Traditional Archery Discussions on the Leatherwall


Frankenbow

Messages posted to thread:
babysaph 03-Jul-22
Boker 03-Jul-22
Todd the archer 04-Jul-22
GUTPILEPA 04-Jul-22
George D. Stout 04-Jul-22
DaleHajas 04-Jul-22
babysaph 04-Jul-22
George D. Stout 04-Jul-22
Boker 04-Jul-22
babysaph 04-Jul-22
Nemophilist 04-Jul-22
Babysaph 04-Jul-22
Babysaph 04-Jul-22
fdp 04-Jul-22
babysaph 04-Jul-22
babysaph 04-Jul-22
fdp 04-Jul-22
fdp 05-Jul-22
Bassmaster 05-Jul-22
babysaph 05-Jul-22
fdp 05-Jul-22
fdp 05-Jul-22
fdp 05-Jul-22
fdp 05-Jul-22
Babysaph 05-Jul-22
Babysaph 05-Jul-22
babysaph 05-Jul-22
babysaph 05-Jul-22
Nemophilist 15-Jul-22
babysaph 17-Jul-22
fdp 03-Jul-24
Snow Crow 03-Jul-24
fdp 04-Jul-24
Snow Crow 04-Jul-24
monkeyball 05-Jul-24
monkeyball 05-Jul-24
JBM 06-Jul-24
Nemophilist 06-Jul-24
Jimmyjumpup 07-Jul-24
selstickbow 07-Jul-24
Lowcountry 08-Jul-24
Lowcountry 08-Jul-24
Jimmyjumpup 08-Jul-24
monkeyball 08-Jul-24
Jimmyjumpup 08-Jul-24
monkeyball 08-Jul-24
Lastmohecken 09-Jul-24
monkeyball 09-Jul-24
Snow Crow 10-Jul-24
From: babysaph Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 03-Jul-22




What is the process of turning my Bear Black bear into a Frankenbow? Any websites where I can go to learn how to do this? Thanks in advance.

From: Boker
Date: 03-Jul-22

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I have one and just mounted the sage limbs direct to riser. Only mod made was I sanded the limb butt just a little for better alignment.

From: Todd the archer Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 04-Jul-22




https://www.tradtalk.com/forums/warfin-wall.33/

All about warfing bows and frankenbows

From: GUTPILEPA
Date: 04-Jul-22




I like the bow BOKER

From: George D. Stout
Date: 04-Jul-22




We talked of this to a great extent, and pretty sure you were in on it. Take off limbs of compound, install Sage limbs or similar, and shim it on the edges with popsicle sticks, or whatever suits your fancy. It is that simple. You will likely lose 4 to 5 pounds off the marked limb weight due to limb butt angle.

From: DaleHajas
Date: 04-Jul-22




Lots of stuff on Tradtalk and also on the Facebook page "warfbow" which also has quite a few guys making plates on there. Theres alot on here too using the search function.

From: babysaph Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member
Date: 04-Jul-22




Thanks guys. did you use the popsicle sticks boker?

From: George D. Stout
Date: 04-Jul-22




If you're handy with a drill and a tap, you can shim it with steel bolts, around 3/16 x 24 on either side through the limb butt edges.

From: Boker
Date: 04-Jul-22




“Did you use the popsicle sticks boker?”

Yes it does.

From: babysaph Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member
Date: 04-Jul-22




Thanks guys.

From: Nemophilist
Date: 04-Jul-22

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I just got another Bear Black Bear compound riser (on left). I already had some Samick Sage limbs and knobbed limb bolts, so I'll be building another Frankenbow in the future. On the right is the Frankenbow I built last year. I hope my second one shoots as good as my first one.

From: Babysaph Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 04-Jul-22




I got that done monkey. Just trying to get some plates and limbs

From: Babysaph Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 04-Jul-22




What is the shortest bow I can end up with. I’d like to have a 60” bow. Is that possible

From: fdp
Date: 04-Jul-22




You can also buy any length ILF limb you want and remove THE ILF hardware and use them as bolt downs. That way you have a wider choice of overall length.

From: babysaph Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member
Date: 04-Jul-22




Got it

From: babysaph Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member
Date: 04-Jul-22




Got it. How do I know what poundage limbs to buy to end up with what I want? Thanks again for all the advice

From: fdp
Date: 04-Jul-22




I use 'em all the time as do others and have for years. I have posted here to add a lateral adjustment screw if one wishes to do that to compensate for the narrower limb butt.

They work just peachy and allow you a much wider assortment of length and quality of limb.

One certainly doesn't have to use them but in actual practice there is no reason not to. I've not had any problem (nor has anyone else I know) in many years of doing it.

From: fdp
Date: 05-Jul-22




It's all about what one wishes to do and why one wishes to do it. It takes a hand drill and 15 minutes to do the job. And as mentioned you have a much wider range of limbs at your disposal. And some folks prefer solid bolt down limbs. Heck if you want be really unconventional you can modify the limb pockets for ILF, add the lateral adjustment screws and have the ability shoot any manner of limbs from the same riser.

