Traditional Archery Discussions on the Leatherwall


I got scamed

Messages posted to thread:
sbschindler 05-Aug-22
GUTPILEPA 05-Aug-22
fdp 05-Aug-22
South Farm 05-Aug-22
B.T. 05-Aug-22
sbschindler 05-Aug-22
Vaquero 45 05-Aug-22
trad_bowhunter1965 05-Aug-22
sbschindler 05-Aug-22
1buckurout 05-Aug-22
Stick Hippie 05-Aug-22
longshot1959 05-Aug-22
Babysaph 05-Aug-22
MGF 05-Aug-22
2 bears 05-Aug-22
bowwild 05-Aug-22
Babysaph 05-Aug-22
Aeronut 06-Aug-22
fdp 06-Aug-22
B.T. 06-Aug-22
longshot1959 06-Aug-22
Foggy Mountain 07-Aug-22
Foggy Mountain 07-Aug-22
From: sbschindler
Date: 05-Aug-22




I've been looking for a set of limbs for my Toelke Lynx for a long time now, I decided to go all out with the classifieds on several different archery forms I put a want add for the limbs on the Traditional archery society and got several responses within an hour or 2, I checked in a few of them and all sorts of red flags popped up but one of them seemed legit, and when I got into the transaction his name changed from a normal name to this unusual Arabic name, well I had already sent the 200 bucks and he has disappeared its been a week. So I'm sure I'm screwed,,

From: GUTPILEPA
Date: 05-Aug-22




SCUM BAG!!

From: fdp
Date: 05-Aug-22




What form of payment did you use, did you talk to the person prior to the transaction?

I hate when that happens.

From: South Farm
Date: 05-Aug-22




With any luck it's the guy we took out with a drone last week!

From: B.T.
Date: 05-Aug-22




It's best to search handles and see if they are really traditional archers. Many here go back well over a decade, it's called a track record.

From: sbschindler
Date: 05-Aug-22




Yeah I made several mistakes I'm just not use to dealing with dishonest people, lesson learned, the one thing i did learn was that this leatherwall is a good place to do business

From: Vaquero 45
Date: 05-Aug-22




This has always been a concern of mine . In these times all types of scams seem to incress , hope it can be traced . Like someone here asked , how did you pay for it ?

Thanks for the heads up so maybe other excellent people like yourself don't get screwed / burned .

Its certainly becomeing more and more a truely sick world . And thats comeing from a very positive person . God bless Ya Steve !!!

From: trad_bowhunter1965 Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 05-Aug-22




Sorry to hear that, I thought was screwed on and eBay transaction and eBay took care of it .

From: sbschindler
Date: 05-Aug-22




I used paypal is there any recourse ??

From: 1buckurout
Date: 05-Aug-22




Yes, if you used "goods and services." Paypal will refund your money.

From: Stick Hippie
Date: 05-Aug-22




Using PayPal “goods and services” you can get your money back but it’s not easy like people think. I was scammed early last year buying a 59 kodiak and received a tracking number just like any other transaction I’ve done. What was delivered was a cabinet knob, no joke. I contacted PayPal, sent them every conversation between myself and the scammer along with all the pictures I later found out were from an ad on eBay and disputed this claim for nearly 2 months. Finally PayPal said I had to ship the received product (cabinet knob) back to the provided address, not the one it shipped from. The new address was in Nairobi, Kenya and I would receive my refund upon acknowledgment of receipt of the package which they of course never did. After I paid for the international shipping, the package was delivered and I had to again go back and forth with them until they accepted the tracking info I provided as proof of delivery. Three months later, countless emails and jumping through hoops I finally received my refund. One other thing, they offered me a settlement about halfway through but my pride was all or nothing, I didn’t want to willingly give anything to this scammer. My advice is number 1, be careful, number 2, keep all conversations until both parties are satisfied whether it’s you buying or selling and number 3, be firm in your pursuit of your refund, don’t give these scumbags a dime if you don’t have to

From: longshot1959
Date: 05-Aug-22




One simple rule and it has always worked for me when selling something. If you won't call me and talk with me like a man, I will ignore your texts. If you have something for sale and I call and you don't answer with a human voice, I never call back. I don't need stuff that bad.

From: Babysaph Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 05-Aug-22




Wow now I am scared.

From: MGF
Date: 05-Aug-22




I'm not scared. If I need a set of limbs for my bow I'm going to call Lancaster...or buy face to face or from somebody I know.

From: 2 bears
Date: 05-Aug-22




If it has only been a week, your payment had to get there & he had to get the limbs mailed & the PO needs a few days too. Maybe all is not lost. I think it took about 2 weeks for me to get a set of limbs. Ken

From: bowwild
Date: 05-Aug-22




I have yet to be burned, but some have certainly tried and I've come close!

I put up a mountain bike on FB marketplace, (my daughter's account because I don't have FB). Within a couple hours at least 3 different (?) scam attempts were made.

I also take great pains to talk to the person as Longshot suggested above.

The most insane attempt by a scammer was a few years ago on an airgun forum. Guy called late at night to buy an air rifle from me. Gave me a name and a bit of life history regarding owning a trucking company. Then, after saying he wanted to buy my rifle ($500) he said he'd have to wait about a week to pay me. Red flags-owns a trucking company and $500 difficult to come up with?)

I googled the name, town, and trucking company. Turns out I pulled up an obituary from the mid-60's. I suggested the fellow RIP and stopped communicating. I also reported his handle to the moderator of the forum.

From: Babysaph Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 05-Aug-22




I hear ya MGF

From: Aeronut
Date: 06-Aug-22




The USPS is earning their nickname of Snailmail. I ordered some parts from Midwayusa.com. Any other purchase from them was delivered within three days. This one has taken over a week and is supposedly out for delivery today.

Other items I have ordered have been routed all over the country even after getting to our central hub in Kansas City. I am sure that the ability to read is not a requirement to work there.

From: fdp
Date: 06-Aug-22




One thing about the United States. There are numerous companies ou there that you can use to ship your products You aren't required to use the "government" sponsored parcel carrier.

You can also start your own company since we live in a pretty entrepreneurial centric society.

From: B.T.
Date: 06-Aug-22




Thinking about this...who in the world would scam "Tolke bow limbs" I mean talk about an obscure product to scam?? You are probably one of three people in the world looking for these. The odds are astronomical.

From: longshot1959
Date: 06-Aug-22




OP put out a Wanted Ad for these particular limbs, so scammers contact him saying they just happen to have what he is looking for. What Luck, right? Yeah, there are no shortage of D Bags in this world.

From: Foggy Mountain
Date: 07-Aug-22




If you used pay pal good and services it’s completely easy. Make a complaint. Escellate it to claim right away within a week or so you get money back. Really simple if you need help let me know. You didn’t get screwed believe me. I’ve had all sorts of occasions using it

From: Foggy Mountain
Date: 07-Aug-22




So you have tracking? If you don’t get it about immediately start the claim at pay pal. don’t wait two months. Time is actually limited to do this. I think 90 days





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