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Advantage of 11/32 vs. 23/64 shafts ?

Messages posted to thread:
Wudstix 15-Nov-23
George D. Stout 15-Nov-23
aromakr 15-Nov-23
fdp 15-Nov-23
Wudstix 15-Nov-23
B.T. 15-Nov-23
M60gunner 15-Nov-23
Wudstix 15-Nov-23
Tedd 16-Nov-23
Tedd 16-Nov-23
Bob Rowlands 16-Nov-23
fdp 16-Nov-23
Andy Man 16-Nov-23
fdp 16-Nov-23
Mike E 16-Nov-23
Bowlim 17-Nov-23
Bob Rowlands 17-Nov-23
S Quinton 17-Nov-23
Corax_latrans 17-Nov-23
Wudstix 20-Nov-23
From: Wudstix Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 15-Nov-23




Question: Is there any real advantage of 11/32 vs 23/64 shafts? I see there is a price difference.

From: George D. Stout
Date: 15-Nov-23




Not really as long as they are correct spine. I never saw a need for them myself since the 11/32 can cover even the highest bow weights. Many guys buy them and barrel taper them. Just another choice pretty much.

From: aromakr Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member
Date: 15-Nov-23




Other than being able to barrel taper them and a larger variety of 11/32 points. really not much difference as George said.

Bob

From: fdp
Date: 15-Nov-23




No......

From: Wudstix Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 15-Nov-23




And the 23/64 are @$1 per arrow cheaper.

From: B.T.
Date: 15-Nov-23




Because the 11/32 start as 23/64.. I don’t like the big fat arrows, even when barrel tapered.

From: M60gunner
Date: 15-Nov-23




Years ago in an interview one of the shaft makers commented about how the shaft is turned to 23/64 first. If they had imperfections then down to 11/32 and agin to 5/16 if not acceptable. But these days it seems like us old guys are the only ones using wood. And using our low weight draw bows we don’t need fat shafts. I used 23/64 from my 80# BW because I couldn’t get the 11/32 in 85#-90# spine. Actually went with 3/8” Ramin dowels for stump shooting. They spined about 100#’s.

From: Wudstix Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 15-Nov-23




I have some tapered 70-75# that shoot OK with 160 grain heads, 66/67# bow. Now have a bunch of 190-250 grain heads that will need 75-80-85# shafts, I'm sure.

From: Tedd Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member
Date: 16-Nov-23




Advantage? Yes, the 11/32 look nicer. I guess someone could figure out that 11/32 penetrate 2% deeper.

Otherwise 23/64 are good. If you are used to looking at carbons they might look fat.

M60, I'm 57, am I old?

From: Tedd Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member
Date: 16-Nov-23




Advantage? Yes, the 11/32 look nicer. I guess someone could figure out that 11/32 penetrate 2% deeper.

Otherwise 23/64 are good. If you are used to looking at carbons they might look fat.

M60, I'm 57, am I old?

From: Bob Rowlands
Date: 16-Nov-23




23/64ths looks more like a spear than an arrow to me. -1 I made many dozens at about that width when I first started doweling my own hickory shafts a couple decades ago. They were generally way too high in spine weight but that was on me. -1 And WAY heavy like 850 grains. That's too heavy for #55 recurve but I didn't know it at the time. The advantage is they don't break. +1

11/32, now that makes into a nice looking wood arrow, of reasonable spine for mid weight stickbows. +2 But VERY heavy in hickory. -1 for guys that shoot 10gpp. Very tough +1 in hickory. Not so much in Doug Fir and Cedar break readily. -1

Off topic. The arrows I make for my wife's #25 recurve are about 5/16ths. Now those look like arrows. +1 Those actually don't look all that tough but made out of hickory they are tough +1 and fly slow enough to catch. -10 haha

From: fdp
Date: 16-Nov-23




How much larger in diameter is 23/64 than 11/32 ?

From: Andy Man
Date: 16-Nov-23




1/64”. Nothing

From: fdp
Date: 16-Nov-23




Yepper....

From: Mike E
Date: 16-Nov-23




It seems sometimes that higher spines 80+ are available more so in 23/64 depending on the vendor and type of wood.

From: Bowlim
Date: 17-Nov-23




14% stiffer, and 9% stronger, based on dimensions. Of course wood is not consistent.

From: Bob Rowlands
Date: 17-Nov-23




^^^ That's a fact.

Removing 1/64th lowers the spine on any individual shaft. Take a 23/64ths shaft and spine it. Then sand it to 11/32 and spine that. The spine is gonna be lower. I've doweled hundreds of hickory, doug fir, and cedar shafts, and spin sand them down to particular spines or spine groups.

From: S Quinton
Date: 17-Nov-23




I never notice the 64th of an inch either way

From: Corax_latrans
Date: 17-Nov-23




It’s funny, though…

I’s swear that the difference between 22 and 23 64ths can be seen from 10 feet away…..

And I kind of like those chubby shafts, for the same reason that I like a SXS shotgun; they just seem to line up quickly and perfectly. Of course I also like an 18/64” or even a 1/4” nock because they are so slick between the fingers….

So maybe there’s an up-side to that bulk on a quick shot?

From: Wudstix Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 20-Nov-23




I'll be shooting tapered shafts, and have heard some encouraging things about spine differences between the two.





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