Traditional Archery Discussions on the Leatherwall


Sunday Hunting

Messages posted to thread:
hvac tech 04-Oct-21
Supernaut 05-Oct-21
randy_68 05-Oct-21
George D. Stout 05-Oct-21
kaw369 05-Oct-21
Wayne Hess 05-Oct-21
JusPassin 05-Oct-21
Supernaut 05-Oct-21
Fiddler 05-Oct-21
msinc 05-Oct-21
Kanati 05-Oct-21
somedude 05-Oct-21
Pdiddly 05-Oct-21
soldier 05-Oct-21
Krag 05-Oct-21
Phillipshunt 05-Oct-21
somedude 05-Oct-21
Supernaut 05-Oct-21
Kanati 05-Oct-21
somedude 05-Oct-21
Hatrick 05-Oct-21
Rough Run 05-Oct-21
Laserman 05-Oct-21
Geezer 05-Oct-21
shootemstraight1 05-Oct-21
BRIBOWl 05-Oct-21
BC173 06-Oct-21
Phillipshunt 06-Oct-21
DanaC 06-Oct-21
Iowacedarshooter 06-Oct-21
Driver 06-Oct-21
Ollie 06-Oct-21
Sasquatch73 06-Oct-21
Yellah Nocks 06-Oct-21
charley 06-Oct-21
somedude 06-Oct-21
tradmt 07-Oct-21
Verdeburl 07-Oct-21
Ishi 07-Oct-21
Jon Stewart 07-Oct-21
JamesV 07-Oct-21
Stix 07-Oct-21
Stix 07-Oct-21
Phillipshunt 08-Oct-21
shade mt 08-Oct-21
DanaC 08-Oct-21
D31 08-Oct-21
Phillipshunt 08-Oct-21
2Wild Bill 08-Oct-21
Phillipshunt 08-Oct-21
timex 08-Oct-21
Krag 08-Oct-21
BOHO 08-Oct-21
2Wild Bill 08-Oct-21
GLF 08-Oct-21
Phillipshunt 08-Oct-21
Phillipshunt 08-Oct-21
Stix 08-Oct-21
Red Beastmaster 08-Oct-21
9/10 Broke 08-Oct-21
Two Feathers 08-Oct-21
shade mt 09-Oct-21
Jason H 09-Oct-21
BC173 09-Oct-21
Supernaut 09-Oct-21
Supernaut 09-Oct-21
LDB 09-Oct-21
Geezer 09-Oct-21
shootemstraight1 09-Oct-21
shootemstraight1 09-Oct-21
Corax_latrans 09-Oct-21
Lowcountry 10-Oct-21
Dartwick 10-Oct-21
GLF 10-Oct-21
LDB 10-Oct-21
timex 10-Oct-21
tradmt 11-Oct-21
MCNSC 11-Oct-21
Corax_latrans 11-Oct-21
Corax_latrans 11-Oct-21
LDB 11-Oct-21
2Wild Bill 12-Oct-21
timex 12-Oct-21
somedude 12-Oct-21
Phillipshunt 12-Oct-21
2Wild Bill 12-Oct-21
2Wild Bill 12-Oct-21
timex 12-Oct-21
Supernaut 12-Oct-21
2Wild Bill 12-Oct-21
Supernaut 12-Oct-21
Douglas Tubbs 12-Oct-21
LDB 12-Oct-21
Phillipshunt 12-Oct-21
shade mt 13-Oct-21
B arthur 13-Oct-21
Ovilla Bill 13-Oct-21
Bob Rowlands 13-Oct-21
timex 13-Oct-21
kaw369 13-Oct-21
timex 13-Oct-21
2Wild Bill 13-Oct-21
Red Beastmaster 13-Oct-21
timex 13-Oct-21
MCNSC 13-Oct-21
DanaC 13-Oct-21
Sir Nick 13-Oct-21
Bowlim 13-Oct-21
Bowlim 13-Oct-21
Corax_latrans 14-Oct-21
shade mt 14-Oct-21
Pappy 1952 17-Oct-21
BC173 17-Oct-21
2Wild Bill 17-Oct-21
Bob Rowlands 17-Oct-21
From: hvac tech
Date: 04-Oct-21




Well looks like we have one sunday archery this year . New is the permission slip for private ground .

From: Supernaut
Date: 05-Oct-21




Joe, I'm in the "wishing" for every Sunday hunting camp and always have been.

It's comical that we can now buy booze and go gamble in a casino on Sunday but we still can't go out and hunt every Sunday. I guess the revenue generated by drinking and gambling makes those things ok to do on Sunday here in the Keystone state.

The game commission has been pushing to get more people involved in hunting especially youth. Kids go to school all week Monday thru Friday so as it stands now Saturday is really the only day they can get out. Not to mention that most adults work Monday thru Friday as well. Opening up Sundays year round would literally double those kids and adults potential days afield.

I know a lot of people are opposed to Sunday hunting in PA and they have their reasons and are entitled to their opinions same as me.

From: randy_68
Date: 05-Oct-21




I couldn't even imagine not being able to hunt on Sundays. Since I work six days a week most weeks that is my most used hunting day. And that's when I usually take the grandkids too. I agree with Suernaut that it would open up a lot more time for the kids to hunt. Indiana is pretty liberal with their hunting seasons and bag limits plus I have a lifetime hunting license which is really nice too. Still I usually only shoot one deer a year as its all I can use.

