From: Rick Barbee
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Date: 28-May-23 |
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I think it's a cool picture.
Five target, and 5 broadhead arrows footed.
All weigh 649 grains, and all shoot very good, and the same.
Rick
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From: 2 bears
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Date: 28-May-23 |
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I agree & it looks like you are loaded & ready to go. Good hunting. >>>----> Ken
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From: Rick Barbee
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Date: 28-May-23 |
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Thanks Ken.
The AMO "static" spine of these shafts is 126.2#.
The "dynamic" spine after finished build is 86#.
They shoot perfect from my 65# BWC MOACs.
I don't need a lot of arrows, so these combined with my two small game fluflu arrows should tide me over for a long time.
Rick
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From: tradslinger
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Date: 28-May-23 |
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They look excellent, very well made and should serve you very well. I have never made any quite like that, just never took the time to. Can't wait to see some results of them.
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From: Batman
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Date: 28-May-23 |
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Pls go Kill some feral hawgs! Wanna see some arrow flinging!
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From: Jeff Durnell
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Date: 28-May-23 |
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Very good.... as worthy arrows should be. I know there's more invested in those ones than most. You've told us about the heads. But what is the shaft material and what are they footed with?
Are they Trad?
:^)
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From: Rick Barbee
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Date: 28-May-23 |
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Jeff, the shafts are .244" diameter Victory VAP Sport .250s.
The footing is 2" of GT Trad 7595. I footed only to stiffen them up, but the added 22 grains of weight was a welcome side benefit.
They look weird on the target arrows due to the stock insert/outsert connection system, which adds 1" to the overall length of the arrow.
They're trad enough for me. :-)
Rick
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From: Jeff Durnell
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Date: 28-May-23 |
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Perfect then. Sorry but I have no idea what those other numbers, abbreviations, or designations mean. I simply have never dealt with that sort of thing. Foreign language. Don't mind me though. Carry on. Greatly respect your opinion and experience and I'm sure they'll do what you've set them forth to do... or we wouldn't be here talkin about it. Git er done. Good luck.
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From: grizz
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Date: 28-May-23 |
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Batman X 2
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From: Rick Barbee
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Date: 28-May-23 |
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No one wants me to go kill some pigs more than me.
I'm not seeing any here on the home place right now, and the farm is a no go for me for at least a little while longer.
When I can, I will.
Rick
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From: Don T Lewis
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Date: 28-May-23 |
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Very nice! What does the guy say on forged in fire? “ They will kill! “
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From: hickory
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Date: 28-May-23 |
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Those are some mean lookin broadheads. Good lookin arrows.
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From: Rick Barbee
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Date: 28-May-23 |
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After the new string, and arrow reconfiguration, this afternoon I rezeroed my sight for 15 yards.
This was the result holding the the sight zero right where you see the red dot. All except the 40 yarder (bare shaft) were shot with one bare shaft, one target arrow, and one broadhead/hunting arrow.
This will do nicely. :-)
Rick
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From: Rick Barbee
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Date: 28-May-23 |
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I wasn't going to foot my fluflu small game arrows, but I guess I'm going to have to.
I went rabbit hunting late this evening right before dark. Got three shots.
Missed all three to the right due to weak flying arrows. The footing will correct that. :-)
Rick
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From: Rick Barbee
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Date: 28-May-23 |
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Now I know, that I'm likely going to get bombarded with questions of - why a sight.
Answer:
It's something to play with.
It's an awesome training tool.
And, as little as I get to shoot lately - it's a confidence booster.
Rick
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From: mahantango
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Date: 29-May-23 |
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Wow, that is one flat-shooting rig, and to say you’re tuned would be an understatement. Curious about the fletching?
