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what bow best represents Fred Bear

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bradsmith2010santafe 22-May-22
fdp 22-May-22
longshot1959 22-May-22
David Mitchell 22-May-22
Seneca_Archer 22-May-22
Uncle Lijiah 22-May-22
Boker 22-May-22
bradsmith2010santafe 22-May-22
Car54 22-May-22
Nemophilist 22-May-22
fdp 22-May-22
Jegs.mi 22-May-22
Gray Goose Shaft 22-May-22
mangonboat 22-May-22
Don T. Lewis 22-May-22
allegheny 22-May-22
George D. Stout 22-May-22
SB 22-May-22
longshot1959 22-May-22
Corax_latrans 23-May-22
Harleywriter 23-May-22
cacciatore 23-May-22
Fiddler 23-May-22
Nemophilist 23-May-22
hawkeye in PA 23-May-22
Nemophilist 23-May-22
PhantomWolf 23-May-22
hawkeye in PA 23-May-22
bradsmith2010santafe 23-May-22
reddogge 23-May-22
Ollie 23-May-22
Stan 23-May-22
Murph 23-May-22
Fisher 23-May-22
Fisher 23-May-22
DanaC 24-May-22
Buzz 24-May-22
Runner 24-May-22
Supernaut 25-May-22
droptine59 25-May-22
Lowellhigh79 18-Jul-22
babysaph 18-Jul-22
shandorweiss 19-Jul-22
Kodiak 19-Jul-22
Maynard 19-Jul-22
Bassmaster 19-Jul-22
longbow1968 19-Jul-22
longshot1959 19-Jul-22
Mike E 19-Jul-22
N Y Yankee 19-Jul-22
Mountain Man 19-Jul-22
hvac tech 19-Jul-22
GNhunter 19-Jul-22
Babysaph 20-Jul-22
Babysaph 20-Jul-22
Altitude Sickness 20-Jul-22
crookedstix 20-Jul-22
Nemophilist 20-Jul-22
Jim 20-Jul-22
Altitude Sickness 20-Jul-22
Hunter Dave 20-Jul-22
Nemophilist 20-Jul-22
Heat 20-Jul-22
Rgiesey 20-Jul-22
BillyJack1975 20-Jul-22
pondscum2 21-Jul-22
Will tell 21-Jul-22
B.T. 21-Jul-22
Tool maker 02-Mar-24
N Y Yankee 04-Mar-24
TradToTheBone 04-Mar-24
BEARMAN 04-Mar-24
From: bradsmith2010santafe
Date: 22-May-22




I have never owned one, but want a Bear,, which one best represents his legacy,, if I could just get one,,???

From: fdp
Date: 22-May-22




The takedown of course.

From: longshot1959
Date: 22-May-22




I would say the Super Kodiak, just my opinion.

From: David Mitchell
Date: 22-May-22




I agree, take down.

From: Seneca_Archer
Date: 22-May-22




The Bear T/D. His crowning design achievement and hunting bow of choice.

From: Uncle Lijiah
Date: 22-May-22




He also wrote that he preferred 60" amo for himself.

From: Boker
Date: 22-May-22




With out a doubt the TD. From all my reading it was the benchmark of all his accomplishments.

Secondly, In my mind I’d say a 59 Kodiak just because of bows on the little delta.

From: bradsmith2010santafe
Date: 22-May-22




would I need to get an old one, or the new ones ok,,

From: Car54 Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 22-May-22




What draw length did Fred have?

From: Nemophilist
Date: 22-May-22

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In my opinion even though he shot other model bows from Bear Archery I would have to say the Grayling Type 1 or Grayling Type 2 Bear Kodiak Takedowns at 65#@28" (B-riser with #1 Limbs).

From: fdp
Date: 22-May-22




Fred said his draw length wasv28" and his arrows were 29".

Brad it really wouldn't matter if it was old or new.

From: Jegs.mi Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 22-May-22




Yes definitely the take down. Culmination of his design efforts.

From: Gray Goose Shaft
Date: 22-May-22




The Bear take-down bow listed in the classifieds is awful nice.