From: George D. Stout
Date: 05-Oct-21




Sunday for us has always been, and will continue to be family time. We spent a lot of Sundays years ago on archery ranges, taken in field rounds and American rounds....something we could do as a family outing. My wife is not a hunter so there you go. If your wife and kids, or any of the family hunt, that would be a benefit to you of course. I don't care one way or another since I wouldn't hunt on Sunday (my choice) but I don't care if others do (their choice).

I keep telling folks this fact, "we have lost nearly half a million hunters just in Pennsylvania since 1980"....so if you think Sunday hunting will help reverse that, more power to you. I hope it does but I think the electronic, vicarious hunting and gaming has taken a toll, and kids rarely look up from their devices long enough to go hunting for real.

Still, old traditions linger and people cling to them so be patient and enjoy what you're getting. Most people I know around here couldn't care less one way or another. My neighbor is a dairy farmer and he would love to see more deer taken.....and time off for him is as rare as finding hen's teeth....even on Sunday.

From: kaw369
Date: 05-Oct-21




Well said George! Your passage covered my thoughts too!

From: Wayne Hess
Date: 05-Oct-21




Yes I like Sunday to give thanks and do other things, lost near 1/2 million hunters in Pa. ? Most has passed to hunt in the Heavens

From: JusPassin
Date: 05-Oct-21




Not hunting on Sunday is no more logical than not being able to buy a car on Sunday. Old "blue" laws that haven't cleared the books yet.

From: Supernaut
Date: 05-Oct-21




Bruce, I agree that it may be hold over of "Blue" laws here in PA.

I just think it is very hypocritical of the powers that be here in PA to say gambling and buying booze are ok on Sunday but hunting somehow isn't. I'm not the smartest man in PA but I'm sure not the dumbest and I realize all of these decisions are tied to revenue, taxes and just how much they will line the coffers of our wonderful politician's pockets.

I could care less what anyone does any day of the week, including Sunday. I don't gamble and I'm not a boozer but if you want to get loaded and blow all your money betting on the Steelers on Sunday, have at it. I have my own personal relationship with God and how and when and where I chose to worship are my business as well be it Sunday or any day for that matter.

I understand that not everyone feels the way I do and many are strongly opposed to Sunday hunting. I would just like to see Sunday hunting be legalized across the board here in PA and then we can all decide for ourselves.

From: Fiddler
Date: 05-Oct-21




How many states ban Sunday hunting? If I lived in such a state and couldn't move, I'd tell my employer I'm Jewish and Friday is my Sabbath and I need that day off. By the way, is anybody here actually Jewish? Does your religion allow you guys to hunt on your Sabbath?

From: msinc
Date: 05-Oct-21




I didn't really care much either way about Sunday hunting, until I bought land in another state. Then I realized how much it meant to me.

From: Kanati
Date: 05-Oct-21




NJ made it legal i think 2010. The reason was so many people worked saturday plus all the youth sports. I was a parent to the youth sports thing. We can hunt private land state WMA but no state parks or forests. Thats for the hikers. Still a good amount of land to hunt.

From: somedude
Date: 05-Oct-21




I just ain’t gonna hunt on Sunday. Those that do, I hope you stick a biggen, but I never will. As they say, it against my raisen. That’s all I got to say about that. <>< del

From: Pdiddly
Date: 05-Oct-21




Restricting hunting on any day of the week is ridiculous. No logical reason whatsoever for prohibitions of this kind. It has never been the law where I live. Sunday is just another day in the week...

From: soldier
Date: 05-Oct-21




SC you can hunt private land on Sunday but not state land. Makes no sense.

From: Krag
Date: 05-Oct-21




MA doesn't allow hunting on Sunday but I think it has more to do with letting the public have the outdoors free of hunting that day rather than blue laws. Can't think of anything else not allowed on Sunday here so blue laws don't mean much anymore. VT does allow it so good to go when up at the cabin.

From: Phillipshunt Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 05-Oct-21




If the no hunting Sunday is because of religion it makes zero sense. The Sabbath is Saturday per the Bible. Sunday is the first day of the week. Never understood when people brag they never hunt, drink etc. on the Sabbath. I mean how religious are you if you don’t know what day it’s on lol And that’s Jewish or Christian it’s still Saturday always been Saturday. So some of you have been hunting and doing who knows what on the Sabbath and thinking your doing God a favor? Ignorance of the scripture will not be a valid excuse(and that quote is also in the Bible, look it up)

From: somedude
Date: 05-Oct-21




Still aint hunting on Sunday whatever anyone thinks. Y’all want to, git after it and hope you do well. And no, I am not ignorant, just committed to my values. ><> Del

From: Supernaut
Date: 05-Oct-21




Del, I respect your conviction.

As for me, I'd gladly "git after it" if it were legal here in PA.

From: Kanati
Date: 05-Oct-21




Krag thats why NJ said no state parks or state forests. The non hunters were worried they would get shot. Its WMA or private land. Fair compromise.

From: somedude
Date: 05-Oct-21




Sapernaut, I hope you git him too, and hope he’s so big you gotta reinforce you wall!!! LOL. ><> del

From: Hatrick Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 05-Oct-21




In Maryland they leave it up to the individual counties. Some allow Sunday hunting and some don't. Some only allow it for certain Sundays of the season. No matter where you're at, its only allowed on private land. I remember when they were proposing Sunday hunting and the horseman came out against it. They said it was the only day of the week where they could ride in peace from the hunters. Funny thing is, they can ride 365 days of the year and the hunting was a private land proposal only so they would have to have the land owners permission anyway.

