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No more glue on nocks being made ?

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Broadheads&Brass 17-Jun-22
fdp 17-Jun-22
Andy Man 17-Jun-22
Babysaph 17-Jun-22
GLF 17-Jun-22
Broadheads&Brass 17-Jun-22
fdp 17-Jun-22
Sasquatch73 17-Jun-22
Babysaph 17-Jun-22
Orion 17-Jun-22
fdp 17-Jun-22
felipe 17-Jun-22
Kisatchie 17-Jun-22
M60gunner 17-Jun-22
Pdiddly2 18-Jun-22
Nemophilist 18-Jun-22
George D. Stout 18-Jun-22
Bill Rickvalsky 18-Jun-22
Seahorse 18-Jun-22
Nemophilist 18-Jun-22
Bill Rickvalsky 18-Jun-22
Red Beastmaster 18-Jun-22
Nemophilist 18-Jun-22
Bill Rickvalsky 18-Jun-22
Seahorse 18-Jun-22
Phil 18-Jun-22
Yewbender 18-Jun-22
Longcruise 18-Jun-22
Bowspirit 18-Jun-22
fdp 18-Jun-22
babysaph 18-Jun-22
Dad 18-Jun-22
Bowlim 19-Jun-22
DanaC 19-Jun-22
M60gunner 19-Jun-22
Jon Stewart 19-Jun-22
Red Beastmaster 19-Jun-22
Osr144 23-Jun-22
bradsmith2010santafe 23-Jun-22
Breakfast Boy 23-Jun-22
Downcanyon 23-Jun-22
GLF 23-Jun-22
Red Beastmaster 24-Jun-22
tecum-tha 30-Jun-22
From: Broadheads&Brass Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 17-Jun-22




So after a call with LCA out in Penn. I was looking at there website to see they only had two brands of glue on nocks for sale. I called to talk to a tech, He told me Glue on nocks will no longer be made. Also was told Bohning will not be making anymore glue on nocks. I called Bohning to find out that isn't true. Tech at LCA also told me no one any longer are buying wood shafts.

Has anyone else heard any of this ? Or is LCA just trying to get away fully from trad archery ?

From: fdp
Date: 17-Jun-22




Well....I don't think LCA is trying to "get away fully from traditional archery" depending on your definition of "traditional archery".

I haven't heard it and find it difficult to believe that NO ONE would be making glue on nocks. It seems that your call with Bohning led to your learning that it isn't true at least in their case.

From: Andy Man
Date: 17-Jun-22




No

I prefer them

Tribute

Jazz

Claccic aluminum shafts are staged and woods

From: Babysaph Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 17-Jun-22




You just said Bohning said it wasn’t true

From: GLF
Date: 17-Jun-22




Lol ,5 years ago a shop manager said single seam shooting gloves such as hills were no longer made. Btw I use AE glue on nocks.

From: Broadheads&Brass Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 17-Jun-22




Jack, I know what I said. I just wonder why LCA would say such a thing to a customer. I also was wording if anyone else had heard the same thing. the Tech at LCA said no one anymore will be making glue on nocks.

From: fdp
Date: 17-Jun-22




Like GLF said above....you "hear" stuff like that all the time.

When carbons came out it was the end of aluminum arrows according to many. When aluminum and glass came out it was then end of wood and on and on.

The tech at Lancaster probably told you what he believes to be true. And MAYBE they are going to quit carrying glue on nocks and wooden shafts. They have been moving more in the "modern" recurve direction for a long time and more so every year.

From: Sasquatch73
Date: 17-Jun-22




I have 2000 5/16 speed nocks in the trade thread if anyone is worried about future. :)) There is so much archery inventory out there.........there will always be glue on knocks available.

From: Babysaph Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 17-Jun-22




Buy a bunch now. That’s what I do. I just bought a pile of Easton Axis arrows. I know they will stop making them

From: Orion Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 17-Jun-22




All it says is that LCA doesn't want to mess with wood shafts or glue on nocks anymore. They'll probably quit selling them fig they haven't already. As you found out, Bohning is continuing to make nocks, and there are a lot of wood shaft suppliers who will be in business for a while as well.

