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Longbow advice

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2003HARLEY 30-Sep-24
Montana 30-Sep-24
Scoop 30-Sep-24
Silent But Deadly 30-Sep-24
Jon Stewart 30-Sep-24
GUTPILEPA 30-Sep-24
RonP 30-Sep-24
Buckdancer 30-Sep-24
EZ Archer 30-Sep-24
kaw369 30-Sep-24
fdp 30-Sep-24
Andy Man 30-Sep-24
2003HARLEY 30-Sep-24
dnovo 30-Sep-24
CritterGitter62 30-Sep-24
Lastmohecken 30-Sep-24
LightPaw 30-Sep-24
Orion 30-Sep-24
Corax_latrans 30-Sep-24
Phil Magistro 30-Sep-24
Brockett 30-Sep-24
2003HARLEY 30-Sep-24
Lastmohecken 01-Oct-24
Wudstix 01-Oct-24
David McLendon 01-Oct-24
Dry Bones 01-Oct-24
From: 2003HARLEY
Date: 30-Sep-24




Greetings...I have 3 questions for you long bow folks,,,If you don't have the time to answer them, no worries...1) Do any of you use elevated rests on your long bows ?? 2) If you cant your longbows, how far ?? 3) Do you grip your long bows firm or relaxed ? Thank you for your advice.....Be safe.....Harley...

From: Montana
Date: 30-Sep-24




1. No. 2. About 30 degrees or so 3. Not real firm but not completely relaxed

From: Scoop Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 30-Sep-24




Never shot a longbow with an elevated rest. I cant only very slightly and often none at all, although I canted about that 30 percent when I first started with a longbow many years ago. My grip may best be described as about like a firm handshake.

From: Silent But Deadly
Date: 30-Sep-24




I'm shooting similar to Montana,only my Can't is determined by my shooting position, meaning if I'm closer to the ground on one knee I'll can't more to accommodate...

From: Jon Stewart
Date: 30-Sep-24




1. No 2. no 3. firm like all the bows I use.

From: GUTPILEPA
Date: 30-Sep-24

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I shoot off a rest on my ILF with Longbow limbs a flipper no I don’t can’t and I have a relax grip you can see the flipper rest on my riser

From: RonP
Date: 30-Sep-24




1. no elevated rest. 2. i cant the bow, guessing 15-30 degrees. 3. i grip all bows firm, fingers wrapped around and with the heel of my hand down and in full contact.

From: Buckdancer
Date: 30-Sep-24




No comment

From: EZ Archer
Date: 30-Sep-24




1- no, 2- yes but how much depends on the bow, 3- firm enough but relaxed enough too

From: kaw369
Date: 30-Sep-24




!) No 2) slight cant... 30 degrees 3) firm grip (choak)

From: fdp
Date: 30-Sep-24




Longbow advice.......don't worry about how anyone else shoots their bow, shoot the way that is comfortable and works for you. Decide on a style/method, stick to it, and ignore all the distractions and noise and perfect your method.

From: Andy Man
Date: 30-Sep-24




go to this site all the longbow information you will need/want

https://sunsethilllongbowsandleather.blogspot.com

From: 2003HARLEY
Date: 30-Sep-24




Thank you my friends for your kindness in taking the time to give me advice...Be safe & shoot straight...Harley

From: dnovo Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 30-Sep-24




No, I cant slightly maybe 15-20 degrees, firm grip but not a death grip.

From: CritterGitter62
Date: 30-Sep-24




Hard to answer since longbows come in very many flavors. My personal favorite is the Black Hunter elite, the grip is like a recurve (well because it is a recurve too) the rest is radiused so I don't need to elevate it anymore than that. Grip is always neutral no matter what bow I shoot, but I think my grip is more affected by my back tension. The greater effort to hold the pressure of the bow with my back muscles, eliminates the need to death grip the bow.

From: Lastmohecken
Date: 30-Sep-24




Hill Tembo, currently, 54#, I normally cant my bow 30 to 45 degrees from vertical, sometimes I will go all of the way to 90 degrees, which is flat of course. If I shoot straight up and down vertical, I tend to shoot worse.

I pull my bow with a sort of open grip, then tighten my grip as I get ready to shoot. If I start shooting poorly, I usually realize I started shooting with a looser grip and tighten up, then groups will usually tighten up. So, I prefer a fairly tight firm grip.

From: LightPaw
Date: 30-Sep-24




no, no, relaxed hand

From: Orion Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 30-Sep-24




There's no agreement as to what a longbow is nowadays. A lot of people call extreme reflex/deflex hybrids longbows. On those, elevated rests would work just fine. They won't work very well on a Hill style ASL. Amount of cant is a personal thing, as is strength of the grip.

To answer your question, I shoot an ASL off the shelf and cant from 10 to 90 degrees depending on the shot with a snug, but not terribly tight grip.

From: Corax_latrans
Date: 30-Sep-24




No different from my recurves, but….

1) Nope

2) Far enough to get my nock plumb below my dominant eyeball, but plumb vertical works too, if I use string blur technique; I just prefer the extra DL that I get when I use an anchor which needs a little cant

3) Relaxed, because firm causes me torque problems

From: Phil Magistro
Date: 30-Sep-24




What Orion said. R/D longbows are typically built like a recurve with different limbs. You scan, and probably should, shoot them with the same high wrist you would shoot a recurve with. Depending on the riser, especially if it’s a metal riser, an elevated wrist would be a plus.

A true Hill style bow (ASL) is built differently and should be shot with the pad beneath your thumb in contact with the riser. Otherwise you’ll feel the bow bounce as the limb timing will be impacted. Your grip should be firm but not tight. It may be best to hold your bottom two fingers, ring and pinky, a touch tighter than the top two.

You can can either style to suit your form but the ASL seems to work best with a can’t.

From: Brockett
Date: 30-Sep-24




No rest. I do cant the bow, like a few stated before around 30 degrees. I have a firm grip, but I'm not trying to crush the bow.

From: 2003HARLEY
Date: 30-Sep-24




Thank you all again !!!! Harley

From: Lastmohecken
Date: 01-Oct-24




We have been discussing two different bows here, a longbow with recurve style riser is a totally different animal than a Hill style longbow, and different as night and day as far as how to grip them.

From: Wudstix Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 01-Oct-24




What Montana said.

From: David McLendon
Date: 01-Oct-24




No rest, no cant, relaxed grip.

From: Dry Bones
Date: 01-Oct-24




1. No Rest, shoot off the shef 2. 30'ish degree cant, but can be determined by what the vegetation around me is 3. Secure but not tight. THIS is a big issue with guys I see shooting bows today. They want to crush the grip. I have a very firm handshake, I hold my bow with less intensity. IF... IF people would learn to grip a bow, I don't think so many would want such a dinky little grip section like so many bows are made now. Those with training wheels and those without.

For me a bow with a full-paw grip is most desireable. I like to feel the bow in my hand, not a twig behind my thumb. But again, I don't feel the need to crush a grip either.

-Bones





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