IMO, it's worked out really well with absolutely no issues. It really helps the working stiff who waits all week just to get out on Saturday only to find crappy weather. Then Sunday turns out to be perfect for hunting and he has to wait another week.

From: Rough Run
Date: 05-Oct-21




NC is like SC - only Sunday hunting on private land. Where I grew up in WV, Sunday hunting was not permitted on public or private lands. I don't know if that has changed. I don't live near enough to any huntable land for me to be able to hunt in the evenings during the week, so only having Saturday available is really a dampener on my season. Some weekends, Saturday is the only time I have available for my son and his family, as I try to accommodate his work schedule. I love hunting, but not enough to forsake a day with my kids and grandkids.

From: Laserman
Date: 05-Oct-21




I don’t see anything wrong with Sunday hunting and I do it when I can. If you can work and shop on Sunday’s you should be able to hunt if you choose.

From: Geezer
Date: 05-Oct-21




Not me. Don't care what the govt allows, I won't do it. Goes against what I was taught. We can't hunt without violence and bloodshed. But I'm okay with what any man thinks or feels. I'm for everyone respecting themselves as well as others.

From: shootemstraight1
Date: 05-Oct-21




I agree with Laserman. You can do anything you want to do on a Sunday, but no hunting?? We get right after em here in Illinois on Sunday. One of the only times this state isn’t against the people so we have to take full advantage. Chuck

From: BRIBOWl
Date: 05-Oct-21




I used a permission slip to buy my step-mothers smokes try that today.

From: BC173
Date: 06-Oct-21




If you own property, why would you allow anyone to dictate your use of said property? If the state doesn’t allow hunting on state property on Sunday so be it. Hunt your own. I know many that do.

From: Phillipshunt Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 06-Oct-21




Lol some dude, do you even have a reason for not wanting to hunt Sunday? You was probably taught by someone that didn’t know any better or understood what the Bible said. Anything anyone doesn’t do on Sunday because of religion is comical at best they are hunting or drinking gambling etc. on Saturday..which is the actual Sabbath and then thinking they doing something by not doing it on Sunday which is just another day. Almost right is always wrong

From: DanaC
Date: 06-Oct-21




Been 'introduced into the legislature' and 'died in committee' every year for the past 40 here. Won't see it in my lifetime...

From: Iowacedarshooter
Date: 06-Oct-21




i would second what george has said, to me sunday is a day to be with and enjoy my family! to me it is a matter of what is most important in your life.

From: Driver
Date: 06-Oct-21




I can't imagine not having Sunday hunting. Most people work for a living so why take away half of their hunting time?

From: Ollie Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 06-Oct-21




Nothing will change for those of you with no Sunday hunting laws until you get organized and put real pressure on elected state officials to change the law.

From: Sasquatch73
Date: 06-Oct-21




Blue laws or what ever you want to color laws that are still on the books for a way of life that is long gone cost taxes payers lots of wasted dollars keeping them on the books and hamstringing the way of life in 2021. No way you are going to get a politician to do work. Normal people sometimes violate the stupid stuff. Especially city ordinances. You probably do not know you are a criminal. :))

From: Yellah Nocks
Date: 06-Oct-21




Fiddler, depends upon which sect of Judaism. Orthodox, no way. Reformed, possibly. Many Jews are essentially secular Jews. I am a Christian, but celebrate Shabbos(Sabbath) on Friday at sunset. I keep convention in attending Church Sunday because it is Church tradition(and because I am Chief of Security). I am not a Jewish Christian, though I have a friend who is. As far as hunting goes, I generally hunt any day except Friday night. I cannot hunt Sunday due to church(a.m.), or Sunday night due to prayer service.

From: charley
Date: 06-Oct-21




When I was young New York prohibited Sunday hunting, and honestly it wasn't a bad thing. It only applied to our firearms season for big game. Sunday in November and December was some of the best small game hunting I ever had. Everyone went visiting other camps and picked on the city guys that were down hunting. We all got together to butcher and watch football. It was that Jim Kelly era and our Buffalo Bills were hot, playing important December games. Wives and moms sent piles of food, I think trying to out do each other. Some of my fondest hunting memories. We don't have that kind of comradryery today. But at least the Bills are FINALLY good again.

From: somedude
Date: 06-Oct-21




Phillipshunt, thank you for your additions to this discussion. My daddy didn’t hunt or fish on Sunday so I don’t. It is obvious you know about it than I do so like I said before, if you want to hunt on Sunday, git after it. Hope you do well sir. Please, refrain from mentioning me again as I will do the same. <>< del

From: tradmt
Date: 07-Oct-21




Oh the religious teachings of the ‘perceived’ Bible never cease to amaze.

I pray to God every day, I have a spiritual connection to God and the spiritual realm that I have rarely felt in a church or Bible study. I fear most religions were infiltrated by the enemy centuries ago and it’s indoctrination’s are nothing but demonic.

I hunt any day I get the opportunity, and I do it with Gods hand on my shoulder. Hunting and killing animals that you feed yourself and family is the exact opposite of violence, it’s one of the most natural human things that you can do in connection with spirituality and God Almighty.

From: Verdeburl
Date: 07-Oct-21




I really never hunted Sundays because that's the law. So at this point I'm missing nothing as I didn't do it in the past. When I'm out west I can, and do hunt on Sundays. As to arguing about the Sabbath, or any other religious belief here at the Leatherwall I will not participate--This is a archery forum, and religious arguments, and discussions about different beliefs, and doctrine do not belong here. It only leads to heated arguments as do political discussions--it always goes bad, and threads go to bad places real quick. There are other forums for that. Simply stating why, or why not one will hunt on Sunday is fine--taking it in the direction of stating another person is wrong for their choice to either hunt, or not to hunt will start the ball rolling down hill, and very fast. It can only get ugly.

