From: Silverback
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Date: 30-Jul-22 |
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I have heard that with the ETAR event now being held at Sawmill the entrance is now out by the road and that non campers must walk from the road to get to the vendors.Can anyone confirm this? Because of arthritis in in my ankles knees and hips that is too far for me. I'm stubborn and refuse to apply for a handicap permit.
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From: Bulls & Bucks
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Date: 30-Jul-22 |
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It is true but they have suttles you can take
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From: NYBowhunter
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Date: 30-Jul-22 |
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There are two shuttles that run non- stop. I have not waited more than 10 minutes to board a shuttle. The process is very streamlined this year.
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From: Red Beastmaster
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Date: 30-Jul-22 |
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We walked but I was able to visit with friends camping along 5he way. The shuttles looked packed with shooters anyway.
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From: Silverback
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Date: 30-Jul-22 |
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OK thanks for the information.
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From: Babysaph
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Date: 30-Jul-22 |
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I just got back. I walked in. Gave me some exercise
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From: smrobertson
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Date: 30-Jul-22 |
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The shuttles ran every half hour, anyone could ride.
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From: Wayne Hess
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Date: 31-Jul-22 |
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Monkeyball you’re a wimp, My wife pulled these two around all Day, and what a great day Friday was
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From: Bozz
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Date: 31-Jul-22 |
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does anyone have an idea of what the attendance is this year? We camped in the far field, had plenty of room, didn't mind the walk (all of us are over 60)clean facilities. It was all good. The winery course has an interesting layout. What's up with the pond being built there, will it be part of the shoot in the future. Mike and the staff did a great job at trying to keep people happy this year
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From: Nemophilist
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Date: 31-Jul-22 |
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Bozz nice picture. :)
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From: Babysaph
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Date: 31-Jul-22 |
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Had a great time as usual with my NJ buddies . I thought I would miss DH just because of tradition but I like this venue better. More room and much closer drive for me
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From: Bozz
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Date: 31-Jul-22 |
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thanks Frank, that's my buddy resting his eyes
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From: George D. Stout
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Date: 31-Jul-22 |
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It's still going on, they'll likely say next week on their facebook page.
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From: Babysaph
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Date: 31-Jul-22 |
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Hard to get a gauge because it is all spread out
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From: SteveBNY
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Date: 31-Jul-22 |
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I talked to Mike Sr today. Camping spots were up over 600 this year from about 500 last year. Most vendors I talked to had great sales with many saying best year ever. The new location has brought nothing but positives and growth - new era for ETAR.
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From: Wayne Hess
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Date: 31-Jul-22 |
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Sun Set at upper end of pond , Friday an fireworks was OK from top of hill
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From: Dale Hajas
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Date: 31-Jul-22 |
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My son Jared and I had a blast. The courses were great, and we shot the Deep woods course for the 1st time and thoroughly enjoyed that course. Shuttles were always running, porta potties were very clean as were the nice showers. It was so nice to see folks from last years shoots, and also make new friends... As packed as it was we really werent stuck waiting at targets, it did occur but not often.
The numbers as told to me, rivalled whatever DH could hold. There were over 600 camp permits and the field was maybe only half filled. Plenty of room for more folks, loads of fun n friends in the field, more porta potties and garbage disposal cans cleaned everyday for the field. Vendors were awesome, and again as I inquired, everyone was doing very good business. Had to be several hundred used bows between, the vendors and swap meet.....Holy cow! The new aerial target setup was cool and it was set up in a good way. The fellers from Kuiui were blown away by the event.
Neil Byce spent some time with me and my Kodiak and arrows, probably 1/2 hr or so. Very impressed with the Bear setup and staff.
We really couldnt come up with any complainta. I too have bad legs so I drove down to the vendor area. Seemed like alot of Ebikes and some golf carts, made the scene.
It really was a great time.
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From: Jack Whitmrie jr
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Date: 31-Jul-22 |
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This venue is much better than Denton hill, clean showers and plenty of room for camping. Great job ETAR!!!
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From: Red Beastmaster
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Date: 31-Jul-22 |
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We went into Denton Hill to check it out as we passed by. It looked so small! I told my son in law everything he just saw at Sawmill used to be packed into this small area. Hard to believe.
Denton is now an overgrown weed field. Totally neglected. Shame. Lots of good memories there but Sawmill is waaay better.
