Traditional Archery Discussions on the Leatherwall


One piece longbow/recurve very long draw

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Ruttinghard 01-Aug-22
Saxbow 01-Aug-22
Ruttinghard 01-Aug-22
bodymanbowyer 01-Aug-22
Papadeerhtr 01-Aug-22
goldentrout_one 01-Aug-22
Ruttinghard 01-Aug-22
Ruttinghard 01-Aug-22
bowhunt 01-Aug-22
longbowguy 02-Aug-22
lone hunter 02-Aug-22
Live2Hunt 02-Aug-22
Widow sax 02-Aug-22
Boker 02-Aug-22
REM 02-Aug-22
SJR Bows 03-Aug-22
BigJim 03-Aug-22
Ruttinghard 03-Aug-22
Jarhead 03-Aug-22
Jarhead 03-Aug-22
BigJim 04-Aug-22
Tedd 10-Sep-22
From: Ruttinghard
Date: 01-Aug-22




Looking for first hand experience of long draw archers with one piece longbows (66-70”) and recurves (64-68”). I’ve been drawing 31”, but think I could even go 32-33”. I shoot split and like longer bows, but also am a hunter as opposed to target archer. I’m willing to make 66-70” work for hunting. I’ve got the 66” Toelke Whip and 64” Toelke SS hot on my radar. Any insight on those or other's I should look into is much appreciated, thanks!

From: Saxbow
Date: 01-Aug-22




You would love the new one I just bought from Bigjims, a Holm Shrike reflex/deflex 66 inch marked 45 pound, scales 44. I'm actually wanting to sell it a go back to compound. If interested send me an email and I'll send you pictures and will accept a reasonable offer. It's 2 months old. 850-524-8197

From: Ruttinghard
Date: 01-Aug-22




Thank you for the offer Saxbow. But I am lefty, and would want 45# at 32” max.

From: bodymanbowyer
Date: 01-Aug-22




Are you referring to a recurve or straight grip longbow. There is a difference in draw length. JF

From: Papadeerhtr
Date: 01-Aug-22




I draw 31 in myself and found 64 in bows my sweet spot. I just got on trade a Black Canyon takedown longbow. I am beyond happy with it, 47 lb but according to my scale 52 at my draw. Check them out very very very nice bow?!?

From: goldentrout_one
Date: 01-Aug-22




I draw 30" (I need a 30.75" arrow so the broadhead doesn't hit my hand). In a one-piece recurve, I find a 64" Wes Wallace Mentor will do the trick, however I suspect it might max-out around 30.5". Now, I also own a 66" Wes Wallace one-piece Mentor, and I have no doubt that it will accommodate at least 31 draw (I actually measured the gain per 1/2 inch to 31"). I suspect it could handle more, probably out to 31.5" or even 32", but I would call Mr. Wallace and ask him. Regarding his take-down, he also offers a 66" take-down and I would be astonished if that did not accommodate a 33" draw, I think it's a different limb design from the one-piece recurve. If I ever ordered another Mentor, it'd be a 66" one-piece, it's a really cool bow and the longer length never seems to get in the way for me.

From: Ruttinghard
Date: 01-Aug-22




I’m referring to recurves and R/D longbows. Not ASL or straight limb/grip hill style.

Thanks for the recommendation papadeerhtr! I’ll check them out. Though I do longer than 64” with a longbow.

From: Ruttinghard
Date: 01-Aug-22




Thanks I’ll look into Wes Wallace too!

From: bowhunt
Date: 01-Aug-22




Not that many 66 inch recurves in a one piece being made these days.

I would concur the Wallace would be one to look at.Its a 60s style recurve with a good sized riser and is a handsome bow for sure.

Thier are some longer 1 piece R&D bows.The Fox Tripple Crown and Javamans Impala come in 66 inches and longer.Those have longer risers and more mass weight and are cut to center or past center.Thier often used for 3-D but can certainly be used for hunting.

