spelling? comfort. This one has a much better sitting position than the steel frame Walmart types. I bought it for myself and my wife claimed it. She just kicks a bit of dirt out of the way to level it on uneven ground.
The pac seats looks really comfortable and extremely well made. My concern is it seems a bit low and angled backwards to move around for and/or get up smoothly for a shot. That may not be true but it always kept me from pulling the trigger on one. I may be totally wrong.
I have one from Walmart that cost about $15.00 when I bought it in the late 1990's. They work just fine for me and are light as you can get. Of course they are not trendy and don't have a cool name, and they are cheap, so they must not be any good.
can lean against a tree as angled or upright as you desire and do the same with the free standing mode I like it fairly straight and can lean foward taking the seat away from the tree to shoot espically to the off side my only add ons are a small haversack on back to carry stuff and a foam cussion for long sits
Personally I would buy one again if something happend to mine -but I think it will outlast me
Good review Craig and very accurate. I like the fact that it's very comfortable and that enables me to sit perfectly still for long periods of time, something that was missing from other seats I've tried. I also got it for a Christmas present so it didn't cost me one penny.
Thanks for the info. $250 is more then I thought it would be. I read some old reviews on them and when the reviewers said that they were a bit pricey I was expecting around $150. It really looks like it would fit the bill for me but that is a bit much for a seat. I'll have to think this one over for a bit.
I bought my PAC seat because I ran out of other options and it sounded like it would do what I needed. I sure didn't get it because I thought it was trendy or a brand name or something. I tried or looked at LOTS of seats and couldn't find one that was comfortable, quiet, light, inexpensive, adjustable, and easy to carry, so I eventually went with the seat that met 5 out of those 6 criterias. They are not cheap.
If I may...... yes, the Pacseat costs more than your run -of-the-mill- folding chair. But you get what you pay for. IF a cheap flip out chair is what you like,or all that you can afford, there's certainly nothing wrong with that.
David is a close friend of mine and I can tell you that he's not making a killing on his seats. They are not a cheap, flimsy, Chinese-built product. David builds his seats one at a time, in his shop, outside his home not very far from where I'm typing this. They take a considerable amount of time and money to produce. The seat is well built, comfortable, light, sturdy and every detail has been considered. The seat will easily outlast it's owner if not constantly abused. Most who have them love them- although they certainly aren't for everybody. I would advise anybody who has a complaint with the price to take a brief inventory of the rest of their hunting gear- that's what the pacseat is- a piece of hunting gear. If you really enjoy hunting from the ground ask yourself how much your comfort is worth..... For me the answer is WAY more than a cheap Wal- Mart flip out stool can offer. I don't use mine because it's trendy or has a cool name. I use mine because it is the absolute best thing that I can park my butt in when I'm on the ground. I use it a lot, and I kill things from it- a lot. It works well for me. I would encourage anybody to try one out and then and ONLY THEN give negative feedback if there is any.
I think Craig described the seat very accurately in his post above.
I've hunted with mine for several years. Like it so much I bought an extra last year. Price is relative. If you can't afford it, don't buy it. Comfort and mobility make the Waldrop Pac-Seat perfect for me. What does a good tree stand cost today? What about a pop-up blind. The Pac-Seat is my stand/blind. I find it interesting how many traditional archers preach buy U.S and then buy overseas, because of the higher price on U.S. made products. One other thing, just for the record I'm 73, 250+ lbs, on a fixed income, hunt on public land, and hike 1 to 1.5 miles from my truck every time I go out to hunt, which is usually 2 to 3 days per week minimum, from October through December, God willing. Hope everyone has a great and safe 2019.
I like it. Your paying quality, convenience and comfort. If you are a dedicated ground hunter I don’t think price of the Waldrop is too much for a comfortable well built chair. The millennium chairs are also comfortable but you need the right tree. Most of the less expensive chairs I’ve owned seem to get noisy at some point.
Of course use what works best for you and your budget. Not sure why someone always seems to get offended when someone brings up a piece of gear they view as expensive.
Gregg, The Millennium roughly costs $100, is useless without a tree and comes with a sling strap to carry it .........that you will be looking for something to replace it with to carry it a little better.
Weight is about the same, no backpack feature, and like I said.....you need a tree.
Probably a good seat, but does not even compare to what your original post was about.
Waldrup packseat is worth every penny. So light I strap it on top of my elk ruck and haul it up the mountain everyday to sit waterholes. SO strong I could use it to haul out the elk as a perfectly fine freighter pack. So comfortable all day watching water is comfy, and only issue is not falling asleep.
I've owned a Millenium tree seat, and it's a fine seat. You must however have the proper tree for attachment. Some are too big around, some are leaning too much, so it is sometimes difficult to attach. I own a Huntmore seat, and it too is a fine seat. It's very comfortable, but takes some time setting up,,,it also weighs 9 lbs, and has no back straps for carrying it. It now sits in my basement. I bought a Waldrop PacSeat about 3 yrs ago, and love it. It weighs 3.5lbs to 4lbs, is very comfortable, and is off your back and ready to hunt in about 30 seconds.
