From: Wudstix
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Date: 28-Jul-22 |
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Which head do you prefer for stumping and/or small game?
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From: Corax_latrans
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Date: 28-Jul-22 |
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If grass, then Judo. They’re pretty good in fallen leaves as well.
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From: Machino
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Date: 28-Jul-22 |
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I stump with the hex and small game with old broadheads that i file three notches on both sides of head with a chainsaw file. I dont like loosing grouse and generally if i hit them with the broadhead they are done. Judos and hexes never were good enough for me
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From: DHay
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Date: 29-Jul-22 |
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I like them both but use the Hex heads most of the time. The Hex heads come in 175 grains which is point weight that works with my setup. better price per point. The Hex heads ride in the bow quiver foam better too. And, you can always combo the Hex head with an adder collar for more damage and less burying.
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From: zonic
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Date: 29-Jul-22 |
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Judos for stumps. Hex for small game.
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From: Greenstyk
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Date: 29-Jul-22 |
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Hex. They fly well and are tough. Only drawback is they will bury up under leaves or soft ground.
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From: Jeff Durnell
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Date: 29-Jul-22 |
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I use Magnus small game heads for small game, and Judos for roving.
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From: trad_bowhunter1965
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Date: 29-Jul-22 |
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I shoot them all Judo, Ace Hex, VPA, Hammer head my favorite for small game is the Game nabber by Precision Designed Products
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From: Mechanic
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Date: 29-Jul-22 |
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Never lost an arrow with a judo
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From: ottertails
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Date: 29-Jul-22 |
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I never lost an arrow with a judo either...thousands of shots. But I did lose a couple of judos in stumps that buried deep and wouldn't budge. Got the arrows by yanking them out (wood arrows, hot melt).
When roving, I have both the judos and the hexheads. Hexheads for stumps and judos for leaves, forest litter etc.
For hunting small game I have a variety of heads. I'll post a pic.
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From: ottertails
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Date: 29-Jul-22 |
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Not in the pic are some old modified broadheads, and some homemade heads from brass like George posted but with nails and variety of other homemades. Most are gone, anymore, I would just buy if needed.
And I stopped using judos for small game ...have wounded a few critters that went off to die that I didn't recover...didn't like that.
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From: Corax_latrans
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Date: 29-Jul-22 |
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To George’s point… I think shell casings have been used as blunts for about as long as there have been cartridges. How many grains is a 38 special versus a .357?
Although to hear the gun guys talk, it sounds like spent shell casings might be one of the more expensive options out there these days!
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From: George D. Stout
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Date: 29-Jul-22 |
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The last time I weighed a 38 case it was around 80-85 grains. I personally have about four boxes of spend 30:30 cases so I can pilfer some from them. Those are what is on the arrow in my photo. I have some spent brass from forty years ago in the basement hovel. :) A 30:30 case cut off right behind the bullet taper, is about 125'ish grains on Winchester ammo. They will snug over a 23/64 cedar.
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From: White Falcon
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Date: 29-Jul-22 |
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Hex, judo and rubber blunts.
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From: Jeff Durnell
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Date: 29-Jul-22 |
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I like the Magnus because it kills with both shock and hemorrhage. I've had real good success with it. It's also the same weight and inside taper as my broadheads, field points, and judos so that's good. Unfortunately they're no longer made.
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From: ottertails
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Date: 29-Jul-22 |
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Yeah Jeff those Magnus blunts are a favorite of mine also. I bought a couple packs when they first came out, liked how they performed and right away bought a bunch more for myself and sons. It's a shame they're no longer available...good squirrel medicine.
Those screw-in broadheads came off of arrows I found in the woods. I need some adapters for my woodies...more squirrel, bunny ammo.
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From: Jeff Durnell
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Date: 29-Jul-22 |
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Yep, good squirrel medicine. I bought plenty too.
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From: Andy Man
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Date: 29-Jul-22 |
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Judo for grassy stuff
Regular blunt and ACE hex for every thing else
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From: elkpacker
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Date: 29-Jul-22 |
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I use the Hex heads, I like them.Yet to lose one
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From: Highlife
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Date: 29-Jul-22 |
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Hex stopped using kudos when I discovered hex heads
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From: Tody
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Date: 29-Jul-22 |
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Ace Hex is my favorite. Works well on small game, good pricing
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From: Bootaka
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Date: 29-Jul-22 |
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Same as most everyone, Hex if there's hard stuff, Judos for soft.
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From: Wudstix
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Date: 29-Jul-22 |
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May have to glue the adders on a field point instead of a washer.
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From: Eriebuck
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Date: 30-Jul-22 |
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Another option for slip on blunts or to make small game points are 7.62x39 steel casings ground down to below the necked area. These are throw aways at any shooting range and when the neck down area is ground away fit almost perfectly over an 11/32" shaft
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From: recurve ron
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Date: 30-Jul-22 |
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I use hex for game and rubber blunts for stumping.
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From: ottertails
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Date: 30-Jul-22 |
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dm/wolfskin, 'bout time you showed up. Good shooting, grey's are my favorite...when I can hit 'em!
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From: Sunset Hill
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Date: 30-Jul-22 |
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I only use judos for long grass in my pasture. I've broken so many off wood arrows I can't remember. Long head means the fulcrum against a wood shaft isn't the best when it hits a hard object. Same with Hex heads, they have a long fulcrum but seem to be better and are much better for removing from a backquiver than judos.
I use .38 or .357 casings mostly, and add melted lead shot inside to bring the weight up. The casing is soft enough metal that if a hard object is hit, the casing bends behind the lead, saving the shaft. They whop rabbits, squirrels and grouse no problem. Don't see the need for broadheads on small game.
I also make my poor man's judo...1/2" long 6x32 machine screw and wing nut screwed through the primer hole and threadlock glue in place. They do a number on game and don't bury and weight at 125/130 gr. Slide right over my 11/32 shafts and no long fulcrum.
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From: dm/wolfskin
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Date: 30-Jul-22 |
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Rabbits get broadheads.
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From: dm/wolfskin
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Date: 30-Jul-22 |
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Hex head for field rats.
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From: dm/wolfskin
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Date: 30-Jul-22 |
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I have one arrow in my quiver for armadillos. Old arrow with a home made broadhead made out of a band saw blade. In the picture up above with all my small game arrows.
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From: Pdiddly2
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Date: 31-Jul-22 |
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Hex head for game and open ground stumping…they do not kick up like a judo does in the grass, but bury more readily and skip off stumps.
Judo’s are OK on rabbits and hare if you hit them in the neck or coconut…OK on grouse as well. No good on squirrels.
I tried some homemade heads with wing nuts etc…they were substandard In comparison to the original judos which last a long time, so worth buying.
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From: heftyhunter
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Date: 31-Jul-22 |
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Just buy them both and have fun. Life is short.
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