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Stickbow Felty 29-Jan-20
George D. Stout 29-Jan-20
MStyles 29-Jan-20
Mortis Sagittas 29-Jan-20
Gray Goose Shaft 29-Jan-20
Stickbow Felty 29-Jan-20
Buzz 29-Jan-20
cobra 30-Jan-20
Gray Goose Shaft 30-Jan-20
cobra 30-Jan-20
MStyles 30-Jan-20
Stickbow Felty 30-Jan-20
Bugle up 30-Jan-20
CStyles 30-Jan-20
smrobertson 30-Jan-20
Chas 30-Jan-20
Stickbow Felty 30-Jan-20
Stickbow Felty 03-Jan-22
Jon Stewart 03-Jan-22
CLAYBORN 03-Jan-22
Jack 03-Jan-22
Jack 03-Jan-22
cobra 03-Jan-22
Pdiddly2 03-Jan-22
Pdiddly2 03-Jan-22
Pdiddly2 03-Jan-22
Randog 03-Jan-22
shootemstraight1 03-Jan-22
Joe2Crow 03-Jan-22
CStyles 03-Jan-22
cobra 03-Jan-22
SteveD 03-Jan-22
SES 03-Jan-22
SES 03-Jan-22
Berny 04-Jan-22
MStyles 05-Jan-22
Mortis Sagittas 08-Jan-22
Pdiddly2 09-Jan-22
Seneca_Archer 09-Jan-22
Zbone 05-Apr-23
Zbone 05-Apr-23
Zbone 05-Apr-23
Zbone 05-Apr-23
Zbone 05-Apr-23
Mortis Sagittas 05-Apr-23
Zbone 06-Apr-23
Patrick 06-Apr-23
From: Stickbow Felty
Date: 29-Jan-20

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Just got my new to me American All Pro today. 60 inch 46 pounds. It will fit right in with my 2 Cheetah Hunter Specials and the Barracuda.

From: George D. Stout
Date: 29-Jan-20




Nice. The made some cool looking risers.

From: MStyles
Date: 29-Jan-20




I believe the All-Pro was AA’s top of the line hunting bow. I had one very briefly, as when I strung it up, it started to squirm around and blew up. Yours look’s like it’s an Oconto Falls, Wisc bow, They’re a first class recurve, imho.

From: Mortis Sagittas
Date: 29-Jan-20




I'm jealous. Saw that one but spent it all on Christmas. Enjoy that one!!

From: Gray Goose Shaft
Date: 29-Jan-20




Nice meaty riser. Are you going to put a bump in the rest or apply an elevated stick-on rest?

From: Stickbow Felty
Date: 29-Jan-20




Off the shelf.

From: Buzz
Date: 29-Jan-20




Good looking bow.

Enjoy.

From: cobra
Date: 30-Jan-20

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This is an AA Supreme Target about the same vintage, 68" #24 Oconto Falls WI.

From: Gray Goose Shaft
Date: 30-Jan-20




AA Supreme Target, not the economy model, huh? Beautiful, they just don't make them like that anymore.

Is there a purpose for the cut out on the back of the riser?

From: cobra
Date: 30-Jan-20




vintagearchery.org has a nice collection of vintage catalogs..the American Archery bows of 1968-1970 had this similar riser design. Whether it was aesthetic or a matter of weight reduction I don't know...Reminds me of the "Large Horn" riser designs of this period. I have old Browning and Bear target bows 67-70 and they shared this feature also. All I know is you got enough exotic wood in these old risers to build an attractive shed if the bow ever failed! :)

From: MStyles
Date: 30-Jan-20

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I gave my brother my AA Cheetah Hunter Special, 48#@28”. It has the same riser shape as your All Pro. Very pleasing to look at and a very comfortable grip.

From: Stickbow Felty
Date: 30-Jan-20

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From: Bugle up
Date: 30-Jan-20

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Good to see some other folks shooting American Archery bows. I'm using one for my whitetail hunting in Illinois and find it to be an excellent shooter. Don't know that mine is as nice looking as Stickbow Felty's but I'm really most interested in how well I shoot with it. It was given to me by an uncle who painted it. I've just left the paint on.

