I know you've noticed it. For the past year and a half no matter how carefully the OP narrowly defines the topic to where there may be a handful of people on here with actual experience/knowledge of the subject, within a half-dozen post the original question has been "drug off on in the bushes" where it will never be heard from again and will reappear only on milk cartons! It's not your fault...you've done your social duty and been glued to you keyboard staring at the monitor over your mask for nearly two years! Good news, my brothers..."the Season" is upon us. Now let go of the mouse...slowly back away...go to the woods...and actually hunt something. In the meantime I'm calling Batman and we're going to conduct a corporate "prayer vigil" for all you'uns recovery!
DanaC, the 12x56 Bugeyesers have too much magnification and cannot be held steady enough to use for glassing without a bipod. They may advertise them as compact but you might want to try a set of Lone wolf climbing steps instead of a bipod stand.
A Tag, that is a valid point regarding the usage of the climbing steps but......
Can I ethically hunt a thought to be extinct Tasmanian Tiger with a 27#, "Supercurve", fast flight string wearing, Single 1 inch fletch arrow shooting bow? I'd of course limit my shots to under 67 yards unless, "it just felt right".
Don't waste your money on that fancy store camo, you don't need it. I've killed my biggest bucks wearing blue jeans a white t shirt standing in front of a tree smoking a cig.
My season starts in less than two weeks. Can I kill a deer with a 45 lb. bow? Do I have to practice or will my new high dollar custom, and some prayers, be good enough?
Actually, speaking of milk cartons, did you know the milk inside may or may not come from cows grown in the United States? You may be drinking mild from Argentina.
I was drinking almond milk for awhile,suppose to be healthier.I found out most almonds are grown in California.I don't want to put some cow out of business so its back to milk for me.I need to be strong for the upcoming bow season.
Nut corps are just slightly behind irrigated alfalfa for water consumption. Nuts in California take approximately 1900 gallons of water to produce 1 pound of nuts.
If your not using a two pound arrow with a fast flight string your bow your not getting enough penetration. If you can't get six inches of penetration in a oak tree you'll need a heavier arrow and a sharper broadhead.
Yankee, I don't have any pics of bows leaning against trees but I do have this picture a a tree I got a complete pass through on. I can't enter it in "the book" because I wasn't wearing a fedora when I shot it. Still a trophy to me but didn't eat real good.
Remember to pee in scrapes if you're diabetic they "love the sugar" (rip RC) and they won't notice you smoking a pipe on stand or on the ground often close enough to touch..
Don't let this sht distract you from the the fact that in 1966, Al Bundy scored four touchdowns in a single game while playing for the Polk High School Panthers in the 1966 city championship game versus Andrew Johnson High School, including the game-winning touchdown in the final seconds against his old nemesis, "Spare Tire" Dixon.
OK, that's enough; let's drop the phony Al Bundy references and get this thread back on the LW serious, no nonsense traditional track that is the forum's hard earned trademark. If moderator sees that post, this thread is history. Good info lost.
[[[ "Don't let this sht distract you from the the fact that in 1966, Al Bundy scored four touchdowns in a single game while playing for the Polk High School Panthers in the 1966 city championship game versus Andrew Johnson High School, including the game-winning touchdown in the final seconds against his old nemesis, "Spare Tire" Dixon." ]]]
I heard that from JB (Not Justin Beaver), that "CornPop" has all of the video evidence to prove it.
You know, monkeys make me laugh sometimes, not sure if they know how to shoot a bow or not but I don't think they drink almond milk they may eat almonds though.
Olddog, not only have I noticed, but I’ve been insulted for calling it out. Apparently I’m a “whiner!” I just consider the source(s), either personal or regional.
Almond milk is sweet and speaking as a diabetic?...it makes me pee alot but that can be fun as well because then I get to pee my initials in the dirt but at my age?...those initials now look more like morse code.
I was about to leave for the range n y'all reminded me. I'm taking a 57lb bow to shoot so do I need 700gn arrows for range bags. Or can I shave em down to 570gns to shoot flatter at 10 yards?.
