[URL= https://www.backcountryhunters.org/take_action? utm_campaign=help_stop_huntingba n&utm_medium=email&utm_source=ba ckcountryhunters#/251

well that didn't work...

I just tried finding it through Google but couldn't. If you can get us a link that works I will comment.

https://www.backcountryhunters.org/take_action? utm_campaign=help_stop_huntingba n&utm_medium=email&utm_source=ba ckcountryhunters#/251

Thanks Rick! I got mine off.

Why do they vote those kind of yahoos in any how?;)

Done... Thanks for the heads up!

Here in Oregon they banned dogs for hunting cougar back in the 90's and it's had a profound affect on our deer populations. I can't imagine banning hunting them entirely, although I don't know that hunters really make much of a dent without dogs.

Fired my shot over the bow.

Rick, thanks for correcting the link. I just signed.

The tsunami of CA residents moving to CO is likely the root of this latest move to eliminate hunting.

And Stix, thanks for bringing this to our attention.

Got stupid people believing in roses & unicorns! They have absolutely NO knowledge of ecology or wildlife and make a total mess of things. Remember the trail cam of the deer with the mountain line about 3 feet behind? That was SCARY as hell!

Use Rick's link and get those emails sent!!!

It took about 2 minutes of my time to have an email sent to every senator in Colorado. Thanks for the link Rick.

Emails sent!

Why do they vote those yahoos in? Because Denver and surrounding area are mostly transplants from statea that banned cougar hunting and they brought their agendas with them.

Done- hope it helps

I'd like to ask everyone signing off on rejecting this anti hunting bill to mention it to family and friends. Thanks.

I am old enough to know that when someone sticks a clipboard in my face, in this case a digital clipboard, and says, 'Sign this petition, I better ask some questions about what its all about. And this is no exception. I'm not in Colorado but know how to use Google.

The recently-introduced bill is a classic example of $pecial interest$ on both sides and a lot of BS pitted against science and common sense. The reality is that rich Asians want to wear soft, spotted fur coats. There are no spotted critters on the planet that can be legally harvested except North American bobcats and lynx. Ergo: rich Asians have driven the price for western bobcat and lynx pelts through the roof, to the tune of $2K for ONE prime pelt. As you can imagine, folks who knew very little about hunting and trapping bobcats and lynx have jumped into that occupation and their lack of skill and ethics is giving a bad name to an undertaking that a small number of folks have been doing for decades.

One problematic trait of these new feline hunters and trappers is a propensity to shoot whatever they trap or tree, regardless of species, age or gender. As a result, the reported harvest of bobcats in Colorado has quadrupled in the past 3 years and the UNREPORTED illegal harvest of lynx and 'by-product' mountain lion has also skyrocketed if the volume of the fur trade is any indicator.

A key part of the Colorado game and fish folks mountain lion management plan has been to improve species ,age and gender identifcation to avoid this exact problem. Hunters and trappers are required to pass an identifcation course in order to get a license. Because the overwhelming majority of mountain lion hunting invoplves treeing lions with dogs, that creates an opprtunity for close examination of the treed cat in order to identify and avoid shooting a lynx, a lion female or kitten. Colorao uses a kill-limit system for each unit where lion hunting is involved . Fewer than 20% of the designated GM untis allow ANY lion harvest, for a state-wide total limit of less than 800 lions and actual harvest around 500, which is the number calculated to sustain the population at healthy levels.

The Colorado game folks have opposed this bill and previous similar bills , asserting that there are no reliable statistics on overall bobcat, lynx and mountain lion populations and harvest impact. Conversely, a US District Court judge ordered a halt to Colorado's lion management plan in March 2021 precisely because they were using federal dollars to operate the plan but had made minimal to no effort to conduct impact studies to support the plan, a federal requirement.

Long story short, you've got opportunistic cat hunter$, sheep and cattle ranchers, fur buyers and Chinese importers lined up against PETA folks and federal law and the game management professionals caught in the middle, trying to do their low-paying job with inadequate funding and information while better paid folks on both sides are playing dark money politics.