From: CStyles
Date: 30-Jan-20

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Here is the bow Mike gave me in th wild!

From: smrobertson
Date: 30-Jan-20

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Here's my Cheetha. Beautiful wood, grip feels good and shoots good at 47lb. 64" of sweet shooting bow.

From: Chas
Date: 30-Jan-20




Nice find Greg!! Hoping to see it in person if I can ever make Tues nights shoots.

From: Stickbow Felty
Date: 30-Jan-20




You have to get your priorities straight,shooting comes first.LOL

From: Stickbow Felty
Date: 03-Jan-22




Mark ll 2 cheetah special hunters and an all pro.

From: Jon Stewart
Date: 03-Jan-22




I have the Cheetah in a compound and it also has a very nice looking riser.

From: CLAYBORN
Date: 03-Jan-22




I have a Nirk, that is actually a Shark by American Archery. Nice bow good shooter.

From: Jack
Date: 03-Jan-22




Hi folks. Interesting thread. Yes, AA did make some fine looking bows. If any anyone has a 50's to early / mid 60's Cheetah Special or Barracuda that they might consider letting go of to a new home I would be interested. Preference would be 58 - 62",40 - 45#, black glass. Thanks. Take care.

From: Jack
Date: 03-Jan-22




Hi folks. Interesting thread. Yes, AA did make some fine looking bows. If any anyone has a 50's to early / mid 60's Cheetah Special or Barracuda that they might consider letting go of to a new home I would be interested. Preference would be 58 - 62",40 - 45#, black glass. Thanks. Take care.

From: cobra
Date: 03-Jan-22




Just wondering...a friend sold me some AA bows in excellent condition for just about nothing. I generally respect his opinion on vintage bows due to the fact that his father, two brothers and himself bought up barrels of NOS bows after compounds were introduced and dealers couldn't give away a recurve.

It was his opinion that American Archery bows were prone to delaminating and coming apart. I think it was thought to be inferior glue. Anybody heard this? The only bow I kept was the 24# target bow. Even at that light weight, it came apart at the riser and I had to drill and glue dowels into it. I love the way it shoots.

From: Pdiddly2
Date: 03-Jan-22

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cobra...I have shot several hundred shots through this Special Hunter and it just keeps on ticking. It is 52# @ 28" and draw 27". I have a few other AA bows and no issues.

The Special Hunter's are very stable bows...this was three shots from a paced 22 yards...two 1918's and an 1820.

From: Pdiddly2
Date: 03-Jan-22

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Here's another picture..only made the phenolic I-beam one year.

From: Pdiddly2
Date: 03-Jan-22

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The whole package...

From: Randog
Date: 03-Jan-22




Congrats Greg, nice looking bows.

From: shootemstraight1
Date: 03-Jan-22

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Here’s my addition. My first recurve that I bought for myself in 1994 for $20 off of a friend of a friend. AA American Hunter 56” 42# @ 28” draw. Still shoots nice!

From: Joe2Crow
Date: 03-Jan-22




I recently acquired an American Hunter and a Hunter Special. Nice bows. Now on the lookout for a Shark and a Super Nitro.

From: CStyles
Date: 03-Jan-22

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Clarendon Hills the 1960's, cross the tracks and make the first right, less than half a block and your at the American Archery factory. That is what we called it when we're kids.

From: cobra
Date: 03-Jan-22

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Most of you AA guys know this, but American Archery produced bows in Oconto Falls, WI. and later Florence WI., gaining some publicity in the late 1960s due to Packer Jerry Kramer taking ownership.

From: SteveD Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 03-Jan-22




Art Laha's bows back in the day. Don't see too many come up for sale. Nice looking pics of those still around.

From: SES
Date: 03-Jan-22

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My Cheetah hunter special that i had 2 bears refinish.

From: SES
Date: 03-Jan-22

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The other side.

From: Berny
Date: 04-Jan-22

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Here's my '68 (?) "Super Nitro", somehow it got to the UK ;-) 54" with 32" draw limit! ?? Zebrawood & bubinga ....

