Semi Bare Shafts

Makes them weigh the same as the fletched.

I don't like guess work.

Yes, I'm addicted to those little things. :-)

Rick

Rick what did you wrap them with?

Oh…. I thought this was gonna be an expose on high FOC carbons….

ROFL

Frank, it's nylon marker/plum string.

I wanted to concentrate the weight right where the fletching goes, and be the same weight as the fletching.

I've done the same thing with making tape, but I like this better.

Rick

I have used electrical tape.

I use blue masking tape

I use blue masking tape

I trim feathers down to about and 1/8" to turn with broadheads...

Rick and your point being???

What point Jim ?

I'm just sharing what I do when bare shaft tuning.

I used to get the weight with tape, but did it different with the string this time.

The reason I decided to use the string is, it allows me to concentrate the weight right in the fletching area without creating a real thick cylinder there. They are the same in every way as the fletched shafts, except no fletching.

With the tape I had to space it out longer than the wrap (to 8") to keep it thin/er.

That's it.

Rick

Rick, Ok so you’re just duplicating the weight of the fletch.

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Yep.

Jim, I also should have said - I'm not only duplicating the weight, but also the exact position of the fletching weight.

Rick

Rick, what difference does this method show over a bare shaft?

@Phil, a true bareshaft doesn't take into consideration the weight, and placement of the weight, of the fletchings. This method does.

I understand that. I guess I didn’t ask correctly.

Rick, what difference in the results do you see when you add the weight vs. a bare shaft.

My feathers add between 9 and 10 grains to the back of the shaft. It obviously shows a difference on Stu’s calculator but, when I’ve tried similar weighting, I haven’t seen a noticeable difference in real life. But I’m not as consistent a shot as you and I’m curious what difference you see.

Pls show some arrows in a target so I can get an idea???

My OCD meter is starting to twitch, lol! I was too ashamed to tell anybody when I switched out all my arrows to the same nock so the string "pluck" on release would be the same. I give string makers the diameter of my strings measured with digital Vernier calipers as well as the nocks I use so they know the gap. I know, seems pretty "anal" when I used to shoot a lot of "skinnies" that had to be doubled served to get there. There are many more variable I didn't stress over. Not to mention the string and serving material differed from maker to maker, but I relied heavily on one so as to not lose sleep over that. See....it's contagious! Where's the Prozac?

[[[ "Rick, what difference in the results do you see when you add the weight vs. a bare shaft." ]]]

Phil, bare shafting the normal way, when proper tune is achieved, the bare shafts will always group outside of the tuned fletched shafts to the weak side.

Or, if you tune to the bare shafts, and leave it there, the fletched shafts will group to the stiff side.

That's because the fletched shafts will always shoot stiffer than the bare shafts due to the added tail weight of the fletching, AND the FOC also is different/less on the bare.

In the past before starting to do it this way, I would intentionally tune my bare shafts to shoot/group to the weak side, then shoot the fletched to confirm the stiffness was putting them in the right spot.

But, that amount would be different from one bow/arrow combination to another, so you had to just kind of guess at how much weak side impact the bare shafts needed to be.

Doing it with the added weight, and position of that weight on the tail makes the bare shafts exactly the same (minus the steering of the fletching) as the fletched shafts. So, when you tune with these there is no guess work. You tune them to shoot where they are supposed to, and after that the fletched shafts follow suit, and they will all group together.

No more guessing at it.

Bottom line is - it just makes bare shaft tuning easier, and in my opinion more accurate.

Long winded I know, but trying my best for it to make sense.

Rick

Keep in mind also, that I shoot vanes, so my tail weight is a considerable amount more than it is for those using feathers.

Rick

That Rick...the mind is always coming up with ideas ....I think it's great.

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