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From: babysaph
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Date: 31-Jul-22 |
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I agree Red Beast. I thought I would miss it just because of the history. But this place is much better. Plenty of room for camping.
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From: Wapiti - - M. S.
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Date: 01-Aug-22 |
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Glad it was a great shoot never been to Saw mill - new ETAR.
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From: Jamie
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Date: 01-Aug-22 |
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We had a great time this weekend at our first ETAR. We shot the courses, bought some gear (new black widow for me) and met lots of great people. It was refreshing to walk around the sawmill and have people look you in the eye and say good morning or good afternoon when you walk past them. We live an hour north of Toronto and people are more likely to look at the ground when passing by.
It was a bit overwhelming at first I must say. Our local traditional range is busy if there is 12 people there.
It was neat to see all the Mennonite or Amish people in attendance on the Friday Saturday. I had no idea they were so into traditional archery.
Looking forward to next year.
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From: Dale Hajas
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Date: 01-Aug-22 |
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So Jamie ypu parked along the road and put the Maple Leaf on yer windshield...was that you?
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From: Jamie
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Date: 01-Aug-22 |
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Yea we had a Canada flag on the hood of our black Kia. I’m glad we found a spot alittle bit away from the field.
I can’t believe how hot it was during the day and how cold it was at night
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From: Buckdancer
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Date: 01-Aug-22 |
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Jamie it was good talking to you and your wife up top of the mountain course ????
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From: Jamie
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Date: 01-Aug-22 |
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Nice talking to you aswell Dan.
To answer your friends question we paid roughly 10$ Canadian more for gas in Ontario than we did at a gas station near wellsboro PA
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From: Jamie
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Date: 01-Aug-22 |
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From: Jamie
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Date: 01-Aug-22 |
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I wish stickbow would let me upload photos. Keep getting the error message.
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From: Phil Magistro
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Date: 01-Aug-22 |
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You probably get the error message because your photos are too large. If so, you need to resize them to 640x480 maximum.
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From: Wayne Hess
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Date: 01-Aug-22 |
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Great times at E.T.A.R. Hopping for another ride down this road in Ski Sawmill good meeting of like Friends.
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From: Rut Nut
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Date: 01-Aug-22 |
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First time to ETAR and was impressed! Lots of good vendors, food was a little pricey but good, lots of room to camp and those shuttles were nice. We were camped in Morris, so had to park out by the road, so the daily shuttle service was a nice surprise.
Was going to look for a buddy of mine(at least I THOUGHT he was a buddy ;-), but I never got an answer to my text, so I had no idea where his camp was............. (I won;t mention any names, but his initials are DH ;-)
Might have to come back next year again.......................
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From: Dale Hajas
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Date: 01-Aug-22 |
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If yer describing me Rut I havent gotten any messages. Sorry!
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From: Red Beastmaster
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Date: 01-Aug-22 |
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I looked for you Dale! Well, sort of. There were empty hot dog wrappers in the trash so I knew where you had been..
I found Herb and Brad.
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From: dnovo
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Date: 01-Aug-22 |
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I’ve always read about ETAR and thought about it but it’s a good 12-13 hr drive for me from Missouri. But since today is my last work day I’ll have to think hard about making the trip with the camper next year. Sounds like it’s an awesome shoot.
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From: hawkeye in PA
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Date: 01-Aug-22 |
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Dale was every where, at the blanket sales, in the vendor tents and even mooching supper next door to us:)
Had a great time, ended up with nineteen in camp, ten of them from three to fifteen. It's a great environment for them shooting, fishing and playing games.
Thanks ETAR
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From: Dale Hajas
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Date: 01-Aug-22 |
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Mooching?? It was an invitational!..... And you knew some of those good folks. Thus cementing my reputation as the Kevin Bacon of Trad.:) I said lots of good things about my western Pa buds and They didnt believe me lol.
Is there really a Marc Lauver?:)
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From: Rutnomore
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Date: 01-Aug-22 |
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IMHO, this was the best ETAR, nice weather, fireworks, shuttles and targets, vendors etc.
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From: Tradbo
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Date: 01-Aug-22 |
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I think they did a great job this year. The mountain course reminded me of the courses on the mountain at Denton Hill. Seemed to be a much bigger crowd this year. I do enjoy the new location
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From: Rut Nut
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Date: 02-Aug-22 |
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Red- he must have been everywhere judging by those hot dog wrappers scattered all over the place! But I still couldn;t find him.......