From: mangonboat
Date: 22-May-22




The iconic Fred Bear bow is the 1957 Kodiak he used as a wading staff in Alaska before shooting a costal brown bear at a range under 15 yards. Fred was a proficient marketer of all Bear products, including the TD, but at heart he was a hunter, not a collector of closet queens.

From: Don T. Lewis
Date: 22-May-22




Try one first. Remember it’s all about the fit. Bear made many different models. You might like how another model shoots better. They all Represent Fred’s legacy. Good luck!

From: allegheny
Date: 22-May-22




Kodiak TD. And, as Nemophilist noted, Fred shot a B riser with #1 limbs.

From: George D. Stout
Date: 22-May-22




A Kodiak in its many forms over the years, including the Custom Kodiak T/D which he settled into. Most of his hunting years took place before the takedown and he was in his mid to late 60's when he got it completed. I think he once said, when asked what his favorite bow was, that it would be a 1964 Kodiak. Can't remember who brought it up and when, but I believe that's what he said. Interesting for sure.

Brad, try to find one to see how you like it, I think any Kodiak would be well representative of Fred.

From: SB
Date: 22-May-22




Super Kodiak...unless you have deep pockets.

From: longshot1959
Date: 22-May-22




Wait! Let me put on my helmet and pads for this, The bow most representative of Fred Bear is the Grizzly. It is perhaps the most iconic mass-produced bow in history and is the peak of Fred Bear's mission in this sport. To bring the joy of Archery and Bowhunting to the working class masses.

From: Corax_latrans
Date: 23-May-22




“The iconic Fred Bear bow is the 1957 Kodiak he used as a wading staff in Alaska before shooting a costal brown bear at a range under 15 yards. ”

That’s the one that came to mind for me….

From: Harleywriter
Date: 23-May-22




Super Kodiak

From: cacciatore Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 23-May-22




If you really want something that can a testimonial of Fred Bear buy a bow that is a Grayling era original

From: Fiddler
Date: 23-May-22




Which bow best represents Fred Bear? Why, a left-handed one, of course!

From: Nemophilist
Date: 23-May-22

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Now that I thought more about it properly this one:

Bear "Fred Bear Signature Takedown Bow" Autographed by Fred Bear (1981). There was supposed to be 999 made, but Fred Bear died before all of them were made. They were personally designed, numbered, and signed by Fred Bear. They sold for $1,000 in 1981.

Includes 22 karat gold plated limb mounts, clear glass and custom display box. The limbs are Yew wood with clear glass. The Yew for these bows was cut and seasoned by Earl Ulrich, at age 91. Earl selected Yew for bows all his life in the high mountains of Oregon. The riser is made of Brazilian Rosewood with decorative fiberglass tips.

You will need real deep pockets to buy one of these now days.

From: hawkeye in PA
Date: 23-May-22




Good morning Frank, I seen your post on the Fred Bear signature takedown. What are they going for now? They were way out of my budget when they introduced them!

From: Nemophilist
Date: 23-May-22




Jeff last I seen on the big auction site they were asking between $7,000 and $8,000. Way past my budget.

From: PhantomWolf
Date: 23-May-22




Frank, that signature takedown is just beautiful!! I really wonder if any owners have ever shot theirs? Couldn't imagine not wanting to shoot one but then again who knows? Oh well, I'll never have to debate that decision :).

From: hawkeye in PA
Date: 23-May-22




I seen one being shot on the practice range at ETAR some years back. Sure was a beautiful looking bow.

From: bradsmith2010santafe
Date: 23-May-22




wow what a beautiful bow,,

From: reddogge
Date: 23-May-22




In his "Field Notes" he mentions he used the current year's Kodiak model each year on his hunts all the way up to the take down so any Kodiak, Super Kodiak, or take down would be worthy.

From: Ollie Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 23-May-22




When I think of Fred, I remember lots of pics of him with a Super Kodak. Perhaps not the best bow made by Bear Archery but seemed to be a favorite of Fred’s in his later years.

From: Stan
Date: 23-May-22




As far as " Legacy goes... Any bow with the Bear logo..

From: Murph
Date: 23-May-22




I'm thinkin the 1964 Kodiak.And it is truely one of the best>

From: Fisher
Date: 23-May-22




A Left-Handed Bear bow made in Grayling, Michigan. I suggest the black and rosewood Super Kodiak.

