Traditional Archery Discussions on the Leatherwall


Frankenbow risers

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TradToTheBone 27-Jan-24
iowacedarshooter 27-Jan-24
selstickbow 27-Jan-24
Don T. Lewis 27-Jan-24
Don T. Lewis 27-Jan-24
selstickbow 27-Jan-24
Wilburness 27-Jan-24
Wilburness 27-Jan-24
Longcruise 27-Jan-24
the Black Spot 27-Jan-24
fryguy 27-Jan-24
Jay B 27-Jan-24
1buckurout 27-Jan-24
Don T. Lewis 27-Jan-24
ksbowhunter 27-Jan-24
iowacedarshooter 27-Jan-24
Don T. Lewis 27-Jan-24
Don T. Lewis 27-Jan-24
Don T. Lewis 27-Jan-24
Don T. Lewis 27-Jan-24
ksbowhunter 27-Jan-24
Don T. Lewis 27-Jan-24
TradToTheBone 27-Jan-24
Lastmohecken 27-Jan-24
Lastmohecken 27-Jan-24
the Black Spot 28-Jan-24
ksbowhunter 28-Jan-24
mahantango 28-Jan-24
mahantango 28-Jan-24
Don T. Lewis 28-Jan-24
Don T. Lewis 28-Jan-24
the Black Spot 28-Jan-24
Don T. Lewis 29-Jan-24
Don T. Lewis 29-Jan-24
BigStriper1 30-Jan-24
selstickbow 30-Jan-24
BigStriper1 30-Jan-24
mahantango 31-Jan-24
doubleeagle 31-Jan-24
Nemophilist 31-Jan-24
BigStriper1 31-Jan-24
HuumanCreed 31-Jan-24
mahantango 31-Jan-24
Lastmohecken 01-Feb-24
mahantango 01-Feb-24
Fritz 01-Feb-24
rock74 01-Feb-24
rock74 01-Feb-24
Fritz 01-Feb-24
selstickbow 01-Feb-24
BATMAN 02-Feb-24
charley 11-Feb-24
charley 11-Feb-24
charley 11-Feb-24
charley 11-Feb-24
charley 11-Feb-24
charley 11-Feb-24
Randog 11-Feb-24
2 bears 11-Feb-24
GUTPILEPA 11-Feb-24
Jason316 11-Feb-24
mahantango 12-Feb-24
Fritz 12-Feb-24
rock74 12-Feb-24
Wildhog 12-Feb-24
Jason316 13-Feb-24
Fritz 17-Feb-24
Grizzly 17-Feb-24
1buckurout 17-Feb-24
From: TradToTheBone
Date: 27-Jan-24




Has anyone complied a list of compound risers that make good Frankenbows when paired with Sage limbs?

From: iowacedarshooter
Date: 27-Jan-24

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mde this one with an old pse "pacer" riser and sage limbs. worked very well indeed! please exscuse my old work bench! lol

From: selstickbow
Date: 27-Jan-24




Gary I think I have one just like yours coming in the mail, now. My unofficial list is like anyone else's maybe. Bear Black Bear / Jennings Lightning 21" Bear Whitetail Hunter II 21" Bear mini mag with bolts 17" Hoyt Rambo/Spectra/RaIDER 21" pROLINE 21" Hoyt TD-2-TD-3 H20 & H24 Hoyt TD the H16 version Hoyt 19" tracker Pearson Equalizer 18" Hoyt ProVantage 24" I've had all of these, some of them several different times...... I've had others not so easily warfed and some not turning out so well.

From: Don T. Lewis
Date: 27-Jan-24




Add Darton to that list and XI Indian they both make good Franken bows too.

From: Don T. Lewis
Date: 27-Jan-24




I’d like to see someone try an old Browning deluxe Nomad round wheel compound with the wood riser. I bet that would make a nice one.

From: selstickbow
Date: 27-Jan-24




yeh true I had an SL50 Darton, it was pretty good.

From: Wilburness
Date: 27-Jan-24

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Me too, but I need help.

From: Wilburness
Date: 27-Jan-24




By help I mean someone to do it for me.

From: Longcruise
Date: 27-Jan-24




I have a bunch of roughed out risers that could be fun to play with BUT they are lefties. If anyone is interested I'll hunt them up.

From: the Black Spot
Date: 27-Jan-24




Indian stalker. Pearson renegade.

From: fryguy
Date: 27-Jan-24




Wish I could tell you the model but can't remember. Old PSE riser

From: Jay B
Date: 27-Jan-24




IowaCedar, that thing looks aggressive as hell! I like it!

From: 1buckurout
Date: 27-Jan-24




I made one out of a Pearson XE Classic. It turned out great. I made it to accept ILF limbs with an alignment pin just like Hoyt did with the Dorado and GameMaster II.

