From: Uncle Rico
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Date: 05-Dec-22 |
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Anyone have any experience with wool clothing from this outfit? I saw their ad in Trad Bow Magazine. Checkout out their website - EXPENSIVE! Is it worth it...?
Waiting for my first Asbell piece to arrive, just curious what you all might have to say about the Sleeping Indian stuff...
Thanks for the great suggestions on prior thread regarding Asbell.
Rico in WI
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From: JusPassin
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Date: 05-Dec-22 |
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Too subjective, if you want to spend that much than it's worth it. It wouldn't be for me, as I think wool is highly over rated. From what I've seen at trad gatherings it is of high quality.
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From: jwhunter
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Date: 05-Dec-22 |
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Years of wearing wool and it is best used as a base and 2nd layer. I do not like wool for the outer layer. Its Heavy and bulky and not wind proof. I have owned KOM, Sleeping Indian, Asbell and others.
It looks cool but doesn't do the job I want it to
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From: bfisherman11
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Date: 05-Dec-22 |
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I agree about using as a mid layer. I once bought a cheaper wool jacket and bibs. I spent so much time removing the burrs I collected. I eventually sold it. I use the Asbell vest as my mid layer.
Bill
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From: PEARL DRUMS
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Date: 05-Dec-22 |
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I'd personally go away from anything wool for outer layers if function over fashion is important to you. I see you're in WI. You know what real cold weather hunting is all about. It's not just a heavy frost on the punkins :) It's blowing, bitter cold and snowy with a touch of freezing rain!
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From: Verdeburl
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Date: 05-Dec-22 |
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I too steer far away from wool. The expensive high quality stuff requires special care, and as was said it's not windproof. It can be very bulky, and I detest bulky for bowhunting. However for those who love wool, and the nostalgia of it--that's fine. It's all about personal preference. I wear an Asbell wool in the mid season in the east. I see your in WI., and I hunt the midwest. I can tell you that I have experience in the wind, and cold. There are much better garments for extreme cold, or just plain cold. Again--where you are at that cold Canadian air coming down from the north bites in hard. I'm a huge fan of Sitka Fanatic coat, bibs, and lots of well thought out layering gear under it. This year I hunted in weather that was 6*-20*F, and no issues sitting with my Sitka Fanatic gear, with layers under it. If your are gonna spend the money make sure what ever your buy has wind shear in it. Forget anything that won't stop the wind. Been there-done that. Another alternative is Cabelas 4Most wind shear if you can find it--much cheaper, and it works at stopping hard biting wind. I wish you luck in the quest for cold weather gear. I know this thread is about wool, and a specific brand--it looks nice, and looks old school, but there are far better garments, and materials in our modern world that require less care. I remember the days of laying wool stuff out flat, and being anal about it's care--screw that--those days are over for me.
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From: Versatile Hunter
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Date: 05-Dec-22 |
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Juspassin, jwhunter, Bfisherman11 and pearl Drums, what is your primary Meath of of bowhunting and where? I’m curious since you all say wool isn’t the best choice for you.
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From: Buglmin
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Date: 05-Dec-22 |
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I used Sleepimg Indian in the 80's and early 90's. Back then, it was the best of the best. But, like mentioned above, it's heavy, very heavy, and bulky. The pants never fit you tight, they were always bulky in the crouch and around the legs. And when they got wet, they got even heavier!! And if they shrank, good bye wool clothing...
Since Sitka first came out, guys found out about high performance clothing without the weight and bulk, a great athletic fit without the baggy, and clothes that dried quick when wet.
I still have my Sleeping Indian and my wool Weatherby jackets and vests, but I don't hunt in them at all!!
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From: PEARL DRUMS
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Date: 05-Dec-22 |
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Mike, I'm a 100% stand hunter in northern Michigan. My few reasons, if you care to know.