I'd bet my next paycheck that Duane would not drink peach flavored almond milk if he were alive. However, if he were alive I guess he wouldn't have had that encounter with the peach truck and maybe no aversion....Hmmmm
Knifeguy, always place camera on opposite side of tree. Game trail cameras are not camo'ed well enough to prevent game from spotting them. Most pics will be of game rear ends, but will closely resemble hunting encounters.
Now I got a hankerin’ for some peach-flavored almond milk!
Getting this back onto an archery-related topic, it seems that George Harrison was a toxophile. At his wedding to Patty Boyd, his nephews were getting bored and fidgety so his friend and bandmate Paul McCartney took the boys out and taught them to shoot George’s bow and arrows.
After that, the fledgling band eventually became moderately successful and developed a bit of a following. I’d like to think that archery had something to do with that.
I rest my case...and I must say I'm honored. I think this thread has a real chance of nocking the "how many pounds does it take to kill a dead cow" thread off its pedestal! Keep 'em coming...I'm going to be more famous than Frisky!
olddogrib, If you achieve this internet "fame" you mentioned I hope you use it for something cool like picking up chicks. Let's not get into asking what a Henway is either, I'm talking chicks man.
Sitting in Elk camp in NE Washington state. I can get internet from a connection on my truck system. Several others here all using compounds. They asked why my attraction to recurves. Told them I would miss all this. One said does anybody really hunt there. Sure I said pics will be coming soon-------they are just bored.
And anyway, back to the non-topic of binoculars...
When does the objective lens size take binoculars from 'compact' to 'full size? Or is there a 'mid size' that nobody talks about? Is there a conspiracy to hide the very existence of mid-size optics?
2 bears, fletching gets heavier as color gets darker (additional feather pigmentation). Fletching color info to keep in mind when choosing cock feather. Wrong fletching color combination will throw arrow out of balance and affect arrow flight. Being a true traditionalist, I don't know if this info holds true for vanes.
DanaC...Pink and Green are heavier colors because you have to mix two colors together to get either....to get pink you have to mix red & white and to get green you have to mix blue and yellow and everyone knows that one color is lighter than two but white is the lightest because it's the absence of color...bleach works.
You have to take into consideration what species of swallow the feathers came from, African or European, when determining weight or flight speed for that matter.
Some may question the importance of this thread. Simple answer is; information provided in this thread is nowhere to be found in "Shooting the Stickbow" by Viper. 'nuf said!
Gotta get me a pair of those. Unfortunately wearing them to an Allman Brothers concert isn't going to happen unless it's a tribute and those are never as good as the original. I suppose I could just listen to Brothers and Sisters a few times and call it good. Won't need binoculars to see the stage either so no recommendations needed.
I still don't know who is on first but I've learned a lot from this thread.
As long as you choose matching colors for the hen feathers and the cock color is of a weight that is diametrically opposed to the g force weight of the hen colors then you will get good arrow flight. Think I saw that somewhere on here, maybe GF?
I once set a supermarket staff in a tizzy for two hours looking for "canned gloit". The odd thing was the manager looked at the shelf stocker like he was stupid and said, "oh, heck, that's in aisle 6! I am FIGHTING to keep from laughing while he looks, and, of course, no gloit. He tells me he will get to the bottom of why they weren't carrying this important ethnic item. He wanted my number so I gave him one. Two things: 1. After he called corporate, did they actually look for it and is he still employed. And, 2. Did any of you guys get that call?
When you try too hard to avoid motion and cut your string with the broadhead does that void the strings warranty? And can you get broadheads killing sharp but not string cutting sharp?
GLF, It shouldn't void the strings warranty unless it's a fast flight string padded with 180 strands in the loops so you can blow your own horn about using it on your vintage bow without causing damage.
Only "Premium" broadheads will get killing sharp but not string cutting sharp but you have to provide a doctoral thesis in physics when you purchase them to unlock that benefit from what I gather.