Just for clarity, want to remind folks that Millinium makes the tree seat which does require a tree and they also make what they call a blind chair. The chair is also portable, sits on an adjustable legged tripod and is a pleasure to hunt out of. I like to set up the blind chair back in the underbrush and try not to fall asleep it is so comfortable.
Ya'll should have bought the Pac seat years ago when the price was a lot cheaper. I've bungee cord my Double Bull blind to mine during turkey season. Many of my son's baseball games I watched sitting in my Pac seat.
I have broken my back twice, and have seriously damaged discs. So treestands are being phased out of my hunting plans. I am replacing them with blinds. I prefer hunting from a tree, but it is getting riskier.
Stools are no good for me because I must have a back rest. I have a folding chair with a backrest. It was inexpensive at a sport show. It has been great because of the backrest.
So I am looking for a comfortable seat that is suitable for hunting, shooting, and actually killing game.
I looked at the Millenium seat, but there is nowhere to try one. The Waldrop seat is interesting. It would be nice to combine the seat, daypack, and blind.
Any more info would be helpful. Thank you my friends.
I'll be spending more time on the ground in the future and reviewed and looked at all the seats and such out there. I ordered a Waldrop. David hand makes these and there are well made. I got about 9 out of 10 features I wanted and sent him a check. Besides, he is a Georgia boy. :) Mine should be ready in time for my annual week in SC on the Savannah River chasing deer and hogs the week after Thanksgiving.
I just bought a used one off a guy on facebook. I received it last night in the mail. It is very comfortable. I put a set of alice pack straps on it and removed the waistband. I'll be sitting in it the next couple of days!
Just got mine Monday. Quite comfortable. May become my favorite nap... er hunting seat. Took an old Catquiver II, removed the straps and secured it (in 4 places)to the frame of the pack seat. Use the pouches to hold drinks, bow stringer, extra string, multiple knives as well as extra blunt arrows for pesky inquisitive squirrels after I've shot the two blunts in my bow quiver... Quiet on the back too. Hope to try it out Friday morning!!
This site is awesome. Never thought about even searching for a good comfortable seat. I've always just improvised, but was never really comfortable during long sits in the woods. I'm certain many of us have missed shot opportunities because we weren't comfortable, moved around too much trying to get more comfortable, and didn't sit long enough in one place. As a professional wildlife photographer I can see how this seat will be beneficial to me when not bowhunting. Thanks!
Hunted out of mine all season , i love the concept and the chair has a ton of good features however i will say because seat is narrow my extra large butt did get a little uncomfortable in it. I bought a pad and they kinda helped. I called David and we talked for hours. He is a super nice guy and did his best to help me fond a solution. As i told David my issue with chair was a personal problem and not the chairs fault. I will continue to use it because i do love its pros. One being that it is compact, lite and another is the ability to just lean it against a tree. I was unsure if it would work but became my favorite way to use it.
Its a expensive chair and even though i am disappointed it wasn’t comfortable for me. I am glad i bought it.
My millennium M-300 is comfortable but also very restrictive when compared to the pack seat.
Its a true statement when they say you can’t have your cake and eat it too.
"Thanks for the info. $250 is more then I thought it would be. I read some old reviews on them and when the reviewers said that they were a bit pricey I was expecting around $150. It really looks like it would fit the bill for me but that is a bit much for a seat. I'll have to think this one over for a bit."
Gregg, I hope you got one buddy, the price is starting to rise.
Dave will custom a seat to the height you want. He also carries a quartering bag that attaches to the back. Works great for extra clothing. Doesn't have to be detached even when the seat is leaning against the tree. Mind carries easy and I love the option of the seat free standing in a deadfall for example or leaning against the tree. Seat leans with you if necessary. Dave is a great man to deal with. Can't go wrong with the seat.
Well Im a little reluctant to post this but doing so to reinforce some of what Riverwolf has posted. I like to tinker with making my own gear as many here do so I thought what the heck Ill make my own version of the Pacseat. Unable to make a small radius bend on either aluminum tubing (which was extremely expensive) or steel electrical conduit, I wound up using 3/4" and 1/2" copper tubing for the frame and I soldered the joints using various plumbing connectors. I purchased nylon strapping and heavy fabric for the seat material and straps and had a commercial sail maker sew the seat material. All told had about $120 in materials and 6-8hours in construction and finishing of the seat. My version is entirely functional and weighs about 6.5#, so heavier than the original. My point is that Mr. Waldrop is earning his money. Obviously with practice construction time could be reduced but still this wound up being a project. So the $250-300 Mr Waldrop is asking for his PacSeat is understandable. Just my opinion
The perfect tool for a serious ground hunter.. There is no fat on this design.. David is a pleasure to talk to and work with, A day pack fits perfectly, the mesh material creates a breathable gap between your back and the pack, so there is zero needless sweating.. Got mine last spring, for a fella with back, spine issues, I was able to sit pretty much motionless for much longer than usual.. Love the pacseat..