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Black Eagle Vintage shafts

Messages posted to thread:
Bill Hutton 14-Oct-21
Real Buckmaster 14-Oct-21
Flinger1 14-Oct-21
George D. Stout 14-Oct-21
tacklebox 14-Oct-21
pipcount 14-Oct-21
Bill Hutton 14-Oct-21
Smokedinpa 14-Oct-21
CMF_3 14-Oct-21
Corax_latrans 14-Oct-21
GUTPILEPA 14-Oct-21
Corax_latrans 14-Oct-21
pipcount 14-Oct-21
2Wild Bill 14-Oct-21
kluzakd 14-Oct-21
smrobertson 14-Oct-21
SB 14-Oct-21
Buglmin 14-Oct-21
Harborpilot88 14-Oct-21
Harborpilot88 14-Oct-21
Corax_latrans 15-Oct-21
todd 15-Oct-21
From: Bill Hutton
Date: 14-Oct-21




What is every ones thoughts on the Vintage shaft from Black Eagle?

Looking to give carbon a try, always shot alum shafts.

Thanks

From: Real Buckmaster
Date: 14-Oct-21




I have been shooting them. They seem to be a good shift no issues.

From: Flinger1
Date: 14-Oct-21




Zero complaints so far

From: George D. Stout
Date: 14-Oct-21




There's probably not an enth's worth of difference between most of the shafts made today, and if they are fairly precision made, the spines aren't going to vary either from brand to brand, so it's more a 'what pleases you' thing. That's not a bad thing of course, just not flight related. You can tune any arrow to your bow if you choose the right spine. If they look good, then buy some and try them. They look cool, and the color reminds me of the old Microflite arrows.

From: tacklebox
Date: 14-Oct-21




I've been shooting BEA for several years. Been shooting the Vintages for the past 6 months in a couple different spines. Been happy with them.

From: pipcount
Date: 14-Oct-21




I shot them exclusively for about 1-2 years, probably about 1000- 2000 shots per shaft into compressed straw targets. No complaints on them for quality, fletching, etc. etc.

I do have a modest issue with the wraps: 1. After a year or so there was a fair amount of wear on the wraps. 2. They are a bit heavier GPI than many arrows due to the wraps.

I moved to standard carbon to reduce GPI on my ~30# bows, put more into tip, and went super skinny to improve "cut to center" on some of my bows. But super skinny makes it harder to get inserts, etc working.. For a hunter shooting typical hunting draw weights I would not hesitate to recommend these arrows.

From: Bill Hutton
Date: 14-Oct-21




Thanks guys, I’ll give them a try

From: Smokedinpa
Date: 14-Oct-21




Pretty durable.

From: CMF_3
Date: 14-Oct-21




They are my favorite after using gold tip/beaman/Easton axis traditional/etc. Love the durability and outsert.

From: Corax_latrans
Date: 14-Oct-21




@Pip - wear on the wraps would be a Tuning issue, wouldn’t it??

I have shot a lot of these because my friends have bought them and I get their cast-offs when they damage the front of a full-length arrow….

They’re fine. I foot them with an inch and a half of 2117 and a 2117 rps insert, since I was gifted a good supply of those….

One thing I’ve noticed is that the OD of them is sometimes variable, such that with 500s, it can be challenging to get that footing seated all the way down. 600s are just enough slimmer that I don’t recall that being an issue, but I’ve got several in my to-be-footed pile, so I will let you know.

From: GUTPILEPA
Date: 14-Oct-21




They are a very good shaft love them

From: Corax_latrans
Date: 14-Oct-21




Hmm…

I guess the 600s are so easy to foot that I have all of them footed already!

Really, I think the biggest difference between shafts - at any given price point - comes down to the graphics. And FWIW, these look as good as anything else out there, and probably better. I’m not saying that you can’t buy “better” quality arrows than these, but you will pay for what you get.

From: pipcount
Date: 14-Oct-21




@ Corax_latrans- The wear was uniform around the entire diameter of the front 6-8" of arrows.

Wrap literally wore down (not off) from ~ thousands of shots on each shaft into the compressed bales, friction while landing, and pulls. Arrows shot great, just had wear. I did not really notice it myself, but when I sold them to someone here on the forum they were unhappy- and rightly so! So I discounted and we moved on. I had one spine I used most, and when I had looked at my arrows I missed that one set was worn. Honest mistake, honest fix, everyone happy.

Some target archers replace their arrows every now and then due to same issue, changing spine of front of arrows. It is just easier to see on wraps. On carbon I cannot see much wear, but I bet it is there. On flip side, I doubt I am a good enough archer to tell any difference. :)

The targets are not really straw, but similar, from Pacificbowbutts.com.

Great targets BTW.. pricey, but last forever. As always- don't shoot broadheads into them, they wont last long.

From: 2Wild Bill
Date: 14-Oct-21




I tried them, but went back to aluminum. They shot, just ok for me, I didn't seem to get the best flight from them.

From: kluzakd
Date: 14-Oct-21




I really like mine. No issues with them for me. Ken

From: smrobertson
Date: 14-Oct-21




The steel outserts for these shafts are are more than $25 a dozen! Aluminum has worked fine for me with affordable components.

From: SB
Date: 14-Oct-21




How vintage are carbon arrows?

From: Buglmin
Date: 14-Oct-21




Wraps on the Black Eagle shafts? All of mine are painted, not wrapped. And it's a ugly pale yellow color underneath the paint. The only issue I have with the Black Eagle shafts are the fletching. The ends stick up high and not glued down to the shaft. Plus, mine got wet and the feathers came up. Because Black Eagle shafts are made in China, Black Eagle has no idea when they will have arrows at the shop. So, you have to buy em off eBay or Amazon. I've bought several dozen from Lancaster cause I get em cheap through the archery shop.

From: Harborpilot88
Date: 14-Oct-21




Have used gold tips, aluminum, axis traditional and fmjs. Really like my black eagles, they are my go to arrow. Very tough.

From: Harborpilot88
Date: 14-Oct-21




Have used gold tips, aluminum, axis traditional and fmjs. Really like my black eagles, they are my go to arrow. Very tough.

From: Corax_latrans
Date: 15-Oct-21




OK, so by “wrap” you mean the graphics. Well, I guess that could happen over time. I suppose foam is less abrasive. And it’s purely cosmetic.

I will say that I’ve worn the anodization off of a lot of alumalogs over the years. Never mattered as long as they stayed straight.

From: todd Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 15-Oct-21




I went down the Carbon road, just as another option to wood 2 years ago. I found for me the Black Eagle and Sirrius carbon shafts excellent.





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