As the title says.

My design for the:

"New Hunting Bow Sight"

Rick

As you can see in the design, the mount to the riser allows for adjustable orientation to the riser, which also allows for some initial elevation set.

Aperture is a view threw cross hair/peep.

Fully adjustable for elevation & windage.

If I put it on a bow that has no mounting bolts in the riser I'll just use double sided tape. :-)

All except the bolts are made from kydex.

They whole thing weighs hardly anything. I didn't weigh it, mut figure around 250 grains.

Rick

I love the adjustments & use it or not.You could drop bombs with that aperture. >>>-----> Ken

I like that design.

I dig it! Now if you made the cross piece to which the sight is attached a little wider with similar radiused grooves to the body of the sight, then you could use it with a canted bow.

I played with the prototype some yesterday, and was able to easily zero the peep for 15 yards, and still maintain fletching clearance at the bottom.

My fluflu arrow brush the bottom of the aperture a little, but nothing hard enough to be concerned about.

Rick

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My original design has brackets for canting, and I may be able to carry some of that over to this new design.

Rick

Gonna get real serious about night time hog hunting, and figured I might need a little help.

Haven't decided on whether or not I want to make the aperture glow in the dark, but probably will. I want to be able to use as little artificial light as I can get by with.

Rick

I like it as well. I've always liked crosshairs. Hmmm. 3-D printed or cut out of kydex material?

That is soooo not traditional. (sorry, couldn't help it)

Looks good!

Looks great, a lot better than the sights people were mounting on their bows since the 50's or earlier.

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HAA !

I'm guessing the longbow/recurve draw lock design I am working on will be totally TaBoo. :-D

Rick

I'm in..... :)

Nice job!

I am not a gap shooter, but I wonder if such a sight could be used as a sort of rear sight by a gap shooter.

Always intrigued by your various tinkerings

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You may be on to something there. I may try it later just to see.

Rick

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Nope. Won't work, but it may work as originally intended as well mounted on the rear (maybe better) as it does mounted out front.

Rick

I should have thought about it a bit more, and I would have known it wouldn't work.

A peep mounted to the string is in a fix position related to your anchor, therefore when you raise/lower your bow the gap between the peep and the pin (in this case the arrow tip) changes.

A peep mounted to the bow will raise/lower with the bow same as the arrow, so the gap always stays the same, and that's why it won't/don't work.

Rick

Yep. I too should have realized that.

Kirk, I do like it better mounted on the belly side though. I seem to be able to settle better with it mounted that position.

Rick

You don't need that sight Rick. I saw you shoot at 80 yards. It will work good out of that new blind you have hunting at night however. Set up that new video camera and record it so we can see it in action. Now it is time you design a small light for the bow. One of those green lights the good ole boys here in WV use on their crossbows for night hunting.

Looks functional. Good job. Ain’t no shame in aiming.

Rick has already designed the so-called "Lard Laser" for night hunting pigs; I remember his thread from back around 2018 on the subject.

Looks interesting, what ever blows your hair back. Congrats for a cool design.

Bow Light.

3000 lumen with green lens.

Rick

It's also adjustable focus from a tight spot to a wide flood.

Only drawback is you have to press the button to turn on/off, but I manage.

Rick

I dunno, Rick — do you think you’ve tested that mounting system thoroughly enough??

And yes, that sight is an interesting proposition. At what distance do you find yourself running out of room in your sight window? And what’s the range for the bottom of the reticle?? Not being a gap-at-the-riser guy, I have no clue how those work out….

CL, that light mount has been used with two different lights, and a laser pointer, so it's seen some wear & tear.

When the sight is mounted on the belly (like I have it now), and I zero the center peep at 15 yards the bottom of the aperture gives me around 35, but I haven't shot with it enough to know the exact. When mounted on the back I get around 40 at the bottom.

It's a hunting sight to use within normal hunting distances, which for me is point blank out to 25.

For sure it isn't designed for shooting 70 meters with. :-)

Rick

Nope! For that. I’d need to get my hands on one of those old sights which had a vertical center wire and each “pin” created a set of crosshairs for each distance; I don’t need the horizontals, just the verticals….

Can’t recall what that sight was called… drat.

Hows this ?

4 apertures.

Straight, 10 degree, 20 degree, and 30 degree.

It has the straight aperture mounted in the following pictures.

Fully universal.

Works left/right or belly/back simply by flipping parts.

Rick

Oh, and pay no attention to that hole in the riser bracket. It serves no purpose.

I built this from scrap kydex, and the only piece big enough had that hole.

Rick

I love it. Can't wait to give it a try. Joel

OK, I’m clueless…. How do you inform your decision regarding 10/20/30?

They don’t look exactly the same, but I am learning it to trust my eyes as to fine detail unless I have quite good resolution….

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The mounting holes in the apertures are such that when mounted they give them the cant angles listed. Each aperture is stamped with the angle it gives.

Rick

Headed my way. Very interesting. Rooty

I'm done with the design.

Fully adjustable for windage, elevation, and cant of bow.

Can be mounted belly/back, or left/right simply by flipping parts.

Not sure of the degree of cant, but it's a lot.

Rick

Just measured that degree of cant.

30 degrees.

Rick

So it’s dialed in for a 1:00 cant. Slick!

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It'll go a little farther than that. :-)

The only problem with going with a tremendous amount of cant is it makes it where (depending on necessary windage adjustment) the aperture might start to bury behind the riser in order to achieve necessary windage.

It's still usable that way, but you might wind up without a full aperture to look through.

Rick

I like that design. Well thought out.

I have an old Sight Master sight which I used on a compound bow. It has a round see thru aperture with crosshairs. Even a lighted sight post if you want one. It has a bracket for range adjustments from ten to sixty yards. This sight kind of reminds of the Sight Master.

Gotter done, and patent filed. :-)

Rick

I believe this is enough cant adjustment. :-)

Rick

Interesting for sure.

my grandson made a sight for this old recurve it does good at 15 yds. with a little tweaking i think it would work very well.

I made a bunch of these when I still had access to a tig welder. 1/2 dia SS tube and some SS all tread rod. Works very well, your eye centers the target in the ring. You adjusted it just like a pin.

John, that's a nice aperture.

Dan Wordan made sights like that. Not sure if he still does.

I am making mine entirely out of kydex in order to keep them light weight, which makes them light enough to mount with double sided tape if necessary.

Rick

Gerald, your grandson done good. :-)

Rick

Rick, is that a EXE Scream riser?

Thanks Rick, I never liked the way a pin coming in from the side( especially a 3 pin sight) blocked the view of the target. That’s why I made the ring sight. Then I came across this cheap Allen single pin sight and that’s what I use mostly now.

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It's a John's Custom Archery JCO 1.0 original.

There are a lot of copies of it out there.

Rick

Rick -

We're all wired differently, but I think it's a pretty bad design for any "sight". It's just too big and can easily obscure parts of the animal and/or surroundings. Compare it to the SRF sight, which is just a big hole, tapered to allow range estimation or how thin the cross hairs are on a rifle scope.

New target shooters make the same mistake, a lot of them use too small an aperture or a too big a pin that blocks what they are aiming at. If nothing else, it just adds to the workload needlessly (and detrimentally).

Anyway, that's just been my experience with sights ;^).

Viper out.

Tony, I think it might pleasantly surprise you. :-)

Rick

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Looks really good Rick, and like any tool,(golf club), if it's not pleasing to the eye, most won't even think about trying it! Yours looks awesome! I would definitely try it! Wyatt

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