Traditional Archery Discussions on the Leatherwall


Which one would pay more for

Messages posted to thread:
Nrthernrebel05 08-Dec-22
fdp 08-Dec-22
B.T. 08-Dec-22
Ross 08-Dec-22
ottertails 08-Dec-22
Babysaph 08-Dec-22
ishi4 08-Dec-22
Timberline2 08-Dec-22
MStyles 08-Dec-22
MStyles 08-Dec-22
Missouribreaks 09-Dec-22
N Y Yankee 09-Dec-22
George D. Stout 09-Dec-22
RonP 09-Dec-22
Phil Magistro 09-Dec-22
Dry Bones 09-Dec-22
JusPassin 09-Dec-22
Patrick 09-Dec-22
thekunk 09-Dec-22
PECO2 09-Dec-22
George D. Stout 09-Dec-22
Jim 09-Dec-22
Phil Magistro 09-Dec-22
Brad Lehmann 09-Dec-22
crookedstix 09-Dec-22
Don T. Lewis 09-Dec-22
Ken Schwartz 09-Dec-22
Corax_latrans 09-Dec-22
Babysaph 10-Dec-22
bowhunt 10-Dec-22
From: Nrthernrebel05
Date: 08-Dec-22




Just taking a poll. Would you pay more for a older desirable bow in fair condition. Or for it completely refinished?

From: fdp
Date: 08-Dec-22




Would be the same money either way for me.

From: B.T.
Date: 08-Dec-22




Most can't refinish well enough to maintain the value.

From: Ross Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member
Date: 08-Dec-22




Given a choice I would like to pay less for a vintage bow in fair (usable condition ) and refinish myself . If it needs refinishing I would prefer to do it myself .

From: ottertails
Date: 08-Dec-22




The former...I'd do my own refinishing knowing exactly what's going into it. Certain exceptions if I know the person's quality of work.

From: Babysaph Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 08-Dec-22




Most things are worth less refinished.

From: ishi4
Date: 08-Dec-22




Original finish for sure.

From: Timberline2
Date: 08-Dec-22




former

From: MStyles
Date: 08-Dec-22




They’re only original once.

From: MStyles
Date: 08-Dec-22




They’re only original once.

From: Missouribreaks
Date: 09-Dec-22




Original.

From: N Y Yankee
Date: 09-Dec-22




If original looked good, then, original. If it looked like crap and the person knows how to refinish it correctly, I'd pay more to have it it nice condition.

From: George D. Stout
Date: 09-Dec-22




Old original finish, unless it's totally beat to oblivion, then I don't want it anyway. Some scratches and dents are part of the provenance and of interest to me and allows me to think of its activity and previous owner's use. Then I don't look at it and just wonder what kind of finish they used, or other such drivel.

From: RonP
Date: 09-Dec-22




i would prefer the original finish.

From: Phil Magistro
Date: 09-Dec-22




It depends on the bow and who does the refinishing. Some bows are more desirable than others and putting the time and money into refinishing adds too much to the final cost. Refinishing a Bear Grizzly would never be worthwhile unless it was a flea market or pawn shop find. On the other hand, a good refinish of a 1960 Bear Kodiak could add to the value, especially when cracks in the glass are repaired, holes are filled or tips are replaced.

From: Dry Bones
Date: 09-Dec-22




this reads as though most of us are on the same page, and I will add that when some of these older bows are refinished, the new owner really never can know just what was wrong with the bow to begin with. Some of them do not need to be refinished as a working, usable bow, and get sold as such with a little lipstick and polish. I'll take an original condition any day, just so I know what was done. All that being said I gambled on the Pearson bow a month ago, and that bow seems as solid as any I have had, but I do not think I paid more than what the bow would have sold for before the refinish.

-Bones

From: JusPassin
Date: 09-Dec-22




Original

From: Patrick
Date: 09-Dec-22




Original so I can refinish it myself if needed. Although the price I'm willing to pay depends on the condition of the original bow and how much I have to invest to restore it. I prefer original so I know what exactly has to be done and not find surprises along the way under the previous "refinisher".

From: thekunk
Date: 09-Dec-22




Original

From: PECO2
Date: 09-Dec-22




I'm not a collector, so I would like to pay less for a beat up bow this is solid, and usable. Looks are not as important because I want to take the bow to the field and hunt with it.

From: George D. Stout
Date: 09-Dec-22




I agree PECO2, however, we are a society of aesthetics nowadays. Can't hobnob with the elite with a scratched-up, old bow. :)

From: Jim Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 09-Dec-22




No matter what you do to those so called vintage bows, they’re still old and most will blow up.

From: Phil Magistro
Date: 09-Dec-22




I don't think its fair to say most will blow up. Some do but I believe most don't. I've had three bows blow up on me since the mid-80s and all were new, custom bows. During that time I've owned and shot countless vintage bows. And for the last 10-15 years I've shot those vintage bows with low-stretch strings. All of them.

From: Brad Lehmann
Date: 09-Dec-22




Your comments are exactly why I stopped refinishing bows. No sense in trying to turn out a good job if the mindset is that it has diminished the value. Try that with your house and see what happens to the value. There is nothing special about 99.9% of the mass-produced bows from the Golden Age. That scuffed up old bow will last a lot longer if you protect the wood in it.

From: crookedstix
Date: 09-Dec-22




Refinishing the vintage bow, and reshaping or checkering the grip, is half the fun of owning it. Value schmalue--the only value I care about is how much it's worth to me.

From: Don T. Lewis
Date: 09-Dec-22




Original for me. It has more mojo that way.;)

From: Ken Schwartz
Date: 09-Dec-22




Original also for me , and if I desire to have something done then I can send it out for a quality refinish job.

Ken

From: Corax_latrans
Date: 09-Dec-22




I own 1 “vintage” bow. It looked like hell. Finish was all cloudy. Somebody here daid use a headlight polishing kit. Cleaned up really nicely with a VERY modest effort.

From what I know about “antiques”, a refinishing invariably ruins the value. For a Shooter? I think it depends more on the buyer than the bow.

So I guess I would do it if it was a bow I planned to keep - if I really thought it needed it, as I did with my Thunderbird. If I were thinking to sell it, I can’t imagine it would be a profitable proposition (if you consider the cost of labor) and for some buyers it would be a straight-up deal-breaker.

From: Babysaph Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 10-Dec-22




An old barn looks good with a coat of paint

From: bowhunt
Date: 10-Dec-22




Too much is made of it whether original or refinished on most bows.Is some appraiser gonna judge the worth either way.Is thier some special bow appraiser that sets the value.

Sure a Fred Bear Signature T.D that has just sat in its case for decades is gonna bring high $ over one thats been refinished.But most bows clearly are not a Fred Bear Signature T.D.

Sure its nice to have a 50 year old or older bow thats minty and original.Pretty rare unless its been in a collection of serious afficionados.Most have been around the block and then some.I know its the pretty lady with a few worts and pimpils etc that adds character and makes us fond of it whether we put the worts on it or not.

The main reason for a refinish is to preserve the bow from the elements and hasten its possible demise so it can remain servicable for many more years.

Thier are some amazing restorations done by guys like Bow Doc and Rich Lopez.I would love a more coveted classic bow like that.

Some bows are worth a quality refinish vs others.

For some bows a home boy job is just fine and should not effect the value.Its more about preserving it and it looks allright as wall art in the mancave





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