From: MStyles
Date: 05-Jan-22




American Archery bows from Clarendon Hills, Illinois, have stickers or a decal. The Oconto Falls, Wis and later use silk screens.

From: Mortis Sagittas
Date: 08-Jan-22




Vintage,pm sent.

From: Pdiddly2
Date: 09-Jan-22




Vintage:

The brace height for different years of AA bows was measured from different reference points on the bow...a close look at catalogues will inform you of the reference point.

They varied from back of riser to belly of riser and finally to the pivot point. Hence the radical difference you have seen.

The recommended BH does not matter whatsoever to me as I ALWAYS measure every bow I buy a string for, then purchase the proper length string. Then I fine tune for BH by shooting and adjusting.

From: Seneca_Archer
Date: 09-Jan-22




A lot of nice looking AA bows here. Thanks for sharing everyone.

From: Zbone
Date: 05-Apr-23

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I brought this year old thread to the top to ask Pdiddly2 a question on my American Archery Super Nitro fistmele... From above:

"From: Pdiddly2 Date: 09-Jan-22

Vintage:

The brace height for different years of AA bows was measured from different reference points on the bow...a close look at catalogues will inform you of the reference point.

They varied from back of riser to belly of riser and finally to the pivot point. Hence the radical difference you have seen.

The recommended BH does not matter whatsoever to me as I ALWAYS measure every bow I buy a string for, then purchase the proper length string. Then I fine tune for BH by shooting and adjusting."

I think I have a 1969 model...

From: Zbone
Date: 05-Apr-23

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It's 45 lbs @ 28" and AMO is 54", with serial number "9SN396"... I take that as the 396 bow manufactured in 1969... It has a Zebrawood Ibeam and I think Africian Bubinga riser...

The 1968-1969 catalog indicates Fistmele: 6/34" - 7-1/8", but the 1970 - 1975 catalog indicates: Fistmele: 8-1/2" - 9-1/2"...

I now have the right size 50" string on it, when it had a 48" string when I bought it and fistmele looked too long...

"They varied from back of riser to belly of riser and finally to the pivot point. Hence the radical difference you have seen."

In the catalogs I couldn't find the reference points...

Pdiddly2 - What should my fistmele be and measured from what points...

Thank you sir...

From: Zbone
Date: 05-Apr-23

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From: Zbone
Date: 05-Apr-23

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From: Zbone
Date: 05-Apr-23

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Sorry for the double photo...

From: Mortis Sagittas
Date: 05-Apr-23




Zbone, if it helps I have the same bow and my brace is at 6 7/16" from the pivot. When the number look low for AA after 68 they measured from the pivot point. The bow stayed the same from its intro just changing where it was measured.

On a side note, from the collection I've got it appears they also built the MarkII on the same form with different lams. I also have a 54" Hunter that seems to be off the same form.

Anyway if you've got 68-75 AA's and the catalog says a bigger number measure from the back of the bow and if it says smaller number measure from the pivot. Hope this helps

From: Zbone
Date: 06-Apr-23




Yes sir Joe, that is exactly what I was looking for, much obliged... Kinda figured the smaller brace was to the pivot, thank you much for confirming... Now that I have the correct string will start tuning to that 6-3/4" - 7-1/8" range...

From: Patrick
Date: 06-Apr-23




I recently got an original 1961, 37#, 64" Cheetah recurve, with factory rest and plate, I don't think it was ever shot.

I can tell why it was one of their cheaper options: Not quite as "finished" as their higher end line of bows from the same period, but it's a nice shooting bow with very nice lines, especially when braced.

Ugly woven glass color on the belly, looks like a very light tan with some pink and orange in the mix and woven white glass on the back. Poorly sculpted tips painted Black and white like "layers" are quite a bit bigger than other bows from that era.

It also has the specs hard stamped on the off side of the shelf. Huge stamp, the good thing is I'll never lose the information about this bow, crazy deep stamp too.

Not the best looking bow but definitely a nice piece that was only offered in 1961 in that configuration. I'll see if I can get some pictures up soon...





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