From: Fisher
Date: 23-May-22




A Left-Handed Bear bow made in Grayling, Michigan. I suggest the black and rosewood Super Kodiak.

From: DanaC
Date: 24-May-22




A plain one. Fred's greatest legacy isn't the fancy bows but bringing _affordable_ bows to the average wage-earner.

From: Buzz
Date: 24-May-22

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Ditto Fiddler and Fisher.

From: Runner
Date: 24-May-22




Grumley Osage Deerslayer. The pinnacle.

From: Supernaut
Date: 25-May-22




I'd have to agree with Nemo and say the "Fred Bear Signature Takedown Bow" since Fred did pick it out to represent himself.

I love all Bear bows and appreciate what Mr. Bear did for our sport and his continued influence and legacy.

From: droptine59
Date: 25-May-22

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Yep. Kodiak T/D

From: Lowellhigh79
Date: 18-Jul-22




I once saw a list of owners of the Signature Takedown. I own #187 and recently purchased #99. Anyone know who haskept a record of the owners? Thanks

From: babysaph Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member
Date: 18-Jul-22




I hope that wooden one is quieter than my Mag riser. LOL

From: shandorweiss
Date: 19-Jul-22

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Fred Bear was an innovator. He kept introducing new designs of the same models, and new models. Everything changed at least a little from year to year. Some changes were dramatic. Like the take down. But in my view the most dramatic innovation was the 1959 Kodiak. Imagine seeing maple bows... and some with walnut and a bit of rosewood... year after year. And then a new design with a bigger riser, and made of all exotic and beautiful... and dense... Brazilian rosewood. Plus an I beam/window of maple, purpleheart, bubinga or rosewood. It must have blown peoples' minds. Both the looks, and the performance.

Then in 1960, the 59 Kodiak was improved even though it looked almost the same. One of the best bows Bear ever made, IMO.

In 1960 he also introduced the Kodiak Deluxe and Kodiak Special Deluxe, with matching zebrawood veneer limbs under clear glass. Bear only produced those bows for 1 year, but they changed the history of bow making. Years later all the top bowyers make custom bows with exotic wood veneers under clear glass. Fred Bear either was the first to do it, or the first to make it popular. Those 1960 Deluxe bows are still probably the most beautiful bows Bear ever made. And among the best shooters.

The 2020 Limited Edition Series #3, a 59 Kodiak replica with macassar ebony riser, bubinga I beam and waterfall bubinga veneers under clear glass, is IMO the modern bow that represents Fred the most. The iconic 59 Kodiak, with the beauty of the Deluxe bows' veneers under clear glass. They also have a low cut radiused shelf, the way Fred made his personal bows. And they are terrific shooters. If you can find one of those new or used... you'd be a thinking of Fred Bear every time you held it.

From: Kodiak
Date: 19-Jul-22




Oh I think probably the takedown or the '59 Kodiak. Those two really stand out to me.

From: Maynard
Date: 19-Jul-22




Super Kodiak.

From: Bassmaster
Date: 19-Jul-22




May or may not be Fred's pick ,but the 1964 Kodiak.

From: longbow1968
Date: 19-Jul-22




I always liked how after crossing the river, Fred tosses his bow up in the alders while he climbs up the bank;) He obviously believed in his equipment and didn’t have to baby it. That being said, I’m gonna vote pre-takedown Kodiak.

From: longshot1959
Date: 19-Jul-22




The Grizzly. The Workingman's bow, making Archery and Bowhunting affordable to all. Maybe the most plentiful and successful bow model ever made.

From: Mike E
Date: 19-Jul-22




Innovation/Design,,, The K Mag,, adjustable side plate, 3 grips, 3 limbs, 3 lengths, all in one riser.

From: N Y Yankee
Date: 19-Jul-22




If you want a one-piece, a Super Kodiak. If you want a take-down, The Kodiak TD of course. Just my $0.02.

