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How many put felt in the string grooves?

Messages posted to thread:
olddogrib 17-Sep-23
RonP 17-Sep-23
EZ Archer 17-Sep-23
Rick Barbee 17-Sep-23
fdp 17-Sep-23
reddogge 17-Sep-23
Jason316 17-Sep-23
David McLendon 17-Sep-23
2 bears 17-Sep-23
SteveBNY 17-Sep-23
GUTPILEPA 17-Sep-23
Gun 17-Sep-23
David McLendon 17-Sep-23
HEXX 17-Sep-23
Mahigunn 17-Sep-23
Pdiddly2 17-Sep-23
Todd the archer 17-Sep-23
HEXX 17-Sep-23
Jon Stewart 17-Sep-23
SteveBNY 17-Sep-23
Bigdog 21 17-Sep-23
deerhunt51 17-Sep-23
Clydebow 18-Sep-23
Stringwacker 18-Sep-23
Live2Hunt 18-Sep-23
Md2bintn 18-Sep-23
Zbone 19-Sep-23
lonfitz 19-Sep-23
Stringwacker 19-Sep-23
Zbone 19-Sep-23
olddogrib 19-Sep-23
Live2Hunt 19-Sep-23
HEXX 19-Sep-23
Steve P 19-Sep-23
Steve P 19-Sep-23
Md2bintn 19-Sep-23
Zbone 19-Sep-23
Md2bintn 19-Sep-23
David McLendon 19-Sep-23
Zbone 19-Sep-23
Zbone 19-Sep-23
Rick Barbee 19-Sep-23
David McLendon 19-Sep-23
Zbone 19-Sep-23
deerhunt51 20-Sep-23
deerhunt51 20-Sep-23
Gary Savaloja 20-Sep-23
From: olddogrib
Date: 17-Sep-23




How many folks still put adhesive backed felt/Velcro in the string grooves and below as part of their quietening regimen? Just curious, as I've used more than one bowyer over the years who categorically declared putting anything over the string groove area would void any warranties on their bows. I suspect limb styles and brace height (think recurves vs. long bow) contribute to perceived "string slap" in that area more than anything else. And I think we can all agree it's subjective and different types/decibel levels of "noise" are more noticeable. I've tried it off and on over a couple decades and not been convinced either way. I've also watched many YouTube vids where they're cackling about how much difference it makes and I can tell no difference between the "before and after", lol. Granted, my ears aren't the best judge anymore and the deer never stick around to offer an opinion (or aren't in any shape to).

From: RonP
Date: 17-Sep-23




i had a recurve many years ago that benefitted from it. it was less noisy with the felt in the string grooves.

i never liked it and fortunately never needed it on other bows.

string type and how the loops are made and padded makes a difference imo.

From: EZ Archer
Date: 17-Sep-23




It seems to work for me for certain bows, depending on the bow and how it’s set up

From: Rick Barbee
Date: 17-Sep-23




I never put anything "in" the grooves.

"That's not where the slap happens."

You might have to play with material size, and location some, but usually for me, a 1" square, or round disc of a soft material (I use the fuzzy side of peel & stick velcro) placed just inside of where the string leaves contact with the limb does the job of slap dampening quite well.

Rick

From: fdp
Date: 17-Sep-23




No.

From: reddogge
Date: 17-Sep-23




I do not.

From: Jason316
Date: 17-Sep-23




No. I've tried it and couldn't tell any difference in sound. Heard it can mess with the string travel/positioning and lead to twisted limbs.

From: David McLendon
Date: 17-Sep-23




One little quarter inch adhesive backed felt disc right where the slap happens, and it is not in the groove.

From: 2 bears
Date: 17-Sep-23




The grooves are to help center the string from a less than perfect draw & release. Filling them is inviting a possible twist.>>>----> Ken

From: SteveBNY
Date: 17-Sep-23




As Rick and others said, the slap doesn't happen in the grooves.

From: GUTPILEPA
Date: 17-Sep-23




Yep I do what Mr Barbee does

From: Gun Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 17-Sep-23




I use limb camo sleeves which seem to bunch up some at the tip end. I guess that helps some w noise. Otherwise no.

From: David McLendon
Date: 17-Sep-23




"The grooves are to help center the string from a less than perfect draw & release. Filling them is inviting a possible twist.>>>----> Ken"

That's worth reading again.

From: HEXX
Date: 17-Sep-23




Always !

From: Mahigunn
Date: 17-Sep-23




Fewer things on my bows means less to go wrong. I seldom use string silencers, even on recurve

From: Pdiddly2
Date: 17-Sep-23

Pdiddly2's embedded Photo



Nothing in the grooves…looks like crap too!

This instead…very fine sock wool…also prevents the game spooking sound a waxed string makes lifting off the limb!

