From: Live2Hunt
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Date: 02-Feb-22 |
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So, I watched a very good video with Tom Clum last night on correct shooting form and shoulder injuries. He shows and explains why you injure your shoulders while shooting. Great video for all shooters. But now for some stupid reason it does not come up for me to link on here. I have been drawing different the past few years making sure I am using my back which has helped with shoulder pain. But the reasons why are explained well by Tom. Again, great resource for all shooters.
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From: Dry Bones
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Date: 02-Feb-22 |
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Tom has a lot of information out there about form and technique. Tom has a way of explaining things that I think many people can understand. He seems like one of the good ones. I know I have emailed them in the past and had good conversations.
-Bones
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From: kstradhunter
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Date: 02-Feb-22 |
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Possibly this one?
https://youtu.be/RRRnt1Zk7UI
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From: Car54
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Date: 02-Feb-22 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nr3F96kqv9k&t=1271s
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From: Southpawky
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Date: 02-Feb-22 |
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I’ve watched toms videos and have talked to him. he is the real deal. He helped me immensely. He has all the knowledge as all the top rated coaches but simplifies and teaches it to bow hunters. He has a course you can buy and I highly recommend it. When I started shooting traditional, watching all the ol’guys snap shooting and everything else, I picked it up and tried to do like them, I learned that it works to a certain degree but the accuracy wasn’t what I wanted and developed target panic awful. having a dedicated shooting platform and not pulling back and just letting it rip changed my game 100% plus my shoulders
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From: Smokey
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Date: 02-Feb-22 |
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This is some of the best advice for anyone who shoots a bow and arrow!
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From: Live2Hunt
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Date: 02-Feb-22 |
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Thanks 1buck, that's the one. The one thing that makes total sense is the way he explains what happens to your shoulder if your follow through is straight back and the damage it does. I really do not want to damage myself to not be able to shoot anymore.
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From: Ybuck
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Date: 02-Feb-22 |
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love his content as well
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From: sagebrush
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Date: 02-Feb-22 |
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Tom is a good guy,stopped by his place a few times
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From: Tomas
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Date: 02-Feb-22 |
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Thanks for posting, I think this is going to help a lot.
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From: Orion
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Date: 02-Feb-22 |
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A lot of guys have tried to explain the how and why of back tension and the rotational draw, but i think Tom's first video is about the best I've seen on the topic(s).
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From: Ned
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Date: 02-Feb-22 |
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I will tell you without a doubt one of the really good guys out there. I am lucky enough to be just 15 minutes from his shop and shoot a 3-D league on Friday nights that he shoots. Just last week he spent 2 hours helping me get the right setupo for a bow I was having trouble with. He is just a really good guy.
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From: Altitude Sickness
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Date: 02-Feb-22 |
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I use my therapy bands as he shows. It helps with shoulder rotation and back tension.
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From: Great Falls
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Date: 02-Feb-22 |
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I’ve found the bands to be a great warmup aid right before going out to practice
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From: Dartwick
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Date: 02-Feb-22 |
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Watching that first video - does that mean a static release is the best thing for the shoulder?
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From: skipmaster1
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Date: 03-Feb-22 |
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Dartwick- a static release isn’t bad for the shoulder if you draw with your back. I think the worst for your shoulder is trying for a dynamic release but not using your back. I find that I’d I try a completely static release, I get a very slight collapse at release that I can see in slow motion video. It ends up hurting my accuracy a bit.
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From: Therifleman
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Date: 03-Feb-22 |
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Tom puts out excellent content on the intricacies of solid form. Arne Moe and Todd S (Bowmania) have also provided great guidance in this area. They're not only knowledgeable, but go out of their way to help in a very personable and humble way.
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From: George D. Stout
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Date: 03-Feb-22 |
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It's good to see many good videos on form, and that people are actually watching them and paying attention. I have personally noticed that in the last decade shooters are becoming more attentive to repeatable form. I see many really good shooters on the lines at Denton Hill and also up at the Pa. Bowhunter Festival. It's heartening to see and it's good for the sport of archery, and particularly bowhunting.
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From: Dan Jones
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Date: 03-Feb-22 |
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One of the most valuable threads that I've ever seen on the Leatherwall. Unfortunately, I already have rotator cuff injuries in both shoulders.
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From: Live2Hunt
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Date: 04-Feb-22 |
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The big thing Tom points out is how the shoulder reacts after the shot and the jarring effect on your shoulder if you go straight back after the shot. Focusing on your back as explained almost naturally makes the shoulder swing down and behind so you do not have that jarring effect. It has definitely totally reduce any shoulder issues I had from shooting and it is just a smoother cleaner release.
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From: elkster
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Date: 04-Feb-22 |
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Yes, it is a great resource explained well by Tom. His online course is worth buying if you like the video posted in this thread.
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From: Jason D
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Date: 05-Feb-22 |
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These two videos posted up above should be seen by every archer!
Tom is the real deal for sure! A great guy and super knowledgeable!
Arnie Moe also teaches a very similar style with his rotational draw and very much better for our shoulders than the straight back linear draw that most everybody does.
J.
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From: Jack Whitmrie jr
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Date: 22-Jun-22 |
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Been watching his videos this summer, love his coaching style.
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From: Foggy Mountain
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Date: 22-Jun-22 |
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That guy is really good. His thoughts and explanations awesome too imo
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From: flint kemper
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Date: 22-Jun-22 |
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What bands does Tom use that we can purchase.
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From: Mtquiver
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Date: 22-Jun-22 |
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Must agree with George; it appears that there are a number of really good shooters at 3D shoots nowadays, whether you call it instinctive or point of aim, or gap shooting or whatever form they take on. Really good shooters these days and it very well may be due to the plethora of videos on shooting form. It’s just fun to witness “Traditional” bows being shot with such precision. Funny thing is that many seem to be from Pa. Must be something in the water…..or other liquid refreshments being consumed over there.
Stay Safe/Shoot Straight. MT
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From: manybows
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Date: 22-Jun-22 |
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Thank you Tom Clunn I wish I would have known that info 4 decades ago, it would have prevented shoulder surgery. Take head young archers don't get overbowed what ever you do and have proper form.
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From: Altitude Sickness
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Date: 23-Jun-22 |
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MT, An area in PA produced many of the best athletes of all time also
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From: Katman
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Date: 23-Jun-22 |
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Watched the video couple weeks ago, thinking of moving L2 made back tension easy.
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From: GLF
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Date: 23-Jun-22 |
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That's half of how I shoot. He describes my string arm/shoulder perfectly. But my problem is my bow arm. I just can't consistantly keep my bow shoulder down. Maybe know more detail will help me. No shoulder problems yet but I'm due.
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From: BenMaher
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Date: 23-Jun-22 |
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Tom's coaching gave me my archery back.
One of the true gentleman in not only archery , but life.
One of the great privileges of my life has been being able to call him my friend.
And as a coach ? Outstanding.
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From: BenMaher
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Date: 25-Jun-22 |
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Stix,
Down Under my friend !
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