Our field league is just starting up and boy do I need to practice, I lost an arrow on the first target, a 40 yard walk-up! Which leads me to my question.

I already know that the alloy is different for the Platinum and Jazz shafts. The Platinum is 7075-T9, and the Jazz is just 7075. Has anyone tried both shafts, and if so, what difference, if any, did you notice?

I normally shoot Platinum Plus. This time I am wondering if going to a less expensive shaft will be beneficial.

Selstickbow says we need an arrow dog at the clubhouse!

You may find a difference in durability, you won't find a difference in accuracy.

7075 is the aluminum T-9 is the heat temper. No idea why they would temper one different from the other. Advertizing???? >>>-----> Ken

Maybe it takes longer to make a T-9? But, unless you know how to straighten arrows I would start closer and buy the better grade.

I use both & have for a couple years now. Durability I see no difference But I pretty much keep them in the target "someplace". Accuracy is up to me. Regardless of which shaft, it's always me to blame. I have a set of each for upcoming tournaments this summer.

What Frank said.

I have found the differences in durability compelling, but for hunting, where arrow survivability is low (for me, anyway!) there’s zero downside to shooting Jazz/Tributes….

loose -

Assuming the same size (number), there's no functional difference in durability, and I seriously doubt anyone here will be able to shoot the difference. That's providing, of course, you can get the spine you need with the Jazz arrows and can deal with the colors ;).

Viper out.

"7075 is the aluminum T-9 is the heat temper. No idea why they would temper one different from the other."

Heat tempering is energy-intensive, and energy ain't cheap. I'm guessing that they don't take a bend so easy. Remember those old green Gamegetter arrows? Took a bend if you looked at them cross-eyed. Betting they were not tempered.

I've used plenty of both and both are great platinum + is a little better arrow (tempered and more resistant to bending) not sure but maybe a little btter tolerances) (I 'm not good enough to take advantage of any of that though)

If I were using for competitive 3-D I would choose the platinum +

but for what I mainly do (stumping) I have found the Jazz softer temper is less prone to impact damage(mushrooming) though more likely prone to bending I have not found it a problem

Steel takes high heat & quick cool to harden. Low heat & slow cool to draw back/temper. Aluminium is just the opposite Low heat to harden only 200 to 300 degrees for T-9. I suspect it is that hot drawing out the tubes & requires no farther heating only the cooling. 7075 is universally accepted by the folks that build missiles & has long been used for aircraft especially for wing spars. It is often referred to as aircraft grade aluminium. 7075 is roughly double the tensile strength of 6061. Just some interesting tidbits of information. It don't make the arrows fly any better.>>>>--> Ken

NOT TRUE, Ken!!!

Aircraft Aluminum is like 50% faster. Has to be, or the planes and rockets and missiles would never get off the ground!!

It’s a FACT - I read it on the innerwebs….

O.K. Matt, I will buy that. We are going to have everyone switching back to aluminium. May have the carbon manufacturers after us if folks start boycotting. Nearly all of them are foreign anyway. I believe Easton is still building right here in the good ole U.S.A. >>>-----> Ken

There's a difference --- Jazz are 7075 alloy rated at 90000psi. Platinum Plus are 7075 T9 rated at 96000psi.

I once bought some jazzes and found them to be prone to bending. I always say they were the most expensive arrows I ever bought because they didn't last very long. I just bought quite a few platinum pluses--- for me the price difference is worth it. DanaC covered the T9 very well.

Been using the Jazz for years now for hunting and target and never had bending problems with them any more than other aluminum. I do have a good arrow straightner and know how to use it so have no problem with aluminum. After blowing up several carbons I just do not trust them personally.

I just opened a box from Lancaster. A dozen black Jazz 1816's. They have those new fangled push in nocks that I'm not thrilled with. It came with a tool to push them in.

I tried to push one in and literally had to drive it in with a hammer! Is that normal?

No way you would ever get it out or turn it.

The 1816's I had bent to easily for me. One and done with those arrows.

Just funnin’ ya Ken - figured you’d sniff me right out ;)

One Man’s Reality: the Jazz/Tributes (like the old American Eagles) have a very brief life expectancy when used for stumping or for hunting, whether large game or small. Shoot them into a typical, purpose-built target butt and pull them properly/carefully and they will last long enough that you’ll notice the colors wearing off. They’re WAY better than the “Fall Stalker” line, which can be bent simply by hitting a sturdy block of ethafoam at a bit of an angle - fine for big game and costly as hell for anything else.

I like the cheap ones for working out my bare-shaft recipes, but after that… it’s just burning cash, the way I shoot….

my thoughts exactly Thumper

I like the softer Jazz for stumping -

O.K. Folks I give up. I stated in the first post I didn't know the Jazz were not treated to T-9. Wall thickness also matters does it not? Red Beastmaster beat a knock in with a hammer. That is tough enough for me. Jazz works for me but I don't shoot a lot of poundage & try to keep them on the target. Have a good day. >>>>------> Ken

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