From: Todd the archer Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 17-Sep-23




This the experience I had. I have a set of Uukha limbs VX + with the x-curve profile. I got them for my barebow rig, a 27” Gillo. While I don’t shoot unusually light arrows it was LOUD! Even on other risers it was noisy unless I shot super heavy arrows (700- 800 grain). I now have them on my WF-21 CD riser and guess what still loud even with cat whiskers. As my one friend said “I guess they are just for looks”! This where we get back on topic, so I tried these cheap self adhesive strips with fur on them, laid them in the string grooves but only slightly past where the string makes contact. Yep still loud! While at ETAR another friend of mine mentioned that’s not where the slap is coming from ( like Rick said). So I peeled them off later and put them starting just under where string lays on the limb and towards the riser. WOW huge difference!

As far as interfering with the strings tracking the strip has taken on its own groove following the one on the limb so I don’t think there is going to be an issue.

From: HEXX
Date: 17-Sep-23




That was just a starting point for me. I do a lot more than that to quiet my shot with very little loss of speed.

From: Jon Stewart
Date: 17-Sep-23




no

From: SteveBNY
Date: 17-Sep-23




Todd the archer - you are exposing my "secret". LOL!

From: Bigdog 21
Date: 17-Sep-23




No!! what does the string groves do for my bow why are they there,??

From: deerhunt51
Date: 17-Sep-23




Ya, just cover up the string grove! Just use a padded string.

From: Clydebow
Date: 18-Sep-23




Never

From: Stringwacker Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 18-Sep-23




Like a few others have mentioned, I place felt on the bow about where the string groove stops. I used to put felt over the grooves, but the adhesive would always come loose and bunch up all the felt up near the groove. Made it hard to string so I just quit using it over the string groove. It still works about the same.

From: Live2Hunt
Date: 18-Sep-23




There are some bumpers that 3-rivers sells you put on the string at the groove. These helped on my Bear Super K.

From: Md2bintn
Date: 18-Sep-23




As Rick said. String slap doesn’t happen in the grooves. It’s below the grooves if at all. Think things through folks

From: Zbone
Date: 19-Sep-23




How big of a piece of felt or velcro just below the string groves or string contact of the limb do you guys go.. From just under the the groove or contact to how far?

From: lonfitz
Date: 19-Sep-23




I only do it when using Flemish strings.

From: Stringwacker Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 19-Sep-23




I just use a rectangular 2" section of so of thick felt and place it on the limb where the strung bows bowstring just barely touches the felt. This puts it at the very bottom of the groove.

I haven't experimented a lot with different placement bow this seems to work fine for me.

From: Zbone
Date: 19-Sep-23

Zbone's embedded Photo



What about these rubber thingys placed just bellow the string grove?

From: olddogrib
Date: 19-Sep-23




Gary, is that where the maker recommends? I think I just heard my bowyer faint and hit the floor?

From: Live2Hunt
Date: 19-Sep-23




I believe that is supposed to go below the groove in the bow. I hate putting felt in the groove. But, I have tried putting it below the groove only to still get that slapping sound, especially with fast flight string. Seems louder when cold also.

From: HEXX
Date: 19-Sep-23




Zone, I do both.

From: Steve P
Date: 19-Sep-23




Not anymore. I do like Pdiddly has done on his string.

Steve

From: Steve P
Date: 19-Sep-23




From: Md2bintn
Date: 19-Sep-23




Zbow. That’s not below the string groove

From: Zbone
Date: 19-Sep-23




I can see its not below the string grove, that is why I asked if anybody tried below the string grove...

From: Md2bintn
Date: 19-Sep-23




My bad!!! Definitely looks spongy enough to absorb some noise

From: David McLendon
Date: 19-Sep-23




Below the groove, do not inhibit the string from lying properly in the full length of the string groove, it is there for a reason. The string slaps on the flat below the groove as the limbs attempt to over recover and the motion is stopped by the string causing the slap. it doesn't take a lot of material; I use a .25" adhesive backed felt disc. It's where you put it that counts.

From: Zbone
Date: 19-Sep-23




Slow motion video would be cool to actually see the string slap...

From: Zbone
Date: 19-Sep-23




Should have said super slow-mo...

From: Rick Barbee
Date: 19-Sep-23




Gary, it's actually easy to find the slap spot.

Get some red lipstick, and color you limbs with it for about 6" inside the end of the string grooves toward the riser.

Shoot the bow with the lipstick on it. The string will smudge the lipstick at the exact spots of contact.

Rick

From: David McLendon
Date: 19-Sep-23




TaaDaa^^^ That's how ya do it.

From: Zbone
Date: 19-Sep-23




Wow, way cool Rick, thank you very much!

From: deerhunt51
Date: 20-Sep-23




Use a properly made padded Flemish twist string, and adjust brace height. None of my recurves are loud.

From: deerhunt51
Date: 20-Sep-23




Putting anything on your limb is a good way to potentially twist your limb. I have seen it happen to a beautiful Bob Lee recurve when my buddy was stringing His bow and the string caught on the felt pad he had installed on the string groves of bow. Bad idea!

From: Gary Savaloja
Date: 20-Sep-23




Not unless I absolutely have to.





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