From: Ishi
Date: 07-Oct-21




Fiddler - I am. Shabbat (the Sabbath) starts Friday at sunset. Even observant Jews work on Friday, but return home before the sun sets to prepare for Shabbat prayers and a special meal. As Yellah Nocks explained, observant Jews (Orthodox and some Conservative) do not work or travel on Shabbat. There are lists of traditional Shabbat prohibitions and hunting is contrary to many of them. Reform, Secular, and Reconstructionist Jews do not strictly adhere to traditional ritual.

Yellah Nocks - Shalom and todah rabah for explaining this. Much respect for Christians who incorporate Jewish ritual into their religious practices. All are welcome here.

From: Jon Stewart
Date: 07-Oct-21




Why is there no hunting on Sunday's? Never heard of such a thing.

From: JamesV
Date: 07-Oct-21




My uncle was a farmer and would never hunt on Sunday I asked he why and he told me that he and his son went bird hunting on Sunday and when he was removing his shotgun from behind the seat of his pickup it went off inside the truck. It did not shoot all the way thru the cab, but if it had it would have killed his son. He never hunted on Sunday after that. He never had a problem with us kids hunting on Sunday but he would never go along.

James

From: Stix
Date: 07-Oct-21




Blue laws were put in place for Sunday faith observance.

Are they obsolete? YES

Is it a good thing that they are obsolete ? NO, but people who are committed to their faith observance will do it whether a law or not.

From: Stix
Date: 07-Oct-21




Blue laws were put in place for Sunday faith observance.

Are they obsolete? YES

Is it a good thing that they are obsolete ? NO, but people who are committed to their faith observance will do it whether a law or not.

From: Phillipshunt Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 08-Oct-21




Tradmt, again ignorance of the Bible. The Jews observed the Sabbath long long before there was a Bible. Im not trying to add religion to the discussion of archery. But you would have to be simple minded to not make the connection of why the original no hunting Sunday’s was started. I’m pointing out that the Law and anyone that blindly obeys such laws on religious grounds doesn’t know what day the Sabbath is on lol. If you’ve convinced yourself your not hunting on the Sabbath, on a Saturday that’s your business. It’s not an opinion it’s not a maybe the Sabbath is Saturday, always had been.

From: shade mt
Date: 08-Oct-21




It amazes me how many Bible scholars we have that leave out key facts....like the new testament. The "sabbath" and the keeping of it was part of the old Jewish law.

In The new testament Christians both gentile and reformed Christians jews, met on the first day of the week..that is why Sunday became the day we go to church.

The old Jewish law passed away, when Christ died on the cross...just to clear things up...we are NO longer judged under the old Jewish law, but by grace.

Now as far as Sunday hunting?...to each his own, I'll still go to church. As far as hunting opportunity? I can't see it making to much diffetence, most people that can't find the time to hunt other days probably won't find time sun either..some will, many won't.

From: DanaC
Date: 08-Oct-21




" Now as far as Sunday hunting?...to each his own, I'll still go to church."

Fail to see a problem. At our old VT deer camp, some of the older guys would hunt for an hour or two on Sunday, then clean up and attend church in a nearby town. Later they'd hunt the afternoon/evening. Unless 'church' is an all-day affair for you, I don't see a conflict.

From: D31
Date: 08-Oct-21




Hunting is "Family Time" in my family and always has been. The only thing that everyone agrees on is everyone who wants to hunt will be hunting when the season opens regardless of the day of the week. Good Day

From: Phillipshunt Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 08-Oct-21




Shade mt , lol don’t need to be a Bible scholar just able to read. The deciples, including Paul and the gentiles observed and met on the Sabbath. How do I know? It says so 85 times in the book of acts which is the New Testament by the way lol

For those confused and also curious look up “WHEN” Christians started using Sunday, the first day of the week for Sabbath and Church day. It’s a man made idea. God never changed the Sabbath Sunday has always been the first day of the week until some person decides he knew better.

From: 2Wild Bill
Date: 08-Oct-21




In the Bible, the sabbath was never limited to any one day of the week. Sometimes there were two sabbaths in a week, the weekly and another of spiritual significance. Sabbath means a "rest", and if you are interested, the Christian is in a state of rest from works to be saved, Hebrews 4:3

The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath. - Jesus

If you can't remember/speak to God every day of the week, you don't know him.

From: Phillipshunt Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 08-Oct-21




Lol the Sabbath is was and always will be Saturday. Sunday is the first day of the week per the Bible. Man changed the day for his own reasons and that has nothing to do with the Bible

From: timex
Date: 08-Oct-21




Va became Sunday legal on private land about 10 years ago & yes absolutely some of the opposition had to do with church. It has always puzzled me that it's perfectly acceptable to ride around in a boat drink beer & kill fish on Sunday but not acceptable to kill critters ???

From: Krag
Date: 08-Oct-21




What does the Bible say about narcissism?

From: BOHO
Date: 08-Oct-21




This year , unless I’m on vacation , that’s about the only time I’m gonna get to hunt. In Mississippi , you can hunt anytime from oct 1 to Jan 31, except at night , and some people even hunt then.

From: 2Wild Bill
Date: 08-Oct-21




"What does the Bible say about narcissism?"

"Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall." Proverbs 16:18

From: GLF
Date: 08-Oct-21




About 200 of us showed up at the game hearings in about 89. We lobbied for sunday hunting. The next year they gave us sunday hunting on private lands 100 acres and larger with permission to keep from disturbing other people. I found 6 guys who had adjoining land who gave me permission. 2 or 3 years later it became statewide period. It's kinda hard to use religion as an excuse when getting drunk or losing your house payment gambling is perfectly legal. We were told the farm bureau was who fought it.

From: Phillipshunt Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 08-Oct-21




Proverbs 8:5 O simple ones learn prudence, O fools learn sense.

Lol

From: Phillipshunt Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 08-Oct-21




That’s really what’s wrong with most people today no matter the subject. They would rather wallow in ignorance. Instead of actually getting to the facts of a subject they continue to labor in delusion because it’s easier to just parrot what they heard than do the work themselves.

From: Stix
Date: 08-Oct-21




Just what God wants.....More people quarreling in His name.

God's blessings of peace and love to all of you.

From: Red Beastmaster
Date: 08-Oct-21




With PA's one Sunday during bowseason I plan to sit in a church pew in the morning, then sit in a treestand in the evening.

Can't think of a better way to spend one of my precious few days off work.

Thank you PGC!

From: 9/10 Broke Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 08-Oct-21




Good post Stix. I agree.

From: Two Feathers
Date: 08-Oct-21




I stopped hunting Sunday mornings. I never got anything and felt my time was much better spent in worship service. Sunday afternoons I'll hunt. I took my first deer this year on a Sunday afternoon.

From: shade mt
Date: 09-Oct-21




I'll say it again...notice I use the term...first day of the week not sabbath.

The Sabbath was and always has been the 7th day.

The point we miss is keeping the old law, which observance of days is a part of..

If we were still under the old law and the sabbath, then Jesus himself was guilty of violating it, when he went through a cornfield and picked corn on the sabbath.

Christians do not refer to Sun as the sabbath...just the Lord's day, a day we set aside to worship together.

The bible warns us about "forsaking assembling ourselves together, as in the manner of some"

If we were still under the old law and the sabbath....you would be in violation if you walked to far, or even picked up a few sticks, most certainly by getting in a car and driving across town.

But we are no longer under the "old law"

"Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us to Christ, that we might be justified by faith....But after faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster"

Is it a sin to hunt on sun?...No...is it a sin to forget God or have anything become more important?...absolutely

From: Jason H
Date: 09-Oct-21




Shade mt X2

From: BC173
Date: 09-Oct-21




Granted, the no Sunday hunting law was once a byproduct of the old Blue Laws. That no longer any weight as the state universally ignores the Blue Laws whenever it benefits them. ( i e gambling, bars open, etc. ) What really controls the no Sunday hunting law, is the PA Farm Bureau, and all the money it’s stuffs in the politicians pockets.

From: Supernaut
Date: 09-Oct-21




BC173 X2.

Revenue and tax dollars trump everything.

From: Supernaut
Date: 09-Oct-21




I left out the backroom deals and "palm greasing", kick backs and all that other illegal stuff that drives a lot of decisions that effect us schmucks daily but I figured that was just a given.

From: LDB
Date: 09-Oct-21




Religious ostracism, "Are you of the body? You are not of the body.", Star Trek and most Christian Reformed churches, but it okay to be flaming transvestite in our town, as long as you go to church on Sunday. Too hot and buggy today, I will be going hunting tomorrow when it is cooler.

From: Geezer
Date: 09-Oct-21




To those who would hunt on Sunday for sport: 1 - Is it holy? 2 - Does the legality of other activities on Sunday make them holy? 4 - Do you keep the other nine Commandments?

Simple yes or no answers.

From: shootemstraight1
Date: 09-Oct-21




I’ll bite on that, Geezer. I wasn’t raised going to church, nor was I ever baptized. I really don’t even know the meaning of your questions, but I do have my own beliefs….which are just useless opinions in this conversation. However, I put family first, work second, and then friends/recreation if the other two are well taken care of. I’m a good father and husband. I’m a good neighbor. I’m a good friend. I don’t steal, cheat, or lie. But I would hunt on Sunday for sport ALL DAY LONG with no fear of what it might bring on me later in life. If our ancestors didn’t hunt on Sunday they might’ve starved to death and we wouldn’t be here talking about it today. I think we will all be ok if we are just good people through and through.

From: shootemstraight1
Date: 09-Oct-21




I’ll bite on that, Geezer. I wasn’t raised going to church, nor was I ever baptized. I really don’t even know the meaning of your questions, but I do have my own beliefs….which are just useless opinions in this conversation. However, I put family first, work second, and then friends/recreation if the other two are well taken care of. I’m a good father and husband. I’m a good neighbor. I’m a good friend. I don’t steal, cheat, or lie. But I would hunt on Sunday for sport ALL DAY LONG with no fear of what it might bring on me later in life. If our ancestors didn’t hunt on Sunday they might’ve starved to death and we wouldn’t be here talking about it today. I think we will all be ok if we are just good people through and through.

From: Corax_latrans
Date: 09-Oct-21




You wanna talk about “holy”? How about this:

Holy CRAP!

What a Show…..

The passage that comes to my mind here is “Woe unto thee, ye scribes and Pharisees.”

From: Lowcountry
Date: 10-Oct-21




I had the most awesome post ever, all typed up with the appropriate scorn, sarcasm, and unarguable logic ever, but I already had my first early post deleted, so I didn’t want to get deleted twice…

From: Dartwick
Date: 10-Oct-21




I would prefer they kept absolutely no hunting on Sundays.