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From: Red Beastmaster
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Date: 02-Aug-22 |
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The elusive Metikki!
He hides unnoticed among Big Jim's Bigfoot targets by day, then raids coolers for packs of hot dogs by night. Joey Chestnut's got nothing on him!
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From: Metikki
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Date: 02-Aug-22 |
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Now I see why those good folks didn’t believe me… :)
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From: BigJim
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Date: 02-Aug-22 |
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BigJim is a Stickbow.com Sponsor - Website |
We had an exceptional time even though I didn't see one range.
I much prefer this location to the Denton Hill ETAR.
We sold a bunch of stuff and still came home with more bows than I brought! I purchased 97 bows from one individual! We will have a bunch of kodiak specials and Pearson mercury bows coming up for sell on line soon. I even ended up with a couple of beautiful wood C riser bows. One of witch is sporting Fred Bears signature!
Lots to do now that we are home... Well, after getting home from our last event of the year this coming weekend. BigJim
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From: Joe2Crow
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Date: 02-Aug-22 |
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Was there for 6 days with my grandson. Good times. I still believe Denton Hill was a better location and everyone we polled while there felt the same way. There is plenty of camping room at Sawmill but much of it is a long walk to vendors and clubhouse. The showers are definitely better than Denton Hill but that's not saying much. The courses are definitely better at Denton Hill. There were also more vendors at Denton Hill. Will be interesting to hear the attendance numbers.
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From: Witherstick
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Date: 02-Aug-22 |
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I do miss the more rugged courses of Denton Hill. However, the rugged courses of Denton Hill are all that I miss.
Vendors are down because most things can and are purchased on line. But, there is still no place better to see so many vendors and try new bows. Plus, there are still enough vendors there that you can pick up any other related gear as we did.
If you make use of the shuttles, the walking distances are of little consequence. In fact, all but the 2 courses on the mountain are easy to walk. If you can walk those, the other walking shouldn’t matter.
My Wife and I do like the new courses just as much as the previous ones at Denton Hill even though we miss the varying terrain. We love knowing that we will have a place to park. So, yes it is different. But it’s still the traditional shoot of the year by far.
In fact , the only thing that would be nice is adding a large shelter from the Sun between the lodge and practice range for people to rest and congregate.
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From: George D. Stout
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Date: 02-Aug-22 |
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Some will love it, some won't, que sera, sera I suppose. :) My buddy Scott said they had a 100 more campers this year versus last year, so there is that. Those of us who were at the first one remember the 200 shooters and 12 vendors, so not only has it grown significantly, it looks like it will continue to get even bigger.
Also, please keep Mike and his wife Joyce in your prayers as she continues to battle ovarian cancer.
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From: Dale Hajas
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Date: 02-Aug-22 |
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I have bad leg issues. I shot the mountain course along with my son ar STAR. At ETAR we drove to the Winery and Deep Woods courses. Each day I drove to the showers, and the vendor tents, shot the aerial targets, got ice, met friends at the lower camps etc etc. In fact after attending both events, the last 2 years, we have yet use a shuttle.
Forget Denton. Let it go lol it doesnt matter anymore but for great memories, and Sawmill can create new perhaps better ones. Our plans are made for next year already.:) Peace
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From: babysaph
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Date: 03-Aug-22 |
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How do you guys hunt if you can not walk a little? We are getting soft. We can all get stuff faster and cheaper online. We can all shoot a local courses. It is meeting up with good friends that counts in my book.
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From: Metikki
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Date: 03-Aug-22 |
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Heck I did the mountain course, taking our time. I couldve never done that 5 or 6 years ago. There were 47 targets on the Deep Woods course. It was longer than the walk from the field to the vendors.
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From: Jamie
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Date: 03-Aug-22 |
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I felt like we got a lot of excercise this weekend for sure. I made quite a few trips from the camping field to the vendors and 3D ranges. I decided pretty early on to try my best to limit the amount of trips. I kept my wallet in my hip quiver so i could go to the vendors or get some food at the end of a shooting session. I’m 35 and while I could handle the excercise no problem, I was definitely tired by the end of every day.