Or, the tech is just a know nothing who is expressing his own views on the subject. If that's the case, I'm sure upper management would like to hear about it.

From: fdp
Date: 17-Jun-22




Just got the 2022-2023 Lancaster "Archer's Wishbook" out of the mailbox. They still have Bohning glue on nocks and wooden shafts/arrows in the catalog.

From: felipe
Date: 17-Jun-22




I just ordered some Rose City cedar shafts and they threw in a couple dozen glue on nocks for free (Marco BJ). Could be they are going to quit selling them in lieu of giving them away.

I just got that catalog too; can't believe they still send those "bibles" out in the mail...

From: Kisatchie
Date: 17-Jun-22




Sounds like you talked to an idiot. Tech told you no one is buying wood shafts? Surewoods is selling them as fast as the guy can mail them out not to mention Wapiti and others. There will be glue on nocks and wood arrows as long as there are bows period

From: M60gunner
Date: 17-Jun-22




I buy mine from AAE by the hundreds.

From: Pdiddly2
Date: 18-Jun-22




Sasquatch..I picked up a bunch of Speed Nocks a few years ago when someone was selling lots. They are a fantastic nock.

Like you say, zillions of glue-on nocks floating around so no worries about having something to glue on the end of a shaft!

From: Nemophilist
Date: 18-Jun-22

Nemophilist's embedded Photo



Glue-on nocks and wood shafts will be made and sold long after us old timers are gone. Here is a picture of half of the glue-on nocks I have so I'm well stocked for life.

From: George D. Stout
Date: 18-Jun-22




Yep, what the two Frank's said, they will always be around. Not sure how stuff like this even gets started. We may be small as a percentage of total archery, but we still have significant numbers to justify the need for glue-on nocks.

From: Bill Rickvalsky
Date: 18-Jun-22




Looking at the quantity of glue on nocks people like Frank have stockpiled I think we all need to order a bunch in anticipation of the coming shortage. We don't want a toilet paper situation here. :-)

From: Seahorse
Date: 18-Jun-22




I make my own self-nocks, but I was wondering if acronyms will ever go away.

From: Nemophilist
Date: 18-Jun-22




Bill I wasn't really stockpiling. A friend of mine about two years ago closed up his archery shop and was selling off his inventory. I couldn't pass up the prices. :)

From: Bill Rickvalsky
Date: 18-Jun-22




Frank,

If that's your story stick to it. You probably said the same thing about toilet paper. :-)

But I do need to order some in my most used colors, white, red and black. I've been getting lucky lately and busted some nocks.

From: Red Beastmaster
Date: 18-Jun-22




LCA?

You guys mentioned Lancaster. LAS is Lancaster Archery Supply.

From: Nemophilist
Date: 18-Jun-22




Bill I didn't have to stock pile toilet paper. I have a bidet. "LOL"

From: Bill Rickvalsky
Date: 18-Jun-22




Frank, LOL. I never considered that as an option when the shortage was going on. I'll have to remember that.

From: Seahorse
Date: 18-Jun-22




Thanks, Red Beastmaster

From: Phil
Date: 18-Jun-22




Who are LCA?

From: Yewbender
Date: 18-Jun-22




Lancaster Archery…huge compound bow store. They have a tiny traditional section and i mean tiny.

From: Longcruise
Date: 18-Jun-22




Well, if they dissappear forever I'll do self nocks.

From: Bowspirit
Date: 18-Jun-22




I mean, it sounds like this particular person was trying to give you false information on a subject they knew little about. I would at least bring it to the attention of the company.

From: fdp
Date: 18-Jun-22




Lancaster has a HUGE selection/assortment of recurve and lingbow related inventory.

They have 20 pages of risers, limbs and bows.

Pages and pages of arrows and assorted nocks.

