Traditional Archery Discussions on the Leatherwall

Why Black Widow??

Messages posted to thread:
longshot1959 08-Apr-22
Jeff Durnell 08-Apr-22
Uncle Lijiah 08-Apr-22
Jim 08-Apr-22
Thumper 08-Apr-22
Don T. Lewis 08-Apr-22
Red Dogs 08-Apr-22
Shawn 08-Apr-22
babysaph 08-Apr-22
CritterGitter62 09-Apr-22
Altitude Sickness 09-Apr-22
Will tell 09-Apr-22
MCNSC 09-Apr-22
N Y Yankee 09-Apr-22
Candyman 09-Apr-22
Dartwick 09-Apr-22
Foggy Mountain 09-Apr-22
Osr144 25-May-22
Catskills 25-May-22
Gary Savaloja 25-May-22
MattS 25-May-22
bodymanbowyer 25-May-22
Boker 26-May-22
Desperado 26-May-22
From: longshot1959
Date: 08-Apr-22

Why do so many questionable and outright scam ads involve Black Widow bows? Where are the scams for bargain priced Bears?

From: Jeff Durnell
Date: 08-Apr-22

Geeze, I took that thread title too literally... and didn't have a good answer.

But you're right, they do.

Easy targets.

From: Uncle Lijiah
Date: 08-Apr-22

Black Widow bows are well-known and they have high value. If a scammer advertises a Widow for sale at a bargain price, he knows somebody out is thinking they have to jump on the deal fast before it's gone.

From: Jim Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 08-Apr-22

Because more people want a Black Widow because of the quality and they can usually buy one for less than a new one. So scammers target them.

From: Thumper Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 08-Apr-22

Same reason Toyotas always get title pawned.

Or the same kinda thoughts as why people don't usually counterfeit one dollar bills.

Always in demand and always cost a lot.

From: Don T. Lewis
Date: 08-Apr-22

Because the scammers have Infiltrated us. They have planted spies over the years. And they know the Black Widow guys are very loyal and easy prey;) Hard core Bear guys wouldn’t fall for there BS. Because old vintage Bears you don’t get good deals on. You pay full price and it’s not negotiable;) so that’s why Black Widow;)

From: Red Dogs Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 08-Apr-22

I always figured it’s because if they know you were duped into buyin a Widow once you are easily fooled :)

From: Shawn
Date: 08-Apr-22

Red Dogs times ten. Widows without a doubt have great cusomer service and a well known name but as far as looks and performance they are rough!! Shawn

From: babysaph Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member
Date: 08-Apr-22

Because they are the best bows and everyone wants one.

From: CritterGitter62
Date: 09-Apr-22

If you closed your eyes and shot a BW, A Bob Lee, a Morrison, a Stalker etc would you really know the difference? About as all you would notice is the grip, given if the specs were the same for each. And the arrow would likely hit the same spot too. Don't be duped by high advertising due to blind sales.

From: Altitude Sickness
Date: 09-Apr-22

Altitude Sickness 's embedded Photo

I’m definitely not saying they are the best. But I wouldn’t call them rough. My two KBX

From: Will tell
Date: 09-Apr-22

More money

Date: 09-Apr-22

Well known + high value +high demand = scum scammers

From: N Y Yankee
Date: 09-Apr-22

What Lijiah said.

From: Candyman
Date: 09-Apr-22

I don't know if I would take the risk of buying anymore. Every time I look at a bow for sale and check they have no history or worse they have no posts for ten years and then two posts this year and an add in the classifieds. Even with using PayPal for security if you do get scammed you still have to go through the hassle of getting your money back. It's a sad state of affairs.

From: Dartwick
Date: 09-Apr-22

They are high dollar, many people like them - and theres a lot of them out there.

Theres a lot of Bears out there - but they simply arent as valuable. If you going to run a scam use a high dollar item.

The number in circulation is a big deal too. It makes your scam more plausible.

From: Foggy Mountain
Date: 09-Apr-22

Cause the scammers figure the guys that’d buy widows ain’t that smart? Just kidding I have no idea

From: Osr144
Date: 25-May-22

I got another name for scammers Scumbags.I don't shoot BW's or own one but they are great bows from what I can gather.Some poor guy or gal may love to own one .They may be on a tight budget and can't justify the price of a new BW.Their option will be a good used one.These scumbags just prey on good folks vulnerabilities.I hope karma catches up with them. Osr

From: Catskills
Date: 25-May-22

The urge for some to buy a BW is similar to an addiction, and scammers prey on that.

From: Gary Savaloja
Date: 25-May-22


Just be diligent in taking precautionary steps.

I just bought a really nice Black Widow from a guy here. We talked back and forth quite a few times. I asked a lot of questions and he answered all of them. He even complied with taking an extra photo for me. Everything went perfect and I am very pleased to have a Black Widow PSAX in the stable. And in the right weight and length, that I wanted. It’s a really beauty.

From: MattS
Date: 25-May-22

I guess bad press by the scammers mean more folks talk about BW. Wonder if these scams actually increase BW sales - lol.

From: bodymanbowyer
Date: 25-May-22

Of course the scammers would pick a high-priced bow that so many people want. Why would they pick anything else to go for. You see a low price your thinking,Wow! I Got to have it. That's why they do it. That's my opinion. JF

From: Boker
Date: 26-May-22

I have shot a lot of trad bows and if I was starting over today I’d order two BW’s and call it a day.

There’s a reason why scammers choose them.

From: Desperado
Date: 26-May-22

Red Dogs & Shawn are full of deer pellets....Baby Saph is 100% correct. I have 3 Widows & have never shot a better bow. Jim you are also 100% correct. Des

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