Here is something to ponder: Do you think the ADHD in the OP's thread title stands for Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder or is it something more ominous like Arrows Don't Hit Deer?
I'm no conspiracy theorists but this seems a bit beyond coincidental.
[[[ "C'mon slackers....we're nowhere near the "dead cow"! Does anyone even remember who the OP of that thread was? Now there's a true "Legend"." ]]]
Hey Richard. Here ya go. :)
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From: TK Date: 13-Sep-99 Pre-L2 Unregistered Post
Well, one of the old girls kicked the bucket. When I found her, whe was still about lukewarm. No idea what killed her, she just laid down with the rest of the herd and died right there; no struggle, nothing. Guess we all need to go like that... Anyway, to make a long story even longer, I came back to next day to find about 20 buzzards doing what they do best. Since they had already added insult to injury (and they cant get past the hide to really to a good job of getting it cleaned up), I thought I would run an experiement on my bow and get some preseason practice in.
Got 2219's, pine shafts, and cedar. I had one bh, a Rocky Mtn Razor. I shot it and, well, it was ok. Good penetration until it hit the spine. It lodge in and died right there. This is where it gets interesting. The rest of my arrows had field points. The cow was already starting to swell (the legs had attained lift-off). It needed a hole started to get the gas out and the birds/coyotes in, so I shot it. The arrow hit solid, and came back at me. Now I was using a Howatt Hunter with 60#. Aluminums, wood, they all came back. Approx 60 attempts, not one single entry. This is not scientific, and I did not have a Magnus, etc to test the cut on impact heads. I did, however, come to the conclusion that if anyone goes to Africa to hunt those water buffs, you need a lot of bow, and a damned serious head.
BTW, the four blade bh I used went in 1/2". That is where it will stay too; it flew terrible, and the cow can have it as far as I am concerned.
So, there you have it. Maybe someone cam use this information. At least now we all now that you cannot kill a dead cow with field points.
Judo points alleviate the need to climb for arrows. However if you miss they keep going and going and... can't find them even with full size binoculars ;-)
Have you ever climbed a tree to retrieve a dead cow? Now that's some real "Legend" Fred and Howard stuff there. I'd bet you wouldn't need any type of BINOCULAR to see the cow but you could probably lasso it with the record breaking THREAD.
I'm sure a lot of members think we are just being silly here, even childish. I'll just hit them with the old, "Laughter is the best medicine" line. I guess that depends on what ails you, sometimes it's penicillin and a few shots....so I've heard.
"What's the minimum poundage needed for black bears? I heard somewhere you can almost throw an arrow through one :)"
I've never heard of such a thing here on my 2 acre ranch in PA. I may be able to Google search some stock internet pictures and pass then off as my own to prove it can be done if you give me a little time.
Can anyone recommend a knot for that bow string repair? Half hitch, square, noose, moose, squoose?
Bowline, I should've known! This thread just keeps giving the info!
A "Superknot" can only be used to facilitate the listening to either Black Sabbath or Ministry at dangerously high volumes. Any other usage may result in having your name removed from the ballot for the Leatherwall Hall of Fame. Sorry, I don't make the rules. I just try to abide.
I can tell you fellas aren't fly fisherman, surgeon knot is the best it it gets but expensive to get one to tie it for you. You could stop by at the operating room to see if they got a couple minutes.
All joking aside I had ADHD as a youngster. My third grade teacher Mrs. Redman beat it out of me. Took most of the year but like Target Panic it came back. : )
This thread kind of explains why so many of us can't successfully run an organized step-by-step shot sequence but if we concentrate and focus real hard on just one thi...OMG!!!
Know why the almond growers are so insistent to call their product milk? Because nobody would buy it if it they knew what it really is. It’s nut juice!