Why clip the string and cables on a compound when just backing the limb bolts put 2 or 3 turns at a time until the limbs relax and just pulling them off?

Lots of different ways to do things.

From: Bassmaster
Date: 05-Jul-22




I turned the limb bolts out as far as I could with out stripping them, and cut the string ,and cables. The Sage limb brackets fit perfect inside the Bear riser, and bolted the limbs.

From: babysaph Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member
Date: 05-Jul-22




I am guessing the limbs fit down in the pocket to resist lateral movement? I am use to having a pin there to keep them from rotating but I guess if it fits nice and tight they will not move.

From: fdp
Date: 05-Jul-22

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Here are the steps for installing the limb alignment screws.

From: fdp
Date: 05-Jul-22

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From: fdp
Date: 05-Jul-22

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From: fdp
Date: 05-Jul-22

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From: Babysaph Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 05-Jul-22




Thanks Monkey

From: Babysaph Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 05-Jul-22




What poundage limbs should I use to get around a 50 lb bow?

From: babysaph Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member
Date: 05-Jul-22




ttt

From: babysaph Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member
Date: 05-Jul-22




Thanks buddy.

From: Nemophilist
Date: 15-Jul-22




Good thread.

From: babysaph Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member
Date: 17-Jul-22




Bout ready to reveal my Frankenbow

From: fdp
Date: 03-Jul-24




Ttt for tex-archer

From: Snow Crow
Date: 03-Jul-24




"You can also buy any length ILF limb you want and remove THE ILF hardware and use them as bolt downs. That way you have a wider choice of overall length."

fdp, Thanks for that tip. Is removal of ILF hardware from the limbs permanent or can said removed hardware be re-installed?

From: fdp
Date: 04-Jul-24




Hey Snow Crow, the hardware can be put back in.

From: Snow Crow
Date: 04-Jul-24




Thanks for that, fdp!

From: monkeyball
Date: 05-Jul-24




Let's see your Frankenbow Jack, it's been 2 years, you must have finished it by now?

Good Shooting->->->->Craig

From: monkeyball
Date: 05-Jul-24




or maybe not.......

Good Shooting->->->->Craig

From: JBM
Date: 06-Jul-24




SHOW ME DAH BOW! PLS & THANK YOU SHOW ME THE BOW????

From: Nemophilist
Date: 06-Jul-24

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Here you go JBM (aka: Batman)

My Frankenbow I built in 2021, Bear Black Bear riser with 60# Samick Sage limbs. Bow hunted with it in 2021. Buck was shot from 30 yards. I was amazed at how well my Frankenbow shot.

From: Jimmyjumpup Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 07-Jul-24




I never did finish it

From: selstickbow
Date: 07-Jul-24




now is your chance.

From: Lowcountry
Date: 08-Jul-24

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From: Lowcountry
Date: 08-Jul-24




DOC - you have to check with the ILF limb manufacturer to see what their limbs are rated for at your riser length. For example, Trad Tech limbs may be listed at 45lbs on a 19" riser but they may lose 3 lbs on a 21" riser and gain 3 lbs on a 17" riser - or vice versa, I don't remember.

From: Jimmyjumpup Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 08-Jul-24




Thanks so much

From: monkeyball
Date: 08-Jul-24




Last I knew Tradtech were measured on a 17" riser.

If you ever do get the itch to build one again Jack the easiest way is with the Samick Sage limbs. The fit is pretty decent and as shown on another thread the velcro does a very good job keeping the limbs where they belong.

And even with the low price of the Sage limbs they really behave well.

One other thing, you will usually show about 5# less than what the limbs are marked at if you areusing the Black Bear riser.

Good Shooting->->->->Craig

From: Jimmyjumpup Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 08-Jul-24




That is what I have. I just haven't done it yet. LOL. I love the black tail riser. I Actually had one of those and hunted with it back in the 80's before I went to trad.

From: monkeyball
Date: 08-Jul-24




You really should build one. Like Nemo said above, they are shooters and really perform well....and it's pretty cool putting that old riser back to use. If you go for it, good luck.

Good Shooting->->->->Craig

From: Lastmohecken
Date: 09-Jul-24




The Frankin bows with Samick Sage limbs, if built decently, will shoot with about anything. My two, that I built, will shoot as good and often better than about any bow I own, and I own several, anymore.

From: monkeyball
Date: 09-Jul-24

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That they will........

Good Shooting->->->->Craig

From: Snow Crow
Date: 10-Jul-24

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"Try it" they said, "it'll shoot great."

50# Ragim Impala limbs on a PSE Beast riser (15.5" between bolt centers). 60" nock to nock length when strung, 7 to 7 1/4" brace height so far. Mid-upper forties on the fingers, hard to tell because it's the smoothest drawing thing I've shot. Ever.

5 from 20 yards after dialing in and getting used to it.

A pox on all youse Frankenbow pushers.





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