Traditional Archery Discussions on the Leatherwall


Shooting left

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Bearcaller101 05-Aug-22
fdp 05-Aug-22
2 bears 05-Aug-22
2 bears 05-Aug-22
Pa Steve 05-Aug-22
fdp 05-Aug-22
Bearcaller101 05-Aug-22
fdp 05-Aug-22
Orion 05-Aug-22
Bearcaller101 06-Aug-22
Jack Whitmrie jr 06-Aug-22
2Wild Bill 06-Aug-22
fdp 06-Aug-22
Tim Finley 06-Aug-22
Corax_latrans 06-Aug-22
elkster 06-Aug-22
Mechanic 06-Aug-22
fdp 06-Aug-22
Babysaph 06-Aug-22
Bearcaller101 06-Aug-22
2Wild Bill 06-Aug-22
fdp 06-Aug-22
From: Bearcaller101
Date: 05-Aug-22




Ok so here's the deal, I've been shooting a new ilf rig, my set up is 64" recurve center cut 3/16" past center. Bow is at 45# I draw 29.5". So I'm confused as to my situation, I constantly shoot 3-4" left of my aim point, I'm gap shooting or some form of it. I have tried pushing the arrow left of the riser that changed nothing I've taken the strike plate off and shot with the arrow inside the string and still shoots left. I've tried 500 340 and 400 shafts. I have 175 points up front arrows are full length. Bare shaft hits with my fletched. I know it's gotta be form so I've been really concentrating on form. I'd like to say I've got that perfect but I don't. My groups are pretty good average 4" at 20 yards just left of my aim point. Any ideas of what to try?

From: fdp
Date: 05-Aug-22




You aren't correctly aligned and you aren't aligning the entire arrow from string to point with point of aim.

In other words you are aiming the bow and not the arrow.

From: 2 bears
Date: 05-Aug-22




With all the facts presented you are aiming left. Can you sight down the shaft? The nock end is apparently to the right of the point. Your anchor needs to move to the left more under your eye. >>>----> Ken

From: 2 bears
Date: 05-Aug-22




FDP We must have been typing at the same time. >>>---> Ken

From: Pa Steve
Date: 05-Aug-22




Exactly what Ken said.

From: fdp
Date: 05-Aug-22




Ken I do believe you are right. :)

From: Bearcaller101
Date: 05-Aug-22




More info on my anchor my pointer finger touching my cheek bone and my middle finger in the corner of my mouth. Feather under my nose at full draw. My bow arm is usually my biggest issue Im dropping the bow arm down to the right if I don't really concentrate on it. I feel it's form for sure.

From: fdp
Date: 05-Aug-22




Aim the arrow. Get the whole arrow under your eye like Ken said.

From: Orion Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 05-Aug-22




If what Ken and fdp said about changing your anchor doesn't work, turn your head (or perhaps your whole body) more toward the target. There's a good possibility your head position rather than anchor is causing you to look across your arrow rather than over it. Turning your head more toward the target will enable you to look over/down the shaft better, ie, have better alignment. Maybe it's just another way of saying the same thing.

From: Bearcaller101
Date: 06-Aug-22




Thanks everyone I will be testing these ideas out this weekend. I know by my arrows grouping I'm doing something right at least haha.

From: Jack Whitmrie jr
Date: 06-Aug-22




My first question would be "have you did an eye dominance test"?

From: 2Wild Bill
Date: 06-Aug-22




"and shot with the arrow inside the string and still shoots left"

That statement has me wondering if Jack is right about eye dominance. Are you right handed and left eye dominant?

As a gap shooter my self, with my middle finger in the corner of my mouth, I find that I have to cant my bow to the right to bring the nock end of the shaft below my dominant eye. I suspect you are holding the bow more verticle and the nock end of the shaft is entering your peripheral vision from the right.

I cannot imagine right eye dominant, right handed, and seeing the arrow "inside" the string. Try this, assuming you are right handed, close your left eye and shoot.

"My bow arm is usually my biggest issue Im dropping the bow arm down to the right if I don't really concentrate on it."

Make sure you are pushing the bow towards the target when you release.

From: fdp
Date: 06-Aug-22




Seeing the arrow inside the string is known as shooting through the "bow window". It has been around and known for eons in archery.

It may, or not have anything to do with eye dominance.

From: Tim Finley Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 06-Aug-22




I was having the same problem so I stuck k a white stick in the ground about three feet from my target and shot at it, so far no more left shots .

From: Corax_latrans
Date: 06-Aug-22




I got so much better just by shooting at old aluminums and bamboo garden stakes. Definitely one of those “If I’d known then” moments….

From: elkster
Date: 06-Aug-22




Tim and Corax, are you both saying aiming at a stake is different than a bullseye and will cause you to align differently?

From: Mechanic
Date: 06-Aug-22




You’re probably not putting your eye over the arrow if you’re canting. Are you reaching the anchor point with your back muscles? Probably not.

From: fdp
Date: 06-Aug-22




It is amazing that just a very few years ago when someone .entioned aiming the arrow, making sure the whole arrow is pointed at the target, shoot a vertical line or something of that sort they would be laughed off the post.

How things change........

From: Babysaph Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 06-Aug-22




True that fdp. Everyone has a gimmick now. Remember when Asbell wrote those books on instinctive shooting?

From: Bearcaller101
Date: 06-Aug-22




I am left eye dominate but keep it closed like I do shooting a gun. But I think it's back tension or bow arm mostly. I. Thinking ok throwing a pin sight on to see if my form is it or just a sight picture that's off. I shot this morning purposely aiming the outer edge of my shaft to the right of the bull and was able to put them in the center. But it was very strange to hold off to hit what I was aiming at.

From: 2Wild Bill
Date: 06-Aug-22




Left eye dominant, and when do you close that left eye to shoot? You could be establishing your form with the left eye open and then closing to shoot,yes, no?

Best bet for consistant accuracy is to shoot left handed with both eyes open.

If you must shoot right handed, bring the top of the bow to your right and be sure the nock end of the arrow is below your right eye and the shaft is aligned straight to the target.

From: fdp
Date: 06-Aug-22




You said you had a plunger so move the arrow so you can aim with the middle of it. Then you're done....if your alignment stays the same.





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