Traditional Archery Discussions on the Leatherwall


Wood arrow guys

Messages posted to thread:
Andy Man 16-Jan-23
Scoop 16-Jan-23
bodymanbowyer 16-Jan-23
CStyles 16-Jan-23
Andy Man 16-Jan-23
Andy Man 16-Jan-23
bodymanbowyer 16-Jan-23
Jeff Durnell 16-Jan-23
Mpdh 16-Jan-23
Andy Man 16-Jan-23
cut it out 16-Jan-23
Andy Man 16-Jan-23
N Y Yankee 17-Jan-23
Murray Seratt 18-Jan-23
Babysaph 18-Jan-23
Babysaph 18-Jan-23
Andy Man 18-Jan-23
fdp 18-Jan-23
Corax_latrans 21-Jan-23
Kelly 21-Jan-23
Scoop 21-Jan-23
Andy Man 21-Jan-23
Corax_latrans 21-Jan-23
Bob Rowlands 21-Jan-23
Corax_latrans 21-Jan-23
Andy Man 22-Jan-23
donnyjack 23-Jan-23
pondscum2 25-Jan-23
pondscum2 25-Jan-23
Altitude Sickness 25-Jan-23
From: Andy Man
Date: 16-Jan-23




Just a heads up

Sherwood Shafts had bulk "Kimberly" shafts got a 100 for Dog arrows and stump shooting

they look very good and glad I ordered them

they are supposed to be a grade under the Hunters at a very good price

Nothing wrong with them at all and will be great for a cheap stumping arrow

From: Scoop Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 16-Jan-23




I got some, too, Andy Man, and agree. The quality was much better than anticipated and will separate them out, with many making small game arrows/stumpers.

From: bodymanbowyer
Date: 16-Jan-23




I've never made any arrows from Douglas fur. Might need to get me some 3540s. JF

From: CStyles
Date: 16-Jan-23




Andy, what are dog arrows? For your Goldens to fetch?

From: Andy Man
Date: 16-Jan-23




C Styles- sometimes Biscuit decides he needs an arrow for personal use or when retrieving -

and the stump won't let go sometimes and I only get part of an arrow when he brings it to me

but He finds more under leafs and in briars that I would never recover to offset those that he helps too much on

Has gotten much better now that he is older and less excitable- amazing how fast he can find one with the nose

From: Andy Man
Date: 16-Jan-23

Andy Man's embedded Photo



no way I would go get this arrow in January

But he couldnt wait to go after it

From: bodymanbowyer
Date: 16-Jan-23




What a good puppy retrieving arrows by a retriever.

From: Jeff Durnell
Date: 16-Jan-23




That's cool. That's a good dog.

From: Mpdh Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 16-Jan-23




What the heck were you shooting at?

MP

From: Andy Man
Date: 16-Jan-23




was shoting across the pond at stuff on the bank

and one did not make it

when we are out stumping anything is a target -if it wasn't for him I would be arrowless in a week

From: cut it out
Date: 16-Jan-23




I’ve only ever shot cedar and would like to try some Doug fir one of these days.

From: Andy Man
Date: 16-Jan-23




They are tougher than cedar espically for rough stump shooting

and can't pencile sharpen tapers nees a sander

little more straightening maintenance (little)

cedar tend to break easier but stay a little straighter if 3-D target shooting think would go with cedar

but I mostly rove and like the toughness

just my basic thoughts

From: N Y Yankee
Date: 17-Jan-23




Douglas Fir Makes a great arrow. I've had a few dozen of them. Lost quite a few missing targets out back of the old place where I could shoot. If you missed a target it would go out into a mess of brush and evergreen trees. I would just write them off as lost.

A couple times, I shot a DF arrow into a brick wall by mistake. The broadhead ferrule split but the shaft was salvageable. Just trim back a half inch and retaper.

From: Murray Seratt Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 18-Jan-23




From: Babysaph Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 18-Jan-23




I told ya Andy that was going to be a great dog. Love it. Worth his weight in gold

From: Babysaph Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 18-Jan-23




Is that dog a gold tip retriever? Lol

From: Andy Man
Date: 18-Jan-23




Ha Ha

any arrow is retrieved

From: fdp
Date: 18-Jan-23




That's a heck of a deal on those shafts.

From: Corax_latrans
Date: 21-Jan-23




Ask a silly question….,

My primary bows are all #55@28”; my arrows are generally 27 3/4”.

Mostly I shoot RER LB, Howatt Bamboo Viper (#50), Howatt Hunter and sometimes a Bighorn TD RC.

Usually I shoot 500 + 200 gr points or 600 + 175; 2016 +125 or 1916 + 125; sometimes on the Viper I’ll shoot 1816 with 100 up front.

Stu’s calculator seems to work perfectly for me.

So should I just get 50-55 and call it good? Or would the smart money be to hedge #5?

I’d hate to have to go to heavy FPs to make ‘em fly Guud…

Eaglewing is a whole‘ nother animal….

From: Kelly
Date: 21-Jan-23




Definitely 55-60 and maybe 60-65 if using 160 grain points or heavier. All of your bows are cut very close to center or beyond and you basically have a 28” bop arrow.

From: Scoop Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 21-Jan-23




2x Kelly.

From: Andy Man
Date: 21-Jan-23




60-65 with 125 grain points

I'm shooting a 49#@26" ASL with FF string and 60-65 # spine cut 27" BOP work well

From: Corax_latrans
Date: 21-Jan-23




So what would you guys figure for an all-up weight of one of these Doug Fir arrows?

I guess I have always figured 125 grains was The Standard Point Weight… I don’t know how many feet/second an extra 25 or 50 grains would cost me… most of my 500s finish up at about 485, but around 500 grains oughtta work out…

But I guess you can always sand a shaft down to hit a desired spine…. And if I were to put my taper plane to use, I suppose that would reduce spine a bit as well, right? Probably ought to figure that into my equation…

From: Bob Rowlands
Date: 21-Jan-23




I shot a #55 Grizzly for decades. I've made a couple hundred doug fir arrows, from boards. I doubt any were under 500 grains with 125 heads. Typically a shaft in the 50-80 spine range, with 125 minimum head, was around 550 grains and up to 600. As for speed loss with 50 grains, beats me. But I could care less about that at the short range I shoot.

From: Corax_latrans
Date: 21-Jan-23




I figured at least one of you guys would know the weight right off. ;)

10 GPP isn’t atrocious. And I just remembered that I have a few test-kit shafts around and a dozen woodies in the basement that I took in on a trade, so guess I’ll spine ‘em and shoot ‘em and see where that leads…

From: Andy Man
Date: 22-Jan-23




I just buy them spined in 5# groups and with in 10 grains or so of weight

then I stain dip and feather and points of 125 grains and they are what they are

they been working and I got bigger things to worry about

From: donnyjack Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 23-Jan-23




Corax the weight of DF just like other woods will very. Im shooting DF cut 29" BOP with a 160 gr head and most of my arrows are coming in around 635 gr. but I had my arrow guy build we another doz. this year and they came out at 585 gr. so thats a 50gr. swing. if you order you own arrows you can ask the supplier to tell you what weights he has if your trying to hit a given weight.

DJ

From: pondscum2
Date: 25-Jan-23




aren't douglas fir and "chundoo" the same thing? or am i hallucinating again? loved chundoo...shot lots of it before i started making all of mine out of poplar.

From: pondscum2
Date: 25-Jan-23




hallucinations again. i was thinking about lodgepole pine. sorry.

From: Altitude Sickness
Date: 25-Jan-23




Love that picture





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