I do get a kick out of the angry Biblical scholars the pop up in these threads who promote Sunday hunting.

But lets be honest here - in most of rural PA the general sentiment is strong against Sunday hunting. The reason really doesnt matter - its what people want.

For some its probably religious but for most people its one of 2 things. They either either feel safer to spend time in the woods and letting their animals out. Or they simply like having a day of from hunting - this especially applies to non-hunting members of families.

From: GLF
Date: 10-Oct-21




Keep the other nine commandments? I assume you mean keeping the sabbath holy. That has nothing to do with hunting first day.

From: LDB
Date: 10-Oct-21




I think Iowa needs to make two changes in their hunting laws. 1. leave no trace hunting. If you took it in, you take it out on that day. 2. Traditional Archery Sundays. No crossbows or compounds or early season black powders on Sunday, plus no pheasant hunting on Sunday, unless you are hunting pheasants with traditional archery gear.

From: timex
Date: 10-Oct-21




Everyone's entitled to their beliefs. It's my belief that I'm closer to the lord out in nature enjoying his creations than I ever will be sitting in a church.

From: tradmt
Date: 11-Oct-21




timex, you nailed it.

Feel the spirit brothers. Ears to hear and eyes to see.

From: MCNSC
Date: 11-Oct-21




The public property I hunt has bike / hiking trails and fishing on it. We have had no Sunday hunting, I often spend Sundays scouting when no hunters are in the woods. Hard to do any in season scouting when other people are hunting. It’s all about priorities, if Sunday is the only day you have to hunt then that is the way you choose to prioritize your life. Once knew a guy that quit several jobs because they interfered with his hunting. Priorities.

From: Corax_latrans
Date: 11-Oct-21




“ It’s all about priorities, if Sunday is the only day you have to hunt then that is the way you choose to prioritize your life.”

That’s a very convenient point of view, then, isn’t it?

I guess I shouldn’t have wasted those 7 years volunteering to coach my kids’ rec league hockey instead of hunting, huh?

From: Corax_latrans
Date: 11-Oct-21




I guess I should point out that the point of a Republic is that you needn’t be part of the majority to have your rights protected.

From: LDB
Date: 11-Oct-21




When I was a kid, the kids in town were allowed to ride bike or shoot baskets or much of anything on sunday. Old people road around, rich older people went to their lake homes, where they could do anything they wanted because it was not in town. Those same people were always real quick to criticize others. A phrase in a song I wrote, ""Holier than righteous". One thing that is remarkable to me, it has been proven that for thousands of years, the day of the week has never been missed. Monday was Monday and Saturday was the seventh day. The Roman Church changed the Sabbath to Sunday. I am not catholic.

From: 2Wild Bill
Date: 12-Oct-21




"It's my belief that I'm closer to the lord out in nature enjoying his creations than I ever will be sitting in a church."

I would take that statement to mean that your god is not the God of the Bible. By putting God where you want him, you manage and misunderstand his word regarding gathering with other believers. Would your destination after this world be a "happy hunting ground"?

I also said, "If you can't remember/speak to God every day of the week, you don't know him."

From: timex
Date: 12-Oct-21




I will take ^^^^ this statement as why some need to be in church on Sunday.

From: somedude
Date: 12-Oct-21




Well said 2Wild Bill. ><> del

From: Phillipshunt Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 12-Oct-21




What 2Wild Bill said is the truth. May not be pleasing to the masses but it’s still a fact. If God wanted you to sit in a tree stand to be close to him, or be a substitute for Church, he’d said so in the Bible. He clearly outlines what is expected from each of us. And if you don’t believe the Bible or somehow think you’ve got your own book of instructions,you may aswell throw the entire religion idea out the window and hope the atheists are right lol

From: 2Wild Bill
Date: 12-Oct-21




" will take ^^^^ this statement as why some need to be in church on Sunday."

You have to be smaller than a hypocrite to hide behind one.

From: 2Wild Bill
Date: 12-Oct-21




There are three points of doctrine the belief of which forms the foundation of all morality. The first is the existence of God; the second is the immortality of the human soul; and the third is a future state of rewards and punishments. Suppose it possible for a man to disbelieve either of these three articles of faith and that man will have no conscience, he will have no other law than that of the tiger or the shark. The laws of man may bind him in chains or may put him to death, but they never can make him wise, virtuous, or happy. - John Quincy Adams

From: timex
Date: 12-Oct-21




Thou shalt not judge. Nuff said. If someone feels the need to judge someone else for not being in church than yes I absolutely agree that the judgmental person should be in church on Sunday

From: Supernaut
Date: 12-Oct-21




I reckon all those priests that molested kids for years and years and years under the "watchful" eye of the Catholic church will be absolved of all sin since they were in the building on Sundays?

I'll take my chances in the woods if I'm not able to make a service Saturday evening or Sunday morning.

From: 2Wild Bill
Date: 12-Oct-21




"I absolutely agree that the judgmental person should be in church on Sunday"

Wow! I have to spell it out for you? That's hiding behind someone you consider hypocritical.

“Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ? Mark Twain

"absolved of all sin" "I'll take my chances in the woods "

And what do you think the Bible has to say about forgiveness of sin, that you have also formed an opinion of by time "in the woods"?

From: Supernaut
Date: 12-Oct-21




Bill, I'm not really a fan of folks answering my question with a question. I put that behind me when I left school, no offense intended.