From: Mountain Man
Date: 19-Jul-22




Id recommend you get Fred’s books and the book’s written about Pap Bear and then you determine what your opinion of what bow honors him best Id bet he’d tell you to find what works best for you in the woods or ranges He was a great man we all owe a debt of gratitude to you Ive try’d honoring him by owning alot of different Bear model bows and getting an idea of all the differences in them My first bow was a Bear and theres been atleast one Bear bow on my rack since

From: hvac tech
Date: 19-Jul-22




I know a fellow that i worked with he lives near here that bought a signature new when they came out. Not sure if he still has it he probably does .

From: GNhunter Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 19-Jul-22




Kodiak TD. A design way ahead of its time.

From: Babysaph Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 20-Jul-22




Frankenbow

From: Babysaph Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 20-Jul-22




Frankenbow

From: Altitude Sickness
Date: 20-Jul-22




Before 1959 the Bear bows were all just someone else’s design. So for me everything after 1958. Not that it matters but my favorites are the ‘59 and ‘60 Kodiak.

But from everything I’ve read. I think Fred was most proud of the T/D

From: crookedstix
Date: 20-Jul-22




It's worth noting that a lot of the "Fred Bear designs" in the 60's were actually Bill Stewart designs...

From: Nemophilist
Date: 20-Jul-22




It's not surprising that a lot of the owners of archery companies had bowyers working for them that designed and built quite a few of their bows. Gail Martin had Larry Hatfield.

From: Jim Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 20-Jul-22




I think its the 60" B riser take down.

From: Altitude Sickness
Date: 20-Jul-22




And don’t forget Owen Jeffery

From: Hunter Dave
Date: 20-Jul-22




Gotta go with the Kodiak takedown B handle.

From: Nemophilist
Date: 20-Jul-22




Owen Jeffery was also bowyer for Shakespeare.

From: Heat Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 20-Jul-22




Kodiak or Takedown, not Kodiak Magnum or Kodiak Hunter, or even the Super Kodiak. Kodiak to me is the plain Kodiak that was made until 1966. He did use the Takedown from the time it came out until his death.

From: Rgiesey
Date: 20-Jul-22

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Here’s a picture of Fred at Anderson Archery asking me what my bow shot through the chronograph. He wasn’t happy with the 186fps. I was shooting 2419s but couldn’t tell him the weight of my arrows. He was intense and scared my buddy. He was our hero.

The Smithsonian has a 1967 super kodiak displayed as The most perfect form of technology and art. I still believe the kodiak takedown was the pinnacle of modern hunting bows.

From: BillyJack1975
Date: 20-Jul-22




I agree, Kodiak takedowns. Love my 2 I own.

From: pondscum2
Date: 21-Jul-22




i'm used to being hated, so...i pick the 1963 Kodiak, the infamous dogleg. the Magnums from that year underwent three complete make- overs, as Fred & Company worked on it. that year was the start of the process that became the Super Kodiak run at the top ...a very influential time for Bear Archery. if i was a millionaire, however, i'd try to buy his '57 that he killed his huge sheep with. you can't really go wrong...

From: Will tell
Date: 21-Jul-22




What bow best represents Bear Archery. I know his favorite was the Kodiak but the Grizzly was the bow most archers could afford. The Grizzly is my favorite bow. I bought a new Grizzly this year and only paid $400.00. You can get cheaper recurves but your not going ,to get a better Recurve at that price.

From: B.T.
Date: 21-Jul-22




The Grizzly made the Bear Archery company, it was their bread and butter product. The Kodiak/Super Kodiak was the pinnacle of Bears one piece bows, the Kodiak T/D was always a low volume, quirky T/D bow, it still is.

From: Tool maker
Date: 02-Mar-24




I’m on my 4th takedown. Loved them all.

From: N Y Yankee
Date: 04-Mar-24




Whenever I think about Fred Bear, I cant help but think about the Super Kodiak. That's probably why I own 4 of them and 2 takedowns. The takedown Kodiak is an iconic bow in the world of archery as well but the Super K really gets me.

From: TradToTheBone
Date: 04-Mar-24




Why limit yourself to just one model. Buy several and be happy.

From: BEARMAN Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 04-Mar-24




The takedown was a failure as far as sales and popularity at the time.He used one because of the ease of travel on airplanes. As far as performance, he made many bows that were superior. His quality and craftsmanship throughout his career represents his legacy. Not to mention everything he did for conservation and bow hunter world wide.





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