From: tradslinger
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Date: 03-Dec-22 |
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Technolgy, it's not quite finished but I had to try it out. had one tree that fit the bill, the others were too big for me to get the strap around. Once I got the strap part lined out and the seat sucked down into the tree, it became a very stable seat. I still haven't lightened the seat but this was just to see how it would do.
First off, the big roots on the ground meant little to me other than where to put my feet. I could place the seat pretty much anywhere that I wanted it. I also was the one to determine the height of the seat to where it was perfect for me. Actual hanging time, maybe a minute because of being something new for me. It goes up super quick and very quiet.
I sat in it for about five minutes, being a little fidgety to check for noises or other problems. Because of my seat size being a little bit large, I had the option of sitting out away from the tree or using the tree for back support which I really liked. I didn't even have a cushion on it yet but really like it.
Cost? Scrap materials and a strap that is adjustable. I did put one eyehook bolt in for the S hook of the strap to hook onto. This could make the only real noise if was to bang it around. I used a strap, most use a simple rope. The only downfall would be if there were no tree at all to use, then my other stools would work fine.
It is totally hard to argue with the ease and simplicity of one of these tree seats. So quick and easy to hang or take down. The wife had to come and sit on it. I got the look and so another smaller version will be made for her as well. In fact, I will make several of them and probably give some as gifts to family. A big thumbs up from me. Jerry
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From: cut it out
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Date: 03-Dec-22 |
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I need to make one one of these days. Pics would be appreciated once done.
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From: Andy Man
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Date: 03-Dec-22 |
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that style seat works great for whan needing something light and easy to carry and perty comfortable
I made mine from scavenged LW hang on stand parts
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From: boatbuilder
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Date: 03-Dec-22 |
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I made 2 out of 5/8" ply and a 6' piece of 1/2" poly rope, now my expensive millennium tree stays in the garage, they are lighter and easier to maneuver in.
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From: Andy Man
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Date: 03-Dec-22 |
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but nothing I found beats this
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From: tradslinger
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Date: 03-Dec-22 |
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just too low for me, it would have been awesome years ago but not now
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From: Yellah Nocks
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Date: 03-Dec-22 |
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I made one that folded in half with a piano hinge plus high density foam about 5/8" thick, and a solid core poly rope. Sold it to a guy on AT awhile back. Very comfortable, had figured I would still be climbing,rather than ground hunting but gosh the only hunting in my future is sadly gun with these shoulders. And that's okay. God knows what He is doing.
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From: fdp
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Date: 03-Dec-22 |
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Torges seats work equally as well when gun hunting as bow hunting.
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From: fisherick
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Date: 03-Dec-22 |
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This is the seat I made 1/2" plywood, 1/2" diamond braided poly rope, with 1/2" foam pad glued on.
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From: Desperado
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Date: 03-Dec-22 |
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EXCELLENT !!!!! I have made several for my self & as gifts for hunting pals !!!!!!!!! Tradslinger is 100% correct !!!!! Des
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From: soap creek
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Date: 03-Dec-22 |
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I think they're great. Especially if on the move and not knowing for sure where you're going to sit for a hunt. I hinged mine in the middle like mentioned earlier. I also take a foam pad for a little cushion. When folded it fits in my day pack nicely. Pretty handy.
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From: cut it out
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Date: 04-Dec-22 |
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I have one question. Do you just tie the rope in a knot to adjust the length for
Tree diameters to keep from pulling through? I’ve never researched them just see pics time to time of them and I wanna make one over Xmas break.
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From: kaw369
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Date: 04-Dec-22 |
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I have made several in the past and use them in multiple spots I like to hunt. I often just leave near a tree I like to use in that area. I use a double hole on one side that allows you to form a loop and then pass the end through. Your weight actually holds it firm.
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From: Red Beastmaster
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Date: 04-Dec-22 |
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1st opinion? I don't like them. Believe me I've tried, I really tried, but I just don't care for them.
Bulky to carry. I never could come up with a good way to transport the thing. When I'm moving through the woods I want the ability to shoot and not be burdened with a board and rope in my hand.
They take way too long to set up. Round and round the tree, getting the rope just right, everything slipping, doing it all over again, sitting on it, getting back up to adjust it, now it's too high or too low, adjusting it yet again, arrgh!