1. Heavy and bulky 2. Doesn't stop the lightest breeze 3. Got tired of 3-5 layers piled up under it 4. Got tired of not being able to wash it properly every few years 5. Constantly pulling, plucking and combing burrs off it
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From: Yewbender
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Date: 05-Dec-22 |
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I can’t help you with Sleeping Indian Wool other then i heard it is good. I have KOM wool and many other wool brands that i use. SI and KOM are more $$$$$ now then many years ago. My KOM outfit(pants and shirt jacket) was around $500 new.
Yes there are cons to wool as stated above but it’s not that bad. All i where is wool here in Pa and i have no issues. As to care i don’t wash my wool clothing but i have washed my KOM but no longer do. Yes it can get heavy if cought in a good rain but it will still keep you warm, if calling for rain i’ll stay dry inside and not hunt. As to wind you can add a light nylon jacket over base layers that will stop wind. If really cold and windy i use a puff jacket. They are light and pack small and only use it while sitting. The best thing with using all wool is if you get all sweaty walking it doesn’t take long for it to dry unlike other materials. Wool is not for everyone but it’s all i use.
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From: reddogge
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Date: 05-Dec-22 |
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Spend the money on Sitka. You won't be sorry. It goes on sale occasionally.
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From: wytex
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Date: 05-Dec-22 |
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Get a nice heavy shirt and coat, pants are too heavy. Vests are great for layering. I hunt in KOM every year and have for years. My KOM Lined Bowman is very warm and what I go to in extreme weather. I bought a SI shirt on ebay that was like brand new, love it as well. With the right layers under it is very warm. Yes they gather moisture but when I'm wearing mine it is snow and it just brushed off, it doesn't soak in. I been washing my KOM for years, about 30 years now, and it is still in great shape. For cold weather hunting it is great stuff, SI or KOM. Look on ebay for deals.
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From: RonP
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Date: 05-Dec-22 |
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there is a thread near the top on Bowsite right now titled 'cold weather clothing review'.
click your mouse over that way and take a look. there might be something you find helpful.
good luck.
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From: Corax_latrans
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Date: 05-Dec-22 |
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You guys just make sure you let me know if you accidentally shrink your wool to where it won’t fit you anymore!
I love wool. I’ve been out all day long in temps well below zero, and it’s the damndest thing how iced-up wool can insulate and be impervious to wind at the same time….
But (JMO) it’s only That Good when you’re moving at least a bit. For sitting up a tree, wind-proof is the deal-maker.
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From: Tree
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Date: 05-Dec-22 |
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Give a look at the Cabelas wooltimate with wind shear, I think it’s a very good product but I’m not in Wisconsin. I dont need it often here in southern Pa until late season but, I did wear my vest today. Temp was in high teens this morning and I set till 12:00.
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From: Nemophilist
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Date: 05-Dec-22 |
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Not all wool hunting clothes are the same. I have two camo wool Columbia outfits and two camo wool Woolrich outfits. I've had them for over 25 years. The Columbia outfits are parkas and bibs and are very thick and I have had no problems with them keeping out the wind and keeping me warm. The two Woolrich outfits are jackets and pants and thinner for milder temperatures. I've had no problems being warm with wool and wool is very quiet and doesn't reflect light like some fabrics do. Pictured is me wearing one of my camo Columbia wool parkas.
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From: Nemophilist
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Date: 05-Dec-22 |
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Don't know where that picture came from. "LOL"
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From: Yeller
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Date: 05-Dec-22 |
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I have king of wool bowman coat and bibs loved them but never wear then m anymore. No real reason just don’t
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From: Babysaph
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Date: 05-Dec-22 |
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I have a cheap Walmart coat that is as warm as my wool stuff
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From: Ramhunter
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Date: 06-Dec-22 |
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Love my Kingof the Mountain wool. Colorado, November 20, 2022, 13,700 ft.
You can keep your petroleum based synthetics.
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From: Jim D
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Date: 06-Dec-22 |
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I like my SI, warm and quiet. Found a used set in my size and saved some dineros.
