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Knife Build-A-Long

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Stoner 09-Dec-22
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Mike E 09-Dec-22
Knifeguy 09-Dec-22
carpenter 09-Dec-22
2 bears 09-Dec-22
cobra 09-Dec-22
Stoner 09-Dec-22
Gray Goose Shaft 09-Dec-22
BRIBOWl 09-Dec-22
BRIBOWl 09-Dec-22
Randog 09-Dec-22
Jed Gitchel 09-Dec-22
Don T. Lewis 09-Dec-22
Don T. Lewis 09-Dec-22
Frisky 09-Dec-22
Corax_latrans 09-Dec-22
jdbbowhunter 10-Dec-22
Supernaut 10-Dec-22
selstickbow 10-Dec-22
Pineyhunter 10-Dec-22
Pineyhunter 10-Dec-22
Pineyhunter 10-Dec-22
Cedarsavage 10-Dec-22
fdp 10-Dec-22
Buzz 10-Dec-22
ephphatha 10-Dec-22
treehermit 11-Dec-22
buckeye 11-Dec-22
B.T. 11-Dec-22
Stoner 11-Dec-22
treehermit 11-Dec-22
2 bears 11-Dec-22
Stoner 11-Dec-22
Bigdog 21 11-Dec-22
Zbone 12-Dec-22
From: Stoner
Date: 09-Dec-22

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Here is a pair of knives I made for my knapping neighbor and my old boss in Oklahoma. I saved a bunch of ol' stuff from the shop at work. It was for Christmas.

The diamond blade is from the asphalt crews trash. John

From: Stoner
Date: 09-Dec-22

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Cut free

From: Stoner
Date: 09-Dec-22

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Shape cleaned up

From: Stoner
Date: 09-Dec-22

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Layout for handle

From: Stoner
Date: 09-Dec-22

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Date: 09-Dec-22

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Full bevel on one and half on other

From: 2 bears
Date: 09-Dec-22




Stoner, I had always been under the impression that diamond & carbide blades were not good cutting steel because it was the inserts that done the cutting & not the steel blade. Hopefully that was mis information. How do you judge if they are good knife making steel? Thanks, >>>----> Ken

From: Babysaph Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 09-Dec-22




Nice

From: Stoner
Date: 09-Dec-22

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Brass rivet holes

From: Stoner
Date: 09-Dec-22

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The oak is from the boards on the haul truck used for graders, dozers and other heavy equipment. John

From: Batman
Date: 09-Dec-22




WOW! Gonna look GREAT when FINISHED!

From: Stoner
Date: 09-Dec-22

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Never know what is laying around the shop or do a little dumpster diving. Ol' torch tips wood from road work. John

From: Stoner
Date: 09-Dec-22

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Ken, the steel that I have been using has been good for holding an edge. Only thing I have found is these blades get HOT!!! So inspect them carefully. See the next three pics. Thanks John

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Date: 09-Dec-22

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Date: 09-Dec-22

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Date: 09-Dec-22

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Handles shaped up

From: White Falcon
Date: 09-Dec-22




Nice

From: Stoner
Date: 09-Dec-22

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Finished up and ready to build a sheath.

From: Stoner
Date: 09-Dec-22

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Date: 09-Dec-22

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Date: 09-Dec-22

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Done

From: Mike E
Date: 09-Dec-22




Very nice work,,Thanks for sharing.

From: Knifeguy
Date: 09-Dec-22




Very nice!

From: carpenter
Date: 09-Dec-22




Outstanding work!

From: 2 bears
Date: 09-Dec-22




Stoner if you can drill without annealing, the steel is not hard enough for good blades. If it gets hot enough to change color when grinding you have altered the temper. Nice looking knives. The sheaths are very nice too. I just hate to see effort wasted if the steel is not good to start with. There would be no point in using good hard cutting steel to weld carbide cutters on but maybe some do. >>>----> Ken

From: cobra
Date: 09-Dec-22




Beautiful!

From: Stoner
Date: 09-Dec-22




Ken , I usually use wood cutting blades and do not let the steel change color. The handles are drilled with a special drill bit. Normal drill bits dull half way thru. Don't know whats right or wrong yet, jus' playin' around.