From: Don T. Lewis
Date: 27-Jan-24

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Hoyt ILF limbs on a Bear minute man riser. Frankenbow? I don’t know. But with a belt sander and about an hours time. You can sand down the limb butts to fit the limb pockets on the minuteman riser. Shoots like a Minuteman on steroids!;)

From: ksbowhunter Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 27-Jan-24




Can anyone tell me the width for sage or blackhunter limbs?

From: iowacedarshooter
Date: 27-Jan-24

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the pse riser bow shoots a purty good group at 17 yards.

From: Don T. Lewis
Date: 27-Jan-24




Width of Sage limb butts is 1 5/8” fits nicely into many risers. Bolt them down put a string on. Ready to shoot. Pretty simple really.

From: Don T. Lewis
Date: 27-Jan-24




Width of Sage limb butts is 1 5/8” fits nicely into many risers. Bolt them down put a string on. Ready to shoot. Pretty simple really.

From: Don T. Lewis
Date: 27-Jan-24




Width of Sage limb butts is 1 5/8” fits nicely into many risers. Bolt them down put a string on. Ready to shoot. Pretty simple really.

From: Don T. Lewis
Date: 27-Jan-24




Width of Sage limb butts is 1 5/8” fits nicely into many risers. Bolt them down put a string on. Ready to shoot. Pretty simple really.

From: ksbowhunter Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 27-Jan-24




Thank you don, sounds like they would fit great. I’m going to wait for dimensions on blackhunter limbs as I’d really prefer to try some longbow limbs but if not the sages would work I believe for riser I have. Riser is an old Hoyt huntmaster wood recurve riser.

From: Don T. Lewis
Date: 27-Jan-24




Your welcome. The Sage limbs shoot surprisingly well. As well as the Black Hunter limbs. Both great choices.

From: TradToTheBone
Date: 27-Jan-24




Thanks to everyone that have posted information. I have an Xi and a Darton SL-50 so I’ll have some choices. My Galaxy Sage is on loan to a new archer so it may be awhile.

From: Lastmohecken
Date: 27-Jan-24

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Most people say that the Bear Black Bear is about the best. I have only built two Frankin bows, the first was a Darton, and the second recently, is a Bear Panther, which is the same as the Black Bear.

The Darton was more of a challenge, but it turned out to be a fine shooting bow. The Bear was a lot less work and easier to do and is probably the best of the two. Both shoot really good.

I finally put the finishing touches to the Bear, today, with a new Stilldub B55 string, and string silencers, It's really tuned pretty good at this point, and seems to be really quite, now. I may end up raising brace height a little, from its current 7-3/4", but I don't know, it pretty good right where it is.

From: Lastmohecken
Date: 27-Jan-24




I might add, that I have read other's comments on the Black Bear grip as being really good. And I must say that I agree 100%, the grip is very good, and fits me really well. I will probably never do it, as I have two Black Widows, already, but the thought crossed my mind, to have a BW riser built, to copy the Black Bear grip.

But, I doubt I ever go that far.

From: the Black Spot
Date: 28-Jan-24




I got 1 -9/16” on my BH longbow limbs

From: ksbowhunter Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 28-Jan-24




the Black Spot, thank you! Those may just work also! I will start looking for limbs only!

From: mahantango
Date: 28-Jan-24

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I’m working on a Pro-Line right now. The limb pockets are tapered like an ILF, only wider. A template made from the original compound limbs, some careful layout, and a few minutes on the big stationary belt sander and the Sage limbs fit well. Have to put it together, find a rest - maybe a springy? - and make a string. I’ll post some pics when done.

From: mahantango
Date: 28-Jan-24

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Reprofiled Sage limbs on Pro-Line riser.

From: Don T. Lewis
Date: 28-Jan-24

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I got these limbs in trade on the Wall. I’d like to try this with a set of Samick Sage limbs too. Because it is very hard to find a set of original Minuteman limbs these days.

From: Don T. Lewis
Date: 28-Jan-24




I just pulled up the old how to thread on this for those interested in maybe trying their hand at it.

From: the Black Spot
Date: 28-Jan-24




Outstanding,Don!!

From: Don T. Lewis
Date: 29-Jan-24




Thanks Tony.

From: Don T. Lewis
Date: 29-Jan-24




Thanks Tony.

From: BigStriper1
Date: 30-Jan-24




If anybody comes across a Left handed Bear Black Bear riser I sure could use one being’s I had to switch to left handed because of my detached retina.

From: selstickbow
Date: 30-Jan-24




mshockey just sold one on Tradtalk a couple of days ago. I'll tell him you are looking.

From: BigStriper1
Date: 30-Jan-24




I know ,I haven’t been on that site in a looong time but just happened to go there today and saw that he had just sold one a couple of days ago. I well.

From: mahantango
Date: 31-Jan-24

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Here are the Sage limbs on the Pro-Line riser. The shallow pad angles give it a little extra pre-load so the 40# limbs come in at about 45#@28. Pretty quick.