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From: Dry Bones
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Date: 29-May-23 |
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I was waiting on someone to ask about the fletching style there Ricks, AND you said the footing on the field points looks that way due to the insert/outsert. So the carbon shaft footing does butt up to the outsert? I was trying to figure out how might have glued the footing there, and has proposed in my brain it was due to making the shaft stiffer. Sure looks like you are honed in my friend. I wished I could send you the soggy bellied visitor we have been seeing here. He hasn't made a pattern yet. Somewhere between midnight and 6am he comes strolling through.
-Bones
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From: Rick Barbee
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Date: 29-May-23 |
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Two more reasons for the sight are - it really helps with tuning, and gives me a much more accurate indication of trajectory.
The fletching is - 3 X 2.5" Bi-Delta Shark Tooth vanes (off the shelf).
Yes the footing butts up solid to the outserts, and to the homemade broadhead adapters, because the shaft goes inside them 7/16".
The steel all thread pin of the adapters go inside the shafts 1-1/16" (hot glued), and are JB-Welded into the bottom of the broadhead ferrules, everything else is glued together with Stanley high/low hot melt glue.
Rick
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From: Rick Barbee
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Date: 29-May-23 |
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When I speak of zeroing the sight, I am talking about adjusting so the two cut outs at center of the aperture (I call them the bar of the sight) are aligned with the spot at my desired distance of 15 yards.
Rick
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From: Rick Barbee
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Date: 29-May-23 |
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Getting serious.
My broadheads with adapters & footing weigh 297 grains.
This foots the arrow 2" just like the GT shaft pieces do.
It is 4 grains light with a 175gr screw in point for 293 grains.
Close enough for the prototype.
I'll do some nailed down length & weight calculating, and build a couple more when I have time.
T6-6061 aluminum bunker busters. :-)
Rick
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From: Rick Barbee
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Date: 29-May-23 |
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I went ahead, and built the screw in adapter for my other fluflu/small game arrow. Only problem I'm having is, they are so heavy, and so fast, that they really aren't fluflu anymore. LOL
Rick
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From: Rick Barbee
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Date: 30-May-23 |
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[[[ "Too complicated LOL" ]]]
Define complicated. :-P
Rick
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From: grizz
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Date: 30-May-23 |
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Complicated: placing ten pounds of shat in a nine pound container
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From: Rick Barbee
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Date: 30-May-23 |
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Grizz, my arrows weigh 649 grains, so just a touch less than 10 gpp.
Nothing about any of this is complicated, plus it's interesting, and fun to do. :-)
Rick
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From: Gun
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Date: 30-May-23 |
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As long as your happy, that's all that matters Rick. Good to see someone else serious about their gear.
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From: Rick Barbee
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Date: 30-May-23 |
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Thanks Gun, and yes I'm happy. Very happy to put it mildly. :-)
Here's a video of my chronograph speeds with the new string, and new arrow configuration.
There's absolutely nothing to be "unhappy" with about that. :-)
Rick
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From: vikingbarr
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Date: 31-May-23 |
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I noticed that the broadheads were sharpened to varying degrees of serration. It would be interesting to note how each performed for blood trail and penetration.
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From: Rick Barbee
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Date: 31-May-23 |
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[[[ "I noticed that the broadheads were sharpened to varying degrees of serration. It would be interesting to note how each performed for blood trail and penetration." ]]]
They are all the same (non serrated), except the far right one.
It is serrated from the factory, and it's there for me to test out.
Unfortunately, I haven't got to shoot an animal with it yet, but it'll be the first to go when I do get the opportunity.
I've never liked serrated heads, but it might change my mind. We'll see.
Rick
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From: Dry Bones
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Date: 31-May-23 |
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Rick, I mostly agree with you about the serrations, HOWEVER. A few years back I tried the Magnus Black Hornet that was serrated (after a conversation with Mike) with my compound and I have to say either the hits were all great or there may be something to it. I believe Ray Charles could have been able to follow those blood trails. The wounds were significant, but the let-out was incredible. Due to the abrupt angle I have not shot these in my recurves, but the serrated Stingers have had a significant blood letting as well.
-Bones
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