One thing I wanted to comment on was hrs set in the brochure for shooting the 3D courses. The brochure said 7am to 6pm everyday but it seemed like that was more of a suggestion than a rule as I saw many people shoot until dark. I can definitely see why people wanted to shoot after 6pm. You can avoid the heat of midday and I assume the courses would be less busy
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From: Brian Bishop
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Date: 03-Aug-22 |
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I think Sawmill is a much better place than Denton. Camping, showers and the ranges are superior.
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From: George D. Stout
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Date: 03-Aug-22 |
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Now you gone doneit, JR, all the "I walk the hardest courses all the time, uphill both ways". I don't hunt to see if I can survive a rigorous physical test, I hunt for the pleasure of hunting. But yes, I still do some uphill walking/hunting. If you saw our mountain farm land you would know immediately....there is nothing level.
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From: Witherstick
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Date: 03-Aug-22 |
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Honestly, my Wife and I haven’t used the shuttles at all. We are both just short of 60 years old and workout nearly everyday doing weights and walking several miles. I think we bothered some people as we flew through the courses especially when shooting courses the second time. We tried to be polite but we enjoy shooting on the courses more than talking while standing at the stakes. However, to us it was much less strenuous than a workout. We managed to shoot the winery course in just over 30 minutes one morning and the deep woods in less than an hour one afternoon. Shooting just like hunting shouldn’t be a sedentary pursuit. Kind of makes me wonder about all those who want to say our younger people are so soft.
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From: Babysaph
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Date: 03-Aug-22 |
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George. You should see where I hunt. Being from WV I am familiar with mountains. My point is we as a society have gotten fat and lazy. Some things just require a little effort to enjoy. I totally understand the handicapped person needing help. I get that. But we complain about stupid stuff to make the shoot easier. The good thing is that there are 4 flat courses to shoot so everyone can shoot. And the biggest backup for us was the mountain courses. Plenty of people on em. I’d like to see some electric bikes for rent next year and maybe some 4 wheelers to get up the hill. ??
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From: Babysaph
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Date: 03-Aug-22 |
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And George if memory serves me correctly you had some heart problems so I wouldn’t be doing all that hill walking. You don’t need to do that.
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From: Buckdancer
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Date: 03-Aug-22 |
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That ski lift look like in great shape maybe they should get it in use it
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From: Dale Hajas
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Date: 03-Aug-22 |
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There are/were plans, but to use them they would have to change/re-create two big courses first, the practice ranges, and some novelty shoots. There are always ways/ideas to improve. Call them up and tell them:)
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From: Babysaph
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Date: 03-Aug-22 |
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I’d say it would cost a lot to run it.
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From: Danielb
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Date: 04-Aug-22 |
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I said this in another post also. The biggest problem I saw at ETAR, (other than flat, uninteresting, open field shots with nothing behind them but ferns and weeds) was where the two mountain courses converged and shared the same last 15 or so targets. I’m just guessing as I really didn’t count them. That problem is the fault of the ones who laid out the courses and should be an easy fix to separate them.
If I can get the needed supplies (3D targets) from vendors at other shoots, I probably won't return.
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From: mamba-ny
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Date: 04-Aug-22 |
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Sunrise over the pond
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From: mamba-ny
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Date: 04-Aug-22 |
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i must of been blinded by the tie die guy.
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From: mamba-ny
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Date: 04-Aug-22 |
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Try this again
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From: Tradarcher4fun
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Date: 04-Aug-22 |
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I had a blast! There were 3 of us and we shot a lot of arrows. We almost shot every course twice. I like the venue and the courses. Spent lots of time with vendors and met lots of great people on the courses. Can't wait until next year.
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From: mamba-ny
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Date: 04-Aug-22 |
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Thank you Kirk
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From: Susquehannabum
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Date: 05-Aug-22 |
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ETAR is my favorite weekend of the year. Meeting up with friends, shooting aa lot of arrows, trying out new bows. I got up there on Wednesday and shot every course at least twice. Lots to like but there is room for improvement. First off, buy some new targets, there are too many old mis-matched targets, way too many groundhogs and other small Bigshot targets. Spend some money on some Reinhart targets. Get the lift working. Spend the money to build a platform at the top to get off the lift. Pay the inspector. Charge a few dollars to use it like they did at DH the last few years it was working. I did the mountain course a couple times but my knee was killing me afterwards. Add another long course or two. DH had 9 courses. Only 6 here not counting the kids course. Winake is just a shortened version of the mountain course. Pigpen is usually backed up because it's short and flat. Another long course would help spread things out. A few more portable toilets in the big field would be appreciated too. Just sayin'
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From: BigB
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Date: 05-Aug-22 |
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I hope to make it to this shoot one day, but its a long way from Alabama. Looks like an awesome shoot. Glad you guys had fun.
