan-22




Suedog , very nice looking arrows





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