Noisy! All that nonsense getting them set isn't done quietly. Then when you put weight on them the bark pops LOUDLY as the board bites and the rope slips and eventually grips. Now you are too low and you have to start all over again.
Uncomfortable. I mean you are sitting on a board. OK, so you add a foam pad that's yet another thing you gotta carry. The angle of the seat soon starts biting into the back of your thighs, so you shift around trying to get comfortable, and the bark POPS AGAIN!
I use a tree seat like the one Big Jim used to sell. I attached a thick foam pad and a strap to sling it over my shoulder or back. No problem carrying it or shooting. It simply leans against any tree and you sit down. No noise, takes two seconds, comfortable. DONE!
I have 3 or 4 Torges seats gathering dust in my garage. They just aren't for me and you will never convince me otherwise.
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From: tradslinger
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Date: 04-Dec-22 |
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the double hole on one side is a winner for sure. made a second seat really quickly this morning in just a few minutes. A piece of scrap treated plywood, a skill saw and a drill plus some rope. I actually went ahead and used a bandsaw on the cut for the tree side but I didn't on the first one, just two angled cuts with saw. These are crazy easy to make and use. Really wish that I had been making them 40 years ago
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From: Ramjet
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Date: 04-Dec-22 |
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I made 2 seats this year and used a prusik knot to adjust to tree size. I actually found it on an older thread from this site.
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From: Andy Man
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Date: 04-Dec-22 |
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the one I did is really quick and easy to attach
just slip the loop over the versa button and pull the strap through their clamp buckle
just like their stand/steps
to carry I just hang over my shoulder and ride it beside my back quiver or under my right arm
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From: Tarpon120
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Date: 04-Dec-22 |
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I have always been kind of curious about this seat and I'm surprised that some entrepreneurial type has not worked to come up with a marketable model.
I used several different types of ground seats and I like all of them but I'm old and old school and I still love a tree stand.
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From: treetopper
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Date: 04-Dec-22 |
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Tarpon,
It would probably be a tough sell in a very competitive market. Add in equipment, marketing costs, liability insurance, labor, license fees to utilize those fancy patented camo patterns everyone wants, etc., etc.
Probably the biggest reason it wouldn't sell is its simplicity of design and easy availability of cheap materials to make it. And no master's degree in engineering or Master Carpenter certification required.
The average Joe with three thumbs can make one in less than a half hour for around 10 bucks. Or three hours and spend 20 bucks; his choice. JMHO.
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From: tradslinger
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Date: 05-Dec-22 |
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I went hog wild, made four seats for Xtra big guys, three medium seats for just large adults and four smaller seats for the younger grandkids. No money in any of them...yet, I plan to get some new rope for them. All but three will be X mas gifts. Can't wait to get the younger kids out sitting on a tree decked out in camo/Gillie suit. All four of the younger kids are chomping at the bit to get out there. So we will be having a lot of "practice sits" in the woods by the house. The wife has her own now, I have two. She is pretty excited about getting the younger kids out there.
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From: Yewbender
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Date: 05-Dec-22 |
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Works great and light to carry! Plywood and closed cell foam.
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From: Longcruise
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Date: 10-Dec-22 |
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I have one with just about every hunt. Mine straps to the back of my day pack in less than 15 seconds. Easy to carrying and quick to set up. I might cover up to five miles in a day of elk hunting and it's not inconvenient in the least. Also have a thick foam pad. At first I had some trouble with the rope slipping down but it turned out i was looping too high on the tree.
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From: Bigdog 21
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Date: 11-Dec-22 |
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Got a torges works good. Also another place to find cheap tree seats is old hanging tree stands cut the top off. For a seat.
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From: Babysaph
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Date: 11-Dec-22 |
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I agree with Andy Man. Noting like the pack seats
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From: ottertails
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Date: 11-Dec-22 |
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Have made a bunch of those things since way back when Dean let us in on it. Killed a few deer using them. Oldest grandson took his first deer from one. I made a few different styles, some even with backrests. Stashed several in the woods over the years...found out squirrels like them too.
I need to make more.
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From: hawkeye in PA
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Date: 11-Dec-22 |
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I made one after reading this thread. Haven't got to use it a lot but like it so far. Going to try the hinge idea next.