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From: Babysaph
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Date: 05-Aug-22 |
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Lol. And have a few blondes walking the camping area giving away beer
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From: babysaph
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Date: 05-Aug-22 |
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I love all the complaints.
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From: Desperado
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Date: 05-Aug-22 |
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I am so sorry I couldn't be there to sing & give the message at the Sunday morning church service but Bronchitis kept me home. Looking forward to next year !!! Keep the Faith....GEN 27:3 Be safe...Des
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From: Buckdancer
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Date: 06-Aug-22 |
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I didn’t know I was that good looking ????????????????
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From: B.T.
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Date: 06-Aug-22 |
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Nice place for a big shoot. The camping looks better than most can provide.
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From: Andy Man
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Date: 06-Aug-22 |
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its the lighting Dan??
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From: Phil Magistro
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Date: 06-Aug-22 |
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Sometimes I find myself just sitting and staring at the fire.
Nice photos Stan.
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From: Shick
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Date: 06-Aug-22 |
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Dan, 'only the campfire remembers'. Shick
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From: Lonewolf
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Date: 06-Aug-22 |
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I camped in the field across from the pond Thursday through Saturday, I had two gentleman camped next to me that helped me put my 10x10 pop up together and offered me breakfast and dinner, great fellows from Long Island I believe. Great people in Traditional archery, I had been to Dentin Hill from 2010-2013, neve camped because space was so limited and I could never get there before Thursday, I like Sawmill way better, alot more camping and if it rains everything doesn't flood out like at Denton, The family and people that put this together do an outstanding job and don't get enough credit for all the HARD work that they and all the volunteers put into this, so when you think about complaining about walking just remember all the walking they had to do to get this setup for YOU to enjoy. Personally I think this event will be even bigger than Denton in the next couple years and more vendors will show up. I had a blast and can't wait until next year.
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From: Babysaph
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Date: 06-Aug-22 |
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I agree they do a great job.
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From: Jamie
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Date: 06-Aug-22 |
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Great photos Stan
One thing I noticed at ETAR was that I didn’t have to deal with one mosquito the whole time I was there, even at dawn and dusk. Where we are in Ontario they are a nuisance up until early October
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From: mahantango
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Date: 07-Aug-22 |
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I camped at Denton Hill for years, loved it, but it was far from ideal. This year we just went for the day and I gotta say that the camping looks way better. Facilities and porta potties were very clean as well. Huge thanks to Mike, Kieth and the whole crew for an excellent job!
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From: Bob
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Date: 07-Aug-22 |
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ETAR is an event I and my family look forward to every year, and prefer the new sight at sawmill much better overall, but do miss the old courses a bit. I have a large group of friends and family with me, including several grandkids, and everyone had a blast. I only wish I had more time to rub elbows with and meet more people there.
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From: ishi4
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Date: 07-Aug-22 |
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Awesome picture Bob!
I had a ball there this year connecting with old friends and picking up a few bargains. I also much prefer this site to DH and think this shoot will continue to grow for years. Great job by the Sawmill crew!
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From: Bob
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Date: 07-Aug-22 |
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Thanks Ishi4. I got a few bargains there too. I always end up buying bundles of used wooden arrows at the blanket sale with some mojo left in them, and enjoy sprucing them up and giving them a new life.
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From: Jack Whitmrie jr
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Date: 07-Aug-22 |
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These guys/gals get a salute and thank you from me, awesome job! This venue is GREAT compared to Denton Hill IMO. Showers were clean and porta potties cleaned many times. I quit going to Denton Hill because of the dirty bathrooms and crowded camping. I'll be going every year that I can!!!!
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From: Bryce
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Date: 07-Aug-22 |
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Ya'll got bugs up there? Hoping to attend one of these years!
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From: Big jack
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Date: 07-Aug-22 |
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No bugs feel free to bring your own lil
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From: Sherwood Poacher
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Date: 07-Aug-22 |
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I got to ETAR on Wednesday midday and set up my tent (white and red tent....my Tacoma pkup) . Nice spot and had Buckdancer for a neighbor. Good fireside chats...
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