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From: crookedstix
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Date: 06-Dec-22 |
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That banquet of bugs pic has gotta be an old Larry Hatfield photo from one of his trips to Cambodia.
All of this wool-bashing has me very, very close to writing up a few people for trad violations. I just busted a guy last week who was wearing one of those city-boy "down sweaters" that looks like it's made out of bicycle innertubes; some of you are getting dangerously close to receiving citations like the one I gave him.
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From: Andy Man
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Date: 06-Dec-22 |
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Old camo Pendilton jacket and pants are wind proof and with a down vest under I have been as warm as I ever needed to be
Have a lighter sports woolen camo plad bowman jacket that I wear most time with a down vest under in late winter and usually enough
really dosnt take much to keep me warm
its the heat that gets me
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From: Andy Man
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Date: 06-Dec-22 |
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this bowman wool jacket 90% of the time
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From: BigJim
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Date: 06-Dec-22 |
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I have king of the mountain and grey wolf in every configuration possible. Only the unlined garments let the wind through.. I don't get to wear it as much as I would like in Georgia, but when I go out west or to canada, it is my go to clothes. Absolutely love it for it's warmth and quietness. Seems to act like a scent diffuser too, but I can't prove that. Sleeping indian was... or is of the same caliber. I have a couple of the asbell wool garments. Rarely ever wear them. They seem like they let in all of the wind and keep in little of the heat. But hey, they are cheap!
The nicer wool garments are a much tighter weave and don't let in near as much air. They also don't cause "itch" when in contact with bear skin.. I'm told this is because it is virgin wool. Whatever that means. BigJim
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From: reddogge
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Date: 06-Dec-22 |
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I posted this picture from years ago but for a wind block under your wool, I would wear these golf wind shirts. They work.
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From: Babysaph
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Date: 06-Dec-22 |
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Yea the Abel stuff is junk compared to the Sleeping Indian
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From: Babysaph
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Date: 06-Dec-22 |
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Yea the Abel stuff is junk compared to the Sleeping Indian
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From: Babysaph
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Date: 06-Dec-22 |
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Good point. Didn’t mean to sound so harsh. You get what you pay for
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From: Versatile Hunter
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Date: 06-Dec-22 |
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PEARL, that makes sense. I primarily hunt from the ground so just a couple of light wool layers work well. They breath while you are hiking and keep you warm while moving slow. On top of that, they are quiet. The key difference is, I am moving a decent amount throughout the day. I spent 10 days on Kodiak island last month with a temperature of about 30 degrees and it got down into the low 20s while I was there. A merino base layer, thin wool outer layer and wool vest was perfect for stalking and still hunting.
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From: PEARL DRUMS
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Date: 06-Dec-22 |
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I can see that being ideal for you, Mike. Moving, even slowly makes quite a difference in any weather. I'm jealous of the 10 days you hunted Kodiak.
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From: droptine59
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Date: 07-Dec-22 |
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Mike,
I have owned and used it all from back in the day. Loved it as i was younger and spent all day in the tree.
Now as a senior i have gravitated to the high-performance stuff from Sitka and Kuiu. I won't go back, its lighter, warmer, and less bulk. I can sit and draw, stand and draw, I am dry, warm, and comfy. Just my 2 cents
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From: Billy Knight
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Date: 08-Dec-22 |
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I have Sleeping Indian "Archer Pullover" with the bino pocket and zip side pocket,winter camo. Got the bomber hat too. Bought in 92. Still great condition,used often under the right weather.Only wore it one time in the hitch hikers.
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From: bfisherman11
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Date: 08-Dec-22 |
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To answer the question posed to me, I'm a treestand hunter. I hunt in WI and we have burrs in and around our woods. No way to avoid them. I love wool and use it as my midlayer. My outerwear is something that sheds burrs better and is more windproof.
Wool is great, keeps you warm even if it's wet. I used it as an outer layer in AK on my bou hunt. I saw no burrs on the tundra so my wool wore great. If I hunted in an area free from burrs my choice might be different.
Bill
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