I hope you have a safe and blessed season.

From: Douglas Tubbs
Date: 12-Oct-21




A new testament view of a sabbath rest: Hebrews 4. Believers reaction to the Lord's day. Acts 20:7 and 1 Cor. 16:2. Non judgmental verses Romans 14:5 and Col 2:16. I enjoy the Lord's day to go to church, be with my family, and to enjoy His creation. I don't do it to gain favor through works Ephesions 2, Romans 6:14. I do it because I love Him for He is my Savior and I am thankful daily that I am not under law but saved by grace. I don't think it should be a law but if it was overturned you can still worship under grace apart from the law. And then it is your choice.

From: LDB
Date: 12-Oct-21




Yesterday, I made a choice to not hunt in the trees, my wife thought it was a bit nuts. I said a bit of a breeze fewer bugs. With that she could agree. I saw a bean filed, about 150 yards wide between two equal sized corn fields. There was green in that field, clover, clumps of clover. I sat in a break on the edge of the very sparse corn, my wife sat in a clump of accidental corn on the other end of the beans. About sunset, a beautiful perfect specimen of a 2&1/2 year old 8 pointer came out from the north corn field. I was hoping it would go towards my wife. I knew that there was just no way that i could shoot it. I was drinking way to much cherry cola yesterday, I burped and that young buck turned and started coming at me. I had very little cover and he spotted me and went back to where he came. I was sitting on my spike stool Nifty seat, and I got a pinched nerve from my neck into the center of my back. Where that nerve hits the spine in the middle of the back is the nerves that control the heart. You have heard of bow shooters getting tilted vertebrae, I am no different and the chiro worked on that same region and told me not to shoot so much for a few days.. When I got home, an hour and a half later, my heart went a-fib. Super high irregular heart rhythms and spiked blood pressure, went to the emergency room. They said the best they could do is lower the pressure and hopefully slow the a-fib down, but i was stuck with it. Six hours into it about 3'15 a.m. I remembered some of my vital homeopathic training, it is called Tapping The Healer Within. I did the protocol, felt more relaxed and dozed off. Then was awakened by an alarm bell. The staff all came racing in the room, checked my vitals. My heart stopped beating for a few seconds and then reset. My heart rate was a steady and strong 60 bmp, my blood pressure dropped to 125 over 78. The emergency doctor told the nurse that she just witnessed a miracle. No, she did not. Considering the war that is being waged on civilization by the Satanic globalists, the adrenochrome being harvested from young children, the pedophile marketing of stolen children, the massive amount of lies and misinformation being fed to the sleeping and gullible masses, this argument over who is going to hell for going hunting on Sunday is misdirected small stuff. For those that feel a connection, like many of us, that go out in nature, even Sunday, could very well have a closer connection to God than many who are faithful club members in their local churches. Have at least 3 weeks of food, water, and emergency supplies on hand, things are about to happen.

From: Phillipshunt Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 12-Oct-21




I can’t speak for the others. But my comments were not meant to be judgmental they were meant to be informative lol. I don’t think anyone is going to hell for hunting Sunday. My point was Sunday is not the Sabbath and never has been. Anyone that thinks they are doing God or anyone else a service by not hunting Sunday is delusional. The people that originally came up with the idea were also delusional and lacked even a minimal knowledge of the Bible. It was some man that came up with Sunday’s being Church days or the Sabbath. Man cannot change Gods laws or plans. It’s not a coincidence that the same “church organization” that tried to change the sabbath also made their priest not get married(also not biblical but man made) and allowed pedophiles to hide amongst them. None of which has anything to do with the Bible or God all of it is mans doing

From: shade mt
Date: 13-Oct-21




"Judge not,that he be not judged. For with what judgement ye judge:and with what measure he mete,it shall be measured to you again."

But Using Bible passages, to discern is not the same judging, it's simply presenting the truth.

They brought a woman caught in adultery to Jesus once, they were all ready to stone her, Jesus simply stated. . Let the one without sin, cast the first stone...they all hung their head and walked away, for ALL had sinned. Jesus then asked her "woman where are thine accusers"?...she answered..they all left.

Jesus then said...neither do I condemn you.

But we forget the rest of the vs.. Because Jesus also said....now you go, and Sin no more.

As far as Sunday hunting?...you decide.

For the record.... the "church"....is not a temple built with hands, but a body of people who believe.

And the bible gives evidence that those people should assemble themselves together on a regular basis.

Now that's just the way it is...do with it what you want.

But know this....At the end of the road, we all will meet God.

As far as how we are judged?...Will be entirely based on the choices we make now.

You cannot be to young, to accept Gods, forgivness, nor can you be to old.....But you can be to late.

Far to many that decide they will turn to God and accept Christ at 12:00..die at 11:00.

Sunday hunting or not...I sincerely don't wish that on anyone.

From: B arthur
Date: 13-Oct-21




Well said Shade! AMEN!

From: Ovilla Bill
Date: 13-Oct-21




Virginia had "no Sunday hunting" on the books until a couple of years ago. Finally opened it up. If your a VA hunter, the choice is now yours. That is the way it should be in my book. Amen.

From: Bob Rowlands
Date: 13-Oct-21




Well said Shade.

From: timex
Date: 13-Oct-21




So I'm just curious and not in a biblical way so please don't go there. This is more of a question from a legal point of view. In the states that have fairly recently allowed Sunday hunting & the ones that still don't allow Sunday hunting to my knowledge there's never been any restrictions on fishing. Myself personally view both activities to be of the same nature only difference is one has fur or feathers the other scales or skin. This has always puzzled me & perhaps someone has a logical explanation.