16 pages of feathers and vanes, 7 pages of tabs and gloves, a huge selection of all types of quivers. More different types of stringers than you are likely to ever see in one spot.

And on and on.

From: babysaph Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member
Date: 18-Jun-22




I don't know why Nemo has all of those knocks. He only needs one arrow. LOL

From: Dad
Date: 18-Jun-22




I was told by LAS that 1816 in the camo hunter wasn't going to be made by Easton also. I haven't called Easton to confirm either way.

From: Bowlim
Date: 19-Jun-22




You can 3d print all that stuff, cheaper, and you could then easily scale them to a precise size by the thou. You could add any feature you want. I don't know how durable or safe the PLA would be, but the ease of printing other plastics is rising. You can print carbon fiber. Good printer for PLA starts at around 170, and you can make fletching jigs, squares, serving jigs, glue in tapered inserts, basically, nothing is going out of stock any time soon. I make fly fishing lures like bass bug bodies, all kinds of stuff. I plant to make a magnetic berger button out of PLA, you can make any rest. You can make molds to mold rests, or limb overlays...

While it has zero relevance to the current discussion, the Army's new battle rifle which operates at 80K psi, from a compound casing, has a 13" barrel, and on the end of that is a silencer that has a super sophisticated interior design, and it is 3D printed. The design was necessary to stop propellant backflow towards the operator through the ejection port. Incredible. If anything I would expect ceramic, but 3D printed, that technology is leaping ahead every day.

From: DanaC
Date: 19-Jun-22




3 Rivers still lists multiple types. If I were worried about it I'd grab a few hundred, but...

https://www.3riversarchery.com/buy/arrows/arrow-building/arrow-nocks

Bowlim, I've seen gun parts that were prototyped by 3D printing. Trigger housings, stocks etc. That was several years ago. One-off stuff to get pre-production actions out to the test range.

From: M60gunner
Date: 19-Jun-22




I don’t know who you talked to but the young man I talked to yesterday hadn’t heard that rumor. What’s in the store is not a good comparison to what’s available in catalog I found out . Wanting certain feathers he pulled out a tub for me to sort through. I saw glue on nocks on the rack as well. No, not much trad stuff but I bet I was only guy of about 30-40 people asking about trad stuff.

From: Jon Stewart
Date: 19-Jun-22




I have maybe couple thousand 5/16 snap on type nocks although I have been force feeding them to some folks on here when I do a trade I toss some in.

Rumors are just that, rumors.

From: Red Beastmaster
Date: 19-Jun-22




I'd say LAS's modern/trad product ratio matches the modern/trad archer ratio. Then add in all of their target recurves and related products and you have a huge selection of non-compound items.

From: Osr144
Date: 23-Jun-22




Buying knocks is something I don't have to do.I make all my knocks .My current knocks are made from ebony .Bone and horn is nice too.There is plenty of glue on knocks still around though. I think it's all visious rumours Osr

From: bradsmith2010santafe
Date: 23-Jun-22




maybe get a second opinion,,,

From: Breakfast Boy Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 23-Jun-22




Whoever you talked to at LAS must have gotten their information from CNN or Facebook.

From: Downcanyon
Date: 23-Jun-22




I'm glad they haven't quit making hack saws!

From: GLF
Date: 23-Jun-22




One dumb question. Who is lca. Or guy were you spaking of some shop other thas n lancaster archery supply/las.

From: Red Beastmaster
Date: 24-Jun-22




Probably meant LAS. Look at your own spelling (spaking, thas n)????? The spelling is horrendous on Leatherwall.

From: tecum-tha Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 30-Jun-22




Lol. LAS never haa a large selection of glue on nocks because this is not their primary market. They have Marco nocks and some AAE and Marco discontinued some sizes like the 7/32". Unless you shoot the Tribute, Jazz etc. in very weak spines, there is no shortage of nocks.... I don't blame any shop to only carry one or two brand of nocks. You don't order or stock what you don't sell.





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