From: Andy Man
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Date: 16-Jan-23 |
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Just a heads up
Sherwood Shafts had bulk "Kimberly" shafts got a 100 for Dog arrows and stump shooting
they look very good and glad I ordered them
they are supposed to be a grade under the Hunters at a very good price
Nothing wrong with them at all and will be great for a cheap stumping arrow
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From: Scoop
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Date: 16-Jan-23 |
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I got some, too, Andy Man, and agree. The quality was much better than anticipated and will separate them out, with many making small game arrows/stumpers.
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From: bodymanbowyer
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Date: 16-Jan-23 |
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I've never made any arrows from Douglas fur. Might need to get me some 3540s. JF
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From: CStyles
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Date: 16-Jan-23 |
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Andy, what are dog arrows? For your Goldens to fetch?
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From: Andy Man
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Date: 16-Jan-23 |
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C Styles- sometimes Biscuit decides he needs an arrow for personal use or when retrieving -
and the stump won't let go sometimes and I only get part of an arrow when he brings it to me
but He finds more under leafs and in briars that I would never recover to offset those that he helps too much on
Has gotten much better now that he is older and less excitable- amazing how fast he can find one with the nose
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From: Andy Man
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Date: 16-Jan-23 |
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no way I would go get this arrow in January
But he couldnt wait to go after it
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From: bodymanbowyer
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Date: 16-Jan-23 |
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What a good puppy retrieving arrows by a retriever.
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From: Jeff Durnell
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Date: 16-Jan-23 |
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That's cool. That's a good dog.
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From: Mpdh
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Date: 16-Jan-23 |
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What the heck were you shooting at?
MP
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From: Andy Man
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Date: 16-Jan-23 |
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was shoting across the pond at stuff on the bank
and one did not make it
when we are out stumping anything is a target -if it wasn't for him I would be arrowless in a week
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From: cut it out
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Date: 16-Jan-23 |
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I’ve only ever shot cedar and would like to try some Doug fir one of these days.
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From: Andy Man
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Date: 16-Jan-23 |
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They are tougher than cedar espically for rough stump shooting
and can't pencile sharpen tapers nees a sander
little more straightening maintenance (little)
cedar tend to break easier but stay a little straighter if 3-D target shooting think would go with cedar
but I mostly rove and like the toughness
just my basic thoughts
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From: N Y Yankee
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Date: 17-Jan-23 |
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Douglas Fir Makes a great arrow. I've had a few dozen of them. Lost quite a few missing targets out back of the old place where I could shoot. If you missed a target it would go out into a mess of brush and evergreen trees. I would just write them off as lost.
A couple times, I shot a DF arrow into a brick wall by mistake. The broadhead ferrule split but the shaft was salvageable. Just trim back a half inch and retaper.
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From: Babysaph
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Date: 18-Jan-23 |
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I told ya Andy that was going to be a great dog. Love it. Worth his weight in gold
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From: Babysaph
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Date: 18-Jan-23 |
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Is that dog a gold tip retriever? Lol
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From: Andy Man
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Date: 18-Jan-23 |
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Ha Ha
any arrow is retrieved
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From: fdp
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Date: 18-Jan-23 |
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That's a heck of a deal on those shafts.
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From: Corax_latrans
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Date: 21-Jan-23 |
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Ask a silly question….,
My primary bows are all #55@28”; my arrows are generally 27 3/4”.
Mostly I shoot RER LB, Howatt Bamboo Viper (#50), Howatt Hunter and sometimes a Bighorn TD RC.
Usually I shoot 500 + 200 gr points or 600 + 175; 2016 +125 or 1916 + 125; sometimes on the Viper I’ll shoot 1816 with 100 up front.
Stu’s calculator seems to work perfectly for me.
So should I just get 50-55 and call it good? Or would the smart money be to hedge #5?
I’d hate to have to go to heavy FPs to make ‘em fly Guud…
Eaglewing is a whole‘ nother animal….
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From: Kelly
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Date: 21-Jan-23 |
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Definitely 55-60 and maybe 60-65 if using 160 grain points or heavier. All of your bows are cut very close to center or beyond and you basically have a 28” bop arrow.
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From: Scoop
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Date: 21-Jan-23 |
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2x Kelly.
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From: Andy Man
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Date: 21-Jan-23 |
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60-65 with 125 grain points
I'm shooting a 49#@26" ASL with FF string and 60-65 # spine cut 27" BOP work well
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From: Corax_latrans
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Date: 21-Jan-23 |
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So what would you guys figure for an all-up weight of one of these Doug Fir arrows?
I guess I have always figured 125 grains was The Standard Point Weight… I don’t know how many feet/second an extra 25 or 50 grains would cost me… most of my 500s finish up at about 485, but around 500 grains oughtta work out…
But I guess you can always sand a shaft down to hit a desired spine…. And if I were to put my taper plane to use, I suppose that would reduce spine a bit as well, right? Probably ought to figure that into my equation…
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From: Bob Rowlands
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Date: 21-Jan-23 |
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I shot a #55 Grizzly for decades. I've made a couple hundred doug fir arrows, from boards. I doubt any were under 500 grains with 125 heads. Typically a shaft in the 50-80 spine range, with 125 minimum head, was around 550 grains and up to 600. As for speed loss with 50 grains, beats me. But I could care less about that at the short range I shoot.
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From: Corax_latrans
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Date: 21-Jan-23 |
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I figured at least one of you guys would know the weight right off. ;)
10 GPP isn’t atrocious. And I just remembered that I have a few test-kit shafts around and a dozen woodies in the basement that I took in on a trade, so guess I’ll spine ‘em and shoot ‘em and see where that leads…
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From: Andy Man
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Date: 22-Jan-23 |
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I just buy them spined in 5# groups and with in 10 grains or so of weight
then I stain dip and feather and points of 125 grains and they are what they are
they been working and I got bigger things to worry about
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From: donnyjack
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Date: 23-Jan-23 |
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Corax the weight of DF just like other woods will very. Im shooting DF cut 29" BOP with a 160 gr head and most of my arrows are coming in around 635 gr. but I had my arrow guy build we another doz. this year and they came out at 585 gr. so thats a 50gr. swing. if you order you own arrows you can ask the supplier to tell you what weights he has if your trying to hit a given weight.
DJ
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From: pondscum2
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Date: 25-Jan-23 |
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aren't douglas fir and "chundoo" the same thing? or am i hallucinating again? loved chundoo...shot lots of it before i started making all of mine out of poplar.
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From: pondscum2
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Date: 25-Jan-23 |
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hallucinations again. i was thinking about lodgepole pine. sorry.
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