Have a couple questions about aluminum arrows.Setting up a new bow its a 53# recurve shooting 2117 with 145 gr tips seem a little stiff but not terrible.Need to get more arrows was looking at 2016,s does that sound about right? Also I have not used aluminum arrows for probably 20 yrs went to pick up a couple at local archery shop said easton no longer made?Is this true?Looked on line saw a couple places had the legacy shafts is that all thats made? Thanks,Joe

Easton still make aluminum arrows go to Easton web site as