Under these circumatances, I am going to write to the bill sponsors suggesting that they should pay more for slaries and research programs and pay more attention to wildlife management professionals than lobbyists but I am not going to be just one more line on a knee-jerk petition. End of rant.

In my opinion the boilerplate in mangonboats post is a smoke screen to stop hunting, the ultimate objective of antis. Many of the same people would also like to ban fishing "Fish have feelings too." or other mind blowing nonsense.

As for poachers, they could care less about the law. I happen to know a guy that brags about he and his boys 'getting our share'. As for poaching for money, what you gonna do about that. Money is ALWAYS the incentive. Especially $$$ easy money. They're gonna do what they're gonna do.

As for Asian demand, a yea vote isn't gonna change that. Most Asian culture involves eating live critters, grinding rhino horn for pecker performance, and now this fur coat thing, which I never heard of until now. Is it the truth, or smoke and mirror from anti hunting, and anti man, liberals?

Totally off topic. I've carpentered on countless new homes for Californians moving to CO since 1983. It's a safe generalization to say, many of the Californians I've met while working on their high end custom homes, are demanding, and feel 'entitled'. They brought the 'entitled' ethics here. That's a very broad generalization but lots of guys I've talked to about this agree. The Springs used to be VERY hardcore Republican when I was a young man, but that is changing.

I have not read the Colorado bill so not sure what's in it, However I lived in California when lion hunting was ban that the tree huggers endorsed. On the back end of that bill it provided 30 million dollars of taxpayers money for 30 YEARS. Thats 900 million to purchase habitat for the lion. When it was all said and done, the fish/wildlife people cannot account for the 900 million. No habitat purchased and no one seems to know where the money went. And the deer herds are almost nonexistent, compared to what they were in the 70-90's.

Bob

Im not personally a fan of hunting Mountain lions - but you need to hunt large predators in some form because it applies a selective pressure that that encourages avoidance of humans.

Dartwick, I asgree 100%. I'm a strong proponent of professionally -regulated, common -sense hunting and trapping of large and not-so- large predators. As you point out, it maintains a population of predators with a healthy fear of humans, just as having native/histoic predators maintains a population of prey species with a healthy fear of predators, as opposed to deer and elk that act more like cows than deer.

As for the "boilerplate in mangonboats post is a smoke screen to stop hunting" somebody has no idea what 'boilerplate' means. Research, accurate facts , identification of the players and potential impact versus knee-jerk hysteria: "The anti's are coming!". This factless reaction is EXACTLY why well-heeled special interests have been manipulating our population like puppets for decades. As for the ranchers. the mountain lions evolved in Asia and have been here for more than 10 million years, somehow managing not to kill every animal in sight, whereas the ranchers, sheep and cattle have been in the western US less than 150 years, and I am supposed to worry about the ranchers who cant figure out how to protect their herds without exterminating all native predators?

Boilerplate is jibber jabber. Jibber jabber could easily be 'antis' legalese smokescreen, to cover the REAL agenda, which of course is to eliminate all hunting. And ultimately eliminate all firearms. IMO.

email sent

Thanks for posting link

Ban on lion hunting will thin out the yuppie joggers in short order!

By eliminating hunters who pay for a license to manage lion numbers they have to use USDA Wildlife Services or state hired professional hunters to control lion numbers which are taxpayer funded, doesn't make much sense.

I'll tell yuh what's next. Plants. Didja know plants have an aura? Yup. They can sense the evil intentions of people about to rip them out of the ground. They scream in horror as we eat them alive. :D

However, nuts and seeds and fruits fall from the tree. Offerings from Gaia, the life giver. :D

You watch. Imma tell yuh plants are gonna be illegal to pull out of the earth and eaten raw here in CO before too long. Nuts, seeds, and fruit will be OK. At least for now. BWAAAhahahaha. lol

Ya well...there ARE plenty of nuts and fruits around!

What's the real possibility of this passing and being signed into law by the Governor? I ask because 'moon bat' bills are introduced every year in every state and in the Federal gov't. They seldom pass muster.

It's politically incorrect to call feel good bills, moon bats. Bill creators are sensitive about fruit bats.

And Wuhan bats!

SB lol,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

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