From: kaw369
Date: 13-Oct-21




Fishing doesn't affect any the farmers as much? I hunt three private farms and if they allowed hunting on Sunday, not one would let me hunt their property. I would have to go to public land.

From: timex
Date: 13-Oct-21




If they had a pond or stream or river would they allow you to fish. Just curious

From: 2Wild Bill
Date: 13-Oct-21




In Connecticut it was said that recreational hikers would be in the woods and hunters could then be a hazard to them. Since nobody walks on water, the hooks are less life threatening than bullets or arrows. Sunday hunting is allowed only on private land where any or most hikers would then be trespassers.

From: Red Beastmaster
Date: 13-Oct-21




Most threads get pulled for much less. This thing needs yanked.

From: timex
Date: 13-Oct-21




Why it's an interesting topic to me there's I'm not sure exactly but around 10 states in the nation that even have this law and the exact reason why has always interested me. Myself personally think it's a great topic

From: MCNSC
Date: 13-Oct-21




Corax, I beleive you proved my point about priorities perfectly. No right or wrong , just what has priorities in our lives. I believe your priorities were in order. Looking back , When my girls were young I probably spent too much time hunting, I like to think if I had it to do over I would spend more time with them instead of hunting.

From: DanaC
Date: 13-Oct-21




"I hunt three private farms and if they allowed hunting on Sunday, not one would let me hunt their property. I would have to go to public land. "

Let's flip that. A lot of huntable land here is OWNED or leased by hunters - WMA's and hunting easements. But WE can not use OUR land on Sundays because of (insert same lame arguments here that I've been listening to for the past 40+ years.)

So, every year I pay a fee on my license, which funding is dedicated to purchasing property or easements, but I can't use it one day out of seven.

Not such a a big deal in retirement but in my working years I spent far more time - and money - elsewhere.

From: Sir Nick Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 13-Oct-21




Sundays are so full of the things you can do, why dwell on something you can't do? Pure silliness.

From: Bowlim
Date: 13-Oct-21




I thought the original pretext was there was a boozeup, and some guys got shot, so they banned it. It wasn't because it was the lord's day, it was because people got drunk on saturday nights. And we know scientifically now that the incapacity doesn't end with the night.

Not justifying it, but there is an obvious difference in that situation over letting people gamble on Sunday, unless your gamblers carry guns.

From: Bowlim
Date: 13-Oct-21




"It’s not a coincidence that the same “church organization” that tried to change the sabbath also made their priest not get married(also not biblical but man made) and allowed pedophiles to hide amongst them."

If you are talking about Catholics, you might be compressing hundreds of years of Orginization into your condemnation. Which in modern times has a lot to do with the ethics and predators in particular countries.

From: Corax_latrans
Date: 14-Oct-21




Point being, a guy with obligations - work, kids’ sports, religious or otherwise - should not be denied equal access to the resource; same as everyone else. The nature of those obligations is inconsequential and - frankly - none of the state’s damn business.

Every time the subject comes up, it’s very clear that the only people who are in favor of these blue laws are those who (for their own specific reasons) would not hunt on Sundays if it were legal and who are therefore benefiting (disproportionately) from the fact that no one else is allowed to do so, even if it’s their only chance all week. Well, them and the Antis, who will gleefully embrace ANY restrictions on hunting because they just want ALL of it ended.

From: shade mt
Date: 14-Oct-21




Which would be better, sitting around all day sunday drinking beer with his buddies, or go hunting ? Obviously I think you would be better off hunting.

Let's face it, some of you are not going to go to church sun morning, regardless if you can hunt or not right ?

I sincerely hope someday you see the benefit of it...the doors always open.

Much of the problem with Sun hunting is guys sitting in the pews Sun morning, are worried that big buck they are watching might get shot by a sun hunter...They won't hunt on sun, so they don't want others to either.

I'm one of those guys sitting in the pews. But my concern isn't that you can hunt when I won't...no frankly I'm glad your hunting, because there certainly is a lot of worse things you could be doing.

When your out there, look around, notice how different everything is, from the smallest insect..to the largest animal. Look how everything works in unison, look at the beauty of it.....then realize that there must be something far greater than you out there.....And seek God.

Then possibly sometime you to will come and join in worship of such a creator.

Like I said the door is always open..

"Behold I stand at the door and knock"...all you have to do is open the door.

From: Pappy 1952
Date: 17-Oct-21




Always been open in Tennessee on Sunday I just elect not to hunt, love hunting but got more important things to do on Sunday. Like has been said I have no problem with anyone else choosing to hunt it is all about what is important to you. Pappy

From: BC173
Date: 17-Oct-21




A lot of Theologians and biblical scholars, voicing their opinions on this thread, I see. Many of you missed your calling. SMDH

From: 2Wild Bill
Date: 17-Oct-21




"I see."

No miss, that's a "gottcha" admission on your part. Do you have a problem with what was said or an insight to add?

From: Bob Rowlands
Date: 17-Oct-21




There is some real wisdom in the words of the Bible. Personally I think the 'Lords day off' from work is in essence based on the fact that non stop work is very bad for your mental and physical health. Anyone that has worked for say, fifty days straight without a single day off, will know just how debilitating it is. Been there done that. Mentally and physically totally spent. Six days a week is sustainable over long periods of time. Seven days a week is most definitely not. Mental blur of fatigue is not a good mindset for thinking about God.





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