Black Widows PLs and Big Jim Buffalo's have smaller risers and I think they come in 66 inches.Thier are others like those that come in longer lengths for sure.

A mild R&D might be an option.They typically look like a Classic longbow and string into a nice D shape.Thier often cut 1/8th out from center.But you can get them cut to center with lighter poundage bows if you ask most times.You can get those in 66 and 68 inch as well sometimes.ST Patrick lake bows would be one example,Benoit and Northern Mist superior.Thier are others as well.

From: longbowguy
Date: 02-Aug-22




Both my longbows and recurves have mostly been 70" though I do not draw as long as you do. The recurves have been target models so have white or silver finish but that can be dealt with temporarily or permanently. Medium target draw weights will perform very well at you draw length.

I am longer than they are so I can take them anywhere I can go. Just mind your limb tips before you draw, but you must do that even with short bows.

Longer is better - always. - lbg

From: lone hunter
Date: 02-Aug-22




You're on the right track with Toelke's. Call them or e-mail with your questions.

From: Live2Hunt
Date: 02-Aug-22




I have a 31" draw and shoot a 51# 64" Wes Wallace Partner, and it is smooth as silk drawing back. He made the limbs for my draw though. I have a 60 Bear super K that I can shoot but it stacks at 29-30". 64" bows are a great bow for longer draw lengths from what I have found. some 60" bows shoot good also, I shot a Bruin carbon recurve that was 60" and it was smooth all the way back. You really need to shoot the particular bow to know how they will be for you.

From: Widow sax
Date: 02-Aug-22




Don't forget ILF bows go very long and have lots of options. Widow

From: Boker
Date: 02-Aug-22




I draw 30” and have toyed around with a even longer draw

have regularly shot a 56” to 64” Bear takedown with no issue at 30” so at 31” I’d say a 64” combo would work great.

If you just wanted a longer bow you could also get a C riser and make one from 66” to 70”

From: REM
Date: 02-Aug-22




Ruttinghard, I just sent you a message.

From: SJR Bows Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 03-Aug-22




64" St Joe River Classic Longbow or Recurve would work for you

From: BigJim Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 03-Aug-22
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I have a 32" draw length and wouldn't even consider a longbow longer than 66" in RD but prefer my 64" for hunting. I also shoot a 60" 50's style recurve, a 58" forward handle "short" longbow and a 62" 3 piece recurve.

BigJim

From: Ruttinghard
Date: 03-Aug-22




Thanks BigJim! Why is that that you wouldn’t even consider an RD bow longer than 66”? Due to the lack of maneuverability for hunting? Or you don’t shoot them one bit better than the shorter ones? You prefer your 64” Mountain Monarch for hunting?

From: Jarhead
Date: 03-Aug-22




Big Jim and Saluki come to mind...

From: Jarhead
Date: 03-Aug-22




Big Jim and Saluki come to mind...

From: BigJim Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 04-Aug-22
BigJim is a Stickbow.com Sponsor - Website




Ruttinghard, I wouldn't consider it for me.. everyone else must make their own choices. The maneuverability of the shorter bow is nice, but I could make a longer bow work. I find the shorter bows to shoot great at least in the designs I have.

The bow I shoot the most is my 60" mountain monarch.. the second is my 58" thunderchild. These are also the bows I shoot when shooting in tournaments. Do I expect to win? always! do I win? occasionally. It's a mindset. Could I pick up a few points with a longer bow? I guess it's possible but unlikely I will ever find out. If you struggle mentally with archery, you will struggle physically with it as well. I'm a hunter but also very competitive. I won't however, change my hunting rig to compete.. don't want to confuse my mental game.

Although I prefer my critters around 12-15 yards, if they are 25 yards and under, they should be very concerned!

BigJim

From: Tedd Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member
Date: 10-Sep-22




I have to call Big Jims. I want to put a deposit on Thunderchild and a Mountain Monarch both. But need the grips made with the thumb side groove cut lower than the hand side. For shooting with a straight grip. I can't tell by the photos how that looks or if he can modify it.

Tedd





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