Mdph, describing "almond milk" as "nut juice" is a pretty ugly, although deceptivly honest description of a disgustingly delicious product nutritionists recomend to almost all as an awfully healthful drink. Yes, it's a definite maybe that we're fellow oxy-morons. ;)
I call BS on the whole nut juice thing because the term "Juice" relates to vegetable and citrus products but when it comes to nuts?...the appropriate term is in fact "Milk"....I mean we don't call it CocoNUT Juice now do we?...we call it Coconut "Milk"
Us humans might get it all messed up but at least the Squirrels know what to do with their nuts.
Now Jinkster, I'm no botanist, but almost sure (did it again) the coconut is a fruit. Thus, the correct terminology for coconut liquid is "nut juice" not "milk." Lot of confusing, incorrect, "wanna be" descriptive terminology these days! Could be coconut "milk" started it all. Let's be careful out there!
Tinecounter, Jinkster, et al., I am a botanist and an affirm that coconuts, almonds, and most other nuts are actually seeds, which are components of fruits. But “seed juice” just doesn’t fall off the tongue quite like “nut juice.”
Ok ok, it’s tine we got back to the OP’s actual quarrel: Does proof reading harm yer shooing form? I thunk definitely. I personal quit proof reaping years ago and my forb has never been batter.
Pa Steve, my fingers are more on the bony side, but my impression is that the underlying cause of the inaccuracy of my touch screen hen pecking may be affecting the consistency of my shooting.
On a related note, I have begun to resolve the your/you’re conundrum with the universal “yer.” Also, to/too have been replaced by the numeral 2.
I grew up poor and we couldn’t afford ADHD. When I had my archery shop, you couldn’t give those bows away, now everyone wants one. I never shot one myself, but with a well-tuned arrow and a properly sharpened broad head, I’ve gotten complete pass-throughs with a 27# bow measured at my 23” draw length. Of course, that’s with my 1961 Bear Mambo Magnum and it takes more than some AI powered interactive spine calculator to figure out the right numbers to tune one of those. No one here understands how to do that any more. Used to do it back when I was a founding member of the Pennsylvania Association of Braggart Archers. We just called it archery back then and everyone shot paper targets pinned to a hay bale from 80 yards. Didn’t have not need for those 3D targets - couldn’t afford ‘em any way.
I bet that your computer is manufactured in China, and your mobile phone too. I don’t have a mobile phone. But I have a lot of canned goods in my basement. That’s where I make my endless loop strings. Guess that makes it archery related. Been doing it that way since the 1960’s and don’t see no need to change.
What was the original question (not that it matters, I am going to give you the same answers no matter what you ask here - gotta keep my post count up!)?
I love the smell of kitty liter in the morning. Ishi that was one thought provoking paragraph. Like a hot bowl of Chili I'm trying to digest it. Hope it doesn't come out hot on the other end.
I was reading through the thread--saw the picture of the rare moose squirrel. Will a 45# bow kill these, what arrow should I use? What broadhead should I use? Will acorn attractant scent work? Man-wow--I have so many questions--so many unanswered questions. OH GOD--what should I do?--------------OH wait I forgot to take my pills this morning--gotta go--tootles everyone.
No reason to be caught afield with your pants down. Check out the new "Fart Trusters." Real man, wool, ozonic, plaid pattern adult diapers highly recommended by LW sages.
Believe it or not, I've been packing a monocular in my trout fishing vest for about 25 years. It's even a compact one! I've used it to spy deer, turkey and an occasional osprey up Tionesta way over the years. As an added bonus, I feel like a pirate standing in a creek (pronounced crick) using a monocular. Arrrrgggghhhhh!
Even though it would be considered a vintage monocular, I still run a fast flight lanyard on it. Monocular makers don't know more than I do when it comes to that kind of stuff anyway. I Google searched it and watched a couple Youtube videos.
Babysaph...now that's just waste...giving out freebies. You should be saving that for hunting the deer and report your findings. Were there any deer there at the airport...I bet not.
Will Tell, you can be excluded from the test...I'm afraid you're too much of a powerhouse. Couldn't trust the results.