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From: Hunter Dave
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Date: 11-Dec-22 |
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They are cheap to make, easy to pack, and okay for a couple of hours at a time, but that's where it ends for me.
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From: tradslinger
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Date: 11-Dec-22 |
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I will have a thick cushion for sure, my butt and lower back demand it after an hour
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From: Kanati
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Date: 11-Dec-22 |
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Can someone post a underside pic on how you do the rope. What rope is best?
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From: Bugle-up
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Date: 11-Dec-22 |
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Usually a 3/8" poly rope.
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From: Bugle-up
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Date: 12-Dec-22 |
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I have made this offer before, but I will send a pattern for this tree seat to anyone interested. Also I have some extra sets of the metal teeth which increase the gripping power. The CNC guy charges me about $25 for the teeth so I would ask for $30 shipped. Of course minus the metal teeth, you can make a seat for no cost other than the rope.
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From: Kanati
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Date: 12-Dec-22 |
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Thanks!
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From: Tarpon120
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Date: 12-Dec-22 |
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I've always loved gadgets and tree seats like these fall into that definition for me. I have several seats and they're all pretty good but I've never used a Torgas seat. Like many others, I don't have a shop or a lot of tools and it sure would be nice if someone came up with a commercial rendition.
My go to seat has become a sit on the ground cushion with a great back rest. It's large enough for my well-fed-behind and it keeps me dry and because it's already on the ground there is no danger of me falling out of it if I should nod off.
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From: tradslinger
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Date: 12-Dec-22 |
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Yeah, no falling but it is also the getting up for me LOL. As I told the man at the VA hospital a while back. He kept calling this guy's name to come on and he was just very slow. So I told the VA guy, "He's running now!" The new norm for me sucks but it is what it is.
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From: R65
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Date: 12-Dec-22 |
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How about just using the seat of the LW hand climber? Think I will give it a try today and see how it works out...
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From: George D. Stout
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Date: 12-Dec-22 |
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I agree with Red Beastmaster, wouldn't give you a nickel for a barrel full of them. :)
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From: Bugle-up
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Date: 12-Dec-22 |
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George, you're a party pooper...LOL.
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From: tradslinger
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Date: 12-Dec-22 |
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ah, but we are all different with different likes and needs. That is why what works great for one doesn't mean that everyone will like it, like bows. it is what it is. I remember using a board to stand on in a tree and loving it compared to a limb
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From: hvac tech
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Date: 12-Dec-22 |
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The seat is ok but i did put a cushion on because the plywood is hard after a little while.Also i leave the seat at the tree and just take it home after the season . Band chairs are much better i have a couple of them when we we were cleaning out comm center.They are narrow and smaller than a regular chair .
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From: Red Beastmaster
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Date: 12-Dec-22 |
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R65
The Lone Wolf hand climber is great. I used mine when I couldn't find a climbable tree. I sold the stand. Should have kept the hand climber for a seat.
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From: Bugle-up
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Date: 12-Dec-22 |
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Yeah, a pad is definitely a plus. And George, I was just funnin' with ya.
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From: George D. Stout
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Date: 12-Dec-22 |
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No problem Bugle-up, I'm just to lunkheaded to take the time to get it right, but usually where I want to sit, there isn't any decent trees...mostly in a briar tangle. ??
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From: George D. Stout
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Date: 12-Dec-22 |
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Don't know where those question marks came from.
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From: Boker
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Date: 12-Dec-22 |
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Id like to build one of these ti have but the millennium 300 is awesome ground seat.
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From: tradslinger
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Date: 12-Dec-22 |
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it is all about what fits your needs best. If I was able to at all, the pac seat would be probably what I would use.
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From: Bugle-up
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Date: 12-Dec-22 |
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Osage, that is advisable although I have also dropped to a knee if I have cover which blocks the deer's vision as it approaches. When dropping to a knee I have opportunity to reposition. I always clear out a wide swath of leaves around me when I settle in just for that purpose.
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From: soap creek
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Date: 12-Dec-22 |
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This is what I do with mine for convenient carrying.
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From: soap creek
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Date: 12-Dec-22 |
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I also take this foam pad. It all fits in my day pack. If not I just since it up on the outside of pack. No big deal.
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From: tradslinger
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Date: 12-Dec-22 |
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now that looks like a great idea Soap Creek. makes it very compact and easy to carry.
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