Traditional Archery Discussions on the Leatherwall


Removing Inserts, Gold Tip Tip Grip

Messages posted to thread:
YamahaYG68 03-Oct-21
George D. Stout 03-Oct-21
MnM 03-Oct-21
Draven 03-Oct-21
M60gunner 03-Oct-21
YamahaYG68 03-Oct-21
YamahaYG68 03-Oct-21
Draven 03-Oct-21
walltent 03-Oct-21
YamahaYG68 03-Oct-21
YamahaYG68 03-Oct-21
Bentstick54 03-Oct-21
M60gunner 03-Oct-21
Maynard 03-Oct-21
grizzly63 03-Oct-21
Phrogdrvr 03-Oct-21
Live2Hunt 04-Oct-21
reddogge 04-Oct-21
Wildhog 04-Oct-21
lefty4 04-Oct-21
reddogge 04-Oct-21
From: YamahaYG68
Date: 03-Oct-21




Does anyone know a of a way to remove points or inserts installed in carbon arrows with Gold Tip Tip Grip?

That is without destroying the shafts.

I think the answer is "NO", but had to ask.

From: George D. Stout
Date: 03-Oct-21




I never will understand permanently gluing in inserts in a product that can't be heated hot enough to remove them. Seems rather nonlogical doesn't it? If you get them out, get you some low temp hot melt to use....and they will stay in if put in correctly...even shooting foam.

From: MnM
Date: 03-Oct-21




Try placing a drill bit in the nock end giving a swing to knock out insert.

From: Draven
Date: 03-Oct-21




It works like a charm

From: M60gunner
Date: 03-Oct-21




Have you tried asking Gold Tip? Maybe info on their website.

From: YamahaYG68
Date: 03-Oct-21




Draven

Thanks for posting that video.

From: YamahaYG68
Date: 03-Oct-21




M60gunner

Good suggestion.

I have tried posting questions there in the past and did not get a reply, but its worth tying again.

From: Draven
Date: 03-Oct-21




Welcome

From: walltent
Date: 03-Oct-21




was he removing hot melt or Tip Grip ?

From: YamahaYG68
Date: 03-Oct-21




M60gunner

FYI, I just posted hat question to Gold Tip.

We'll see if I get a reply in a couple days.

If I get something back from them, I will pot the answer.

From: YamahaYG68
Date: 03-Oct-21




walltent

"was he removing hot melt or Tip Grip ?"

Now that you mention it, I wonder.

I had the handle break off a ceramic mug last year, so I put it back on with Gold Tip Tip Grip, just to try.

So far, it has survived a year or so of being run in the dishwasher several times/week.

Not boiling water, but hot and many cycles.

From: Bentstick54
Date: 03-Oct-21




If you look closely as he’s pulling the last point at about the 2:12 time frame the insert looks very dark/ blacked to me. I would guess it was hot melt and that darkness was caused from smoke when heating the hot melt for installation. But that is just a guess on my part.

From: M60gunner
Date: 03-Oct-21




Usually if I don’t get an answer that means either they don’t know or want to share info. Of course they or any one who sells their shafts would rather you buy another dozen. Never tried the drill bit trick, seems to me if the glue lets go with that motion it wouldn’t keep the insert in that well anyway. I am referring to the arrow impacting the target over many shots. I wouldn’t count misses that may mean hitting hard objects.

I will admit I was a “low melt” sceptic but after a year of constant use and that means bouncing arrows all over the desert floor I haven’t lost an insert. I am somewhat anal about shaft prep and insert cleaning which I have always done no matter the shaft material or insert type.

From: Maynard
Date: 03-Oct-21




3 rivers sells blue stick low heat glue I use it on goldtip inserts works great

From: grizzly63
Date: 03-Oct-21




I insert a target point and heat that, transferring the heat to the insert and then use a rifle cleaning rod to tap on the insert from the nock end. Most give up the ghost and release. There are some that do seem impossible.

From: Phrogdrvr
Date: 03-Oct-21




X3 on the drill bit. Just did it a couple of weeks ago. Word of caution: Bit and insert become projectile when the adhesive finally gives way completely.

From: Live2Hunt
Date: 04-Oct-21




The drill bit work sometime and sometimes not. I have only used hot melt on Carbon, wood, aluminum and fiberglass. I have talked to a couple people who epoxied them in and the tip grip stuff who tried the drill bit trick and end up pulling the inside of the shaft apart. As George said above, why not use hot melt?

From: reddogge
Date: 04-Oct-21




I have used the drill bit trick on epoxied-in inserts but I had to heat the point first. They do become a projectile when they come out. I was thinking of inserting the proper size screw into the insert and tieing a length of string to it to keep it from flying around the room. Even putting a soft towel on the floor doesn't tame them.

From: Wildhog
Date: 04-Oct-21




The drill bit has always worked for me.

From: lefty4
Date: 04-Oct-21

lefty4's embedded Photo



The drill bit method has worked for me but never on the first swing. I made a “catchers mitt” from surgical tubing to catch the insert and drill when all hell breaks loose. Otherwise, you could “knock an eye out”. Or break a window. Or loose an insert and drill bit. LOL

From: reddogge
Date: 04-Oct-21




Lefty4, you are a genius. I love it.





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