From: doubleeagle
Date: 31-Jan-24

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As mentioned above, the only one I did was a Bear Black Bear I picked up for $10. NO mods to the riser or limbs, just take off the compound limbs and put on the sage limbs. Too easy.

From: Nemophilist
Date: 31-Jan-24

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I've only built one Frankenbow (Bear Black Bear Riser with Samick Sage Limbs) so far, but I do have another Bear Black Bear Riser and Samick Sage Limbs for a future build when I find the time. The Frankenbow I built shoots really nice. So nice I bow hunted with it in 2021.

From: BigStriper1
Date: 31-Jan-24




Does anybody know what Samick Sage limbs you would need to make a 64” 38-40 lbs bow with the Black Bear riser. Kurt

From: HuumanCreed
Date: 31-Jan-24

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Ben Pearson Rogue make a great riser for ILF longbow.

From: mahantango
Date: 31-Jan-24




Kurt, I think the Samick Journey limbs will make a 64” bow. Also Southwest Archery has longer limbs that are interchangeable with the Sage.

From: Lastmohecken
Date: 01-Feb-24




The regular Samick Sage limbs will be 62" on a Black Bear, or at least they were, on my Bear Panther, which I believe is the same riser as the actual Black Bear. And the limbs say 62" on the bottom limb. So, that pretty much tells me that the Samick Sage riser is the same length as the Black Bear.

From: mahantango
Date: 01-Feb-24

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And shoots way better than it should for what it is. First twenty yard group.

From: Fritz
Date: 01-Feb-24




Would anyone know the length of Black Hunter limbs versus the Sage limbs or are they the same length,

From: rock74
Date: 01-Feb-24




Fritz 60" Black Hunter limbs are 2" longer ea than Sage limbs so would make a 4" longer bow.

From: rock74
Date: 01-Feb-24




Some of the Golden Eagle risers have the same geometry as the BB, I did one years ago on a 80's Falcon Turbo riser that worked out the 90's risers would work but they have open pockets at the butt end and the riser / grips are bulkier.

From: Fritz
Date: 01-Feb-24




Thanks Rock !!

From: selstickbow
Date: 01-Feb-24

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Hoyt Spectra makes a good WARF or Frankenbow......

From: BATMAN
Date: 02-Feb-24




FANTASTIC TALENT on taking some bits and pieces and "WALLAH!" Get some GREAT ARROW FLINGERS!

From: charley
Date: 11-Feb-24




Built a a bunch, first time this way. I salvaged the compound rockers and epoxied them to the recurve limbs. Then I took the limbs to the band saw and turned the limb bolt holes into slots. They slide into place, giving room to move on the rockers. So it has draw weight and tiller adjustment. The rockers also square the limbs laterally so no shims. Feels like it gained around 3lbs. Very quiet.

From: charley
Date: 11-Feb-24

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From: charley
Date: 11-Feb-24




From: charley
Date: 11-Feb-24

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From: charley
Date: 11-Feb-24

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From: charley
Date: 11-Feb-24




Band saw is not needed. Anyone can do this with a hand saw and a stick to stir epoxy. It's a big improvement over bolt down and swimming.

From: Randog
Date: 11-Feb-24




Anyone have 40ish sage limbs they don't want? I've got a black bear riser needs some.

From: 2 bears
Date: 11-Feb-24




amazing how many CP's being converted to one stringers. Love it. >>>----> Ken

From: GUTPILEPA
Date: 11-Feb-24




Nice Charley

From: Jason316
Date: 11-Feb-24

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Just did this one up over the weekend. Black Bear riser with Samick Sage limbs

From: mahantango
Date: 12-Feb-24




Great idea.

From: Fritz
Date: 12-Feb-24




So what size Sage limbs would you be wanting to put on a Black Bear to get around 45 lbs Thanks Fritz

From: rock74
Date: 12-Feb-24




Frits 50# limbs if I recall scaled 46# on my BB riser before I started shimming the limb pockets.

From: Wildhog
Date: 12-Feb-24




Charley- that is a great idea. I have made a bunch of these and I use the rockers, but I sure never thought of your idea. Brilliant

From: Jason316
Date: 13-Feb-24

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Fritz, my 30# Sage limbs came out to 32.8# at my 29.5" draw. That's using the half-ball alignment pads with the buttons ground down though that comes on a BB riser. If you don't have or get them as a complete bow, you'd need to shim your limbs up or there's a gap at the end of the riser when you tighten the limbs down.

From: Fritz
Date: 17-Feb-24




Ttt

From: Grizzly Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 17-Feb-24




Hi guys where did you get those half ball spacers? Also has anyone wharfed an old High country trophy hunter? I have one that I took apart and the limbs and limb pockets have the BB locators. Thanks in advance for your help.

From: 1buckurout
Date: 17-Feb-24

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Here's another I did the same way; to accept ILF limbs as a bolt- down. It's a Barnett Banshee riser. These things are addictive.





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