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Risers with two plunger hole options

Messages posted to thread:
olddogrib 08-Aug-22
Brian waters 08-Aug-22
DanaC 08-Aug-22
olddogrib 08-Aug-22
Viper 08-Aug-22
olddogrib 08-Aug-22
aromakr 08-Aug-22
longbowguy 09-Aug-22
longbowguy 09-Aug-22
DanaC 09-Aug-22
Viper 09-Aug-22
Brian waters 09-Aug-22
Brian waters 09-Aug-22
From: olddogrib
Date: 08-Aug-22




Okay, my mind is not the "steel trap" that it used to be. I used to know the answer. On risers with two plunger hole options what are the advantages of one over the other, unless you just want to use the "aft" location as an overdraw?

From: Brian waters
Date: 08-Aug-22




I always use the fore hole as a bolt hole for the rest, and the aft hole is usually the plunger hole.

From: DanaC
Date: 08-Aug-22




Mine has one above the other, both located above the deepest part of the grip. I shoot off the shelf with a plunger using low hole, off a rest with a plunger using higher hole.

(Morrison G3 ILF)

From: olddogrib
Date: 08-Aug-22




Brian, that sound familiar. I think they became popular originally on compound risers when the flip/drop away "launcher" style rests got popular. They needed one hole to mount, but gave you the option of using one outside support with a Berger Button/plunger in the other hole. Surprisingly, I 've had good luck on hunting set- ups with stick-on Hoyt Super rests and Bear Weather rests in conjunction with a plunger and that combo only requires one hole. Your favorite rest that you left on the Galaxy is screwed all the way in. When I checked alignment with Beiter gauges on my limbs, my arrows are sitting a bit further outside of center than they probably have to be (I know slightly left is recommended), but they're borderline stiff .400's and hitting slightly left (but straight), so I may try another rest combo that will allow me to get them a little closer to the riser.

From: Viper
Date: 08-Aug-22




old -

The second plunger hole is used for A. the bolt for a bolt on rest like the AAE FreeFlyte or B. For fine tuning, as it changes the dynamic spine/length of the arrow. (Nearest hole = stiffer; farther hole weaker.)

Viper out.

From: olddogrib
Date: 08-Aug-22




So it sounds like if my arrows are borderline stiff, which 400's are at my draw weight but are hitting straight with good flight (my Border Hex 6's like 'em) then using the second plunger hole might take care of the slightly left of spot group issue (I'm RH) with no further tweaking? If all my shortcomings could be solved so easily. My bi-lateral carpal tunnel surgery went splendidly, but I went back to work way too soon. I had another post-op visit to get reassurance I hadn't done permanent damage. My advice to those that are considering it...be brutally honest with the doc. He told me when people say they "use their hands lot" on the job he envisions folks tapping away at a keyboard...not pulling 300 # boxes of tobacco stem by-product up a roller bed! He said if I had shared that, they'd have put me out a lot longer. No problem, come Sept. and the archery season I'm retiring from 41 years in the work force...wooo hooo! Disclaimer: only the last 4 have been at that h**l, waiting for my bride to turn 65 because I refused to pay what my ridiculous retiree health care premiums would have been and I retired from a company with excellent benefits!

From: aromakr Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member
Date: 08-Aug-22




It has absolutely NO effect on the dynamic spine of the arrow. The spine of and arrow is the length of the arrow, only from BOP to the nock, period!!!

Bob

From: longbowguy
Date: 09-Aug-22




Well, it might - a little. - lbg

From: longbowguy
Date: 09-Aug-22




Well, it might - a little. - lbg

From: DanaC
Date: 09-Aug-22




Arrows slightly stiff, go up in point weight first. I keep field points handy from 100 to 200 grains. Often wind up with 145's up front.

From: Viper
Date: 09-Aug-22




old -

The difference is spine is minor, and unless you are shooting and able to tune at a fairly high level it won't be easy to see.

Bob -

Ah, changing the plunger position changes effective length of the arrow from nock to contact point on the bow. Kinda like doing spine tests on 26" vs 28" centers. Yeah, the difference is there. OR guys do this all the time, but thanks for your input.

Viper out.

From: Brian waters
Date: 09-Aug-22

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Richard, if you prefer to shoot off the shelf like how i sent you the riser, a great option is this adjustable sideplate called the accutune from "the push archery.com". Works really well, and will get closer to the riser than the screw i sent with the riser. Might have to swap the plastic washer with a fender washer as i did.

From: Brian waters
Date: 09-Aug-22

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