From: Uncle Rico
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Date: 14-Nov-22 |
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Looking for some help from some of you more experienced arrow building guys. I am going to be fletching up some new arrows that are small diameter carbons. I know that I can get a 4 inch helical fletch on them (barely). I am but sure 5 inchers will work if they are helical. I’m running out of 4 inchers and I have a whole bunch/100’s of 5 inchers.
Can you make 5 inchers fit on a small diameter/.204 arrow?
Is there any problem with taking the 5 inchers and cutting off some of the end of the fletch to shorten it? Any tips or advice appreciated…
Rico in WI
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From: fdp
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Date: 14-Nov-22 |
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There is no problem cutting them down, lots of us have done that for years. And yes...you can get them to make good contact and seat well on a small diameter shaft by either decreasing the amount of helical (if your jig allows you to) or just going with offset fletching which is all you really need any way.
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From: Bigdog 21
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Date: 14-Nov-22 |
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Difference in 4" and 5" is just the length. Yes they will work fine.
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From: Bigdog 21
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Date: 14-Nov-22 |
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5" helical on gold tip 400s
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From: Uncle Rico
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Date: 14-Nov-22 |
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Can I adjust a bit zen berger to make them easier to fit? I have two of them in right helical no have never messed with them from factory setting….
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From: Uncle Rico
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Date: 14-Nov-22 |
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Can I adjust a bit zen berger to make them easier to fit? I have two of them in right helical no have never messed with them from factory setting….
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From: Orion
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Date: 14-Nov-22 |
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Yes, you can adjust the helical, but it is very difficult to get a 5-inch feather on a .204 diameter shaft in a helical configuration. I'd go with fdp's advice. Either cut them to 4 inches or get a straight clamp and fletch them straight or slight offset.
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From: 2 bears
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Date: 14-Nov-22 |
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You can chop them but if you just shorten by cutting the quill with a knife or scissors you will change the shape. They won't be banana,shield,or parabolic anymore. They will be the old style traditional. >>>----> Ken
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From: M60gunner
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Date: 14-Nov-22 |
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I have chopped 5” feathers down to 4” before. I even made them parabolic from shield cut. Took a couple to set and mark the chopper all turned out fine. Not sure you can get enough helical on those skinny shafts. I usually put a shaft into the jig then a feather into the clamp, loosen the jig and adjust until the whole feather is sitting on shaft. What comes out is what it is.
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From: Chairman
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Date: 14-Nov-22 |
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Use a straight clamp. They will spin with feathers
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From: jaz5833
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Date: 14-Nov-22 |
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Jim Easton used an arrow shooting machine to test left wing, right wing, various offsets, and helicals, to see how each performed. The results were limited but interesting.
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From: Corax_latrans
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Date: 14-Nov-22 |
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“You can chop them but if you just shorten by cutting the quill with a knife or scissors you will change the shape. They won't be banana,shield,or parabolic anymore. They will be the old style traditional.”
I saw this post earlier in the day, and I was wondering about it…
Yep, cutting off the rear-most inch would look the most “traditional”.
Personally, I’m not crazy about the way that the”traditional” cut looks, and I absolutely HATE the amount of noise that they make in flight; I’m pretty well convinced that they are at least as loud as flu-flus and maybe more so.
But I have a bag full of 5 1/2”, relatively low-profile parabolics…. and they’re REALLY long! So I’m kinda debating… should I just fletch as normal and trim off that very low front end, or would you recommend bending a ribbon and burning them into something more conventional? Pretty sure I would end up deviating from the original geometry (or is it algebra??) of the parabola…
And so as to avoid hijacking the thread… Would this work for the OP (cutting off the fat end) or would you recommend that he by himself a template and one of those rolling cutters? Or a chopper. Seems like if you had sufficient inventory, it would be kind of a no-brainer to just chop them into a length/shape that you DO want…
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From: Linecutter
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Date: 14-Nov-22 |
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All you need for good arrow rotation is 2-3 degrees of off set. Which isn't very much on a shaft that small. You can get 5 inch fletches to work. Or get a 4 inch Lil'Chopper and re-cut them. DANNY
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From: Steve P
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Date: 15-Nov-22 |
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I have 5" rw helical feathers on some .166 ID shafts. You can adjust your jig and should have no problem fletching the .204s.
Steve
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From: Steve P
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Date: 15-Nov-22 |
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Bottom arrow is a Black Eagle Instinct (.166).
Steve
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From: WhiteOaks
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Date: 15-Nov-22 |
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I’ve used a chopper to cut 5.5 down to 4.
Works pretty good.
I tried to fletch axis several times without success until I went to a straight clamp with a little offset. I was pleased with the results doing it that way.
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From: 2 bears
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Date: 15-Nov-22 |
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You are right that cut is noisy. I like the looks & will use it on practice arrows but will never hunt with it.
Another thread out about deer suddenly jumping the string for no explained reason. Folks will take pains to quieten their bows then for some reason shoot a whistling arrow at jumpy deer. I tired of debating it. >>>----> Ken
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