I hope to learn more soon. There is a local fellow here in Phoenix that is holding blacksmith classes with small groups only to give a little one on one time. I'll keep ya'll posted. Thanks for the input. John

From: Gray Goose Shaft
Date: 09-Dec-22




Wow, from rusty saw blade and rough boards to a really nice pair of knives.

From: BRIBOWl
Date: 09-Dec-22




Very nice wish I had your talent.

From: BRIBOWl
Date: 09-Dec-22




Very nice wish I had your talent.

From: Randog
Date: 09-Dec-22




Stoner, you do some very nice work. No shortage of talent on the Wall.

From: Jed Gitchel
Date: 09-Dec-22




Nice work!

From: Don T. Lewis
Date: 09-Dec-22




Beautiful knives John. Outstanding!

From: Don T. Lewis
Date: 09-Dec-22




Beautiful knives John. Outstanding!

From: Frisky
Date: 09-Dec-22




I like them!

Joe

From: Corax_latrans
Date: 09-Dec-22




Dang!

Neighbor across the street is a mason…. I’m gonna to ask him to save me some blades!!

That and (hot tip!!) those 1 cubic yard bags that they use to deliver gravel and what- not?? BEST THING EVER for hauling yard waste….

From: jdbbowhunter
Date: 10-Dec-22




Very Nice!!

From: Supernaut
Date: 10-Dec-22




Beautiful knives John and thanks for the pics and build along!

From: selstickbow
Date: 10-Dec-22




JOHN, wow, nice knives & good on you making them for a friend. Steve Long

From: Pineyhunter
Date: 10-Dec-22




Fine work indeed.

From: Pineyhunter
Date: 10-Dec-22




Fine work indeed.

From: Pineyhunter
Date: 10-Dec-22




Fine work indeed.

From: Cedarsavage
Date: 10-Dec-22




Pretty slick I like the handles

From: fdp
Date: 10-Dec-22




Pretty slick.

From: Buzz
Date: 10-Dec-22




Great job.

From: ephphatha
Date: 10-Dec-22




Those handles are cool.

From: treehermit
Date: 11-Dec-22




Those are nice. What did you use to create that bevel?

From: buckeye
Date: 11-Dec-22




I acquired a concrete blade very similar to yours and it didn't have enough carbon to take a heat treat. Whenever I have mystery steel, I will cut a piece about knife sized and stick it in the forge until a magnet no longer sticks to it. Dunk it in oil, then clamp it in a vice and smack it with a hammer. If it shatters or breaks clean, you have knife worthy steel, if it just bends , take it to the scrap yard or use it for something else. Your talent and time should be utilized on good materials. Those look really good by the way.

From: B.T.
Date: 11-Dec-22




I'm impressed.

From: Stoner
Date: 11-Dec-22




Dan, thank for the tip on the heat and magnet. Will definitely try. I am still very much a novice in this. As I said I hope here in the near future to take a blacksmith class in Pheonix.

Thomas, I use a belt sander to do the bevels. Have done some freehand and with a home made jig.

From: treehermit
Date: 11-Dec-22




Thanks. They are nice and the leatherwork too.

From: 2 bears
Date: 11-Dec-22




You will learn a lot from the blacksmith class. Basically if you start with hard metal you need to anneal it to work. If you don't you have to be very careful not to get it hot enough to change the color or you destroy the temper. When the edge gets thin that is where it will overheat the quickest & destroy the cutting edge. Cutting steel blades are usually too hard & can be drawn back a little in the oven or toaster oven 300 to 400 degrees. If it is soft to start with work it until near finished don't get the edge thinner than 1/32 or it will warp. heat/harden it until non magnetic & quench. It will be super hard. Then finish the edge & polish it & draw it back to desired hardness in the oven. Heat & quench/cool quickly to harden. Heat and slow cool to aneal. Low heat 3 to 4 hundred to draw. Carbon steel only Stainless is entirely different. P.S. Didn't mean to be negative in above posts just hate to see anyone waste time & talent if they don't have decent material to start with. >>>>-----> Ken

From: Stoner
Date: 11-Dec-22




Thanks Ken, When I fist started carving decoys we would throw the carving on the table in front of everyone. Then they would proceed to tear it apart. But Constructively. I try not to wear my feelings on my sleeve. I prefer to take it and build it better next time. John

From: Bigdog 21
Date: 11-Dec-22




Nice I like it.

From: Zbone
Date: 12-Dec-22




Great thread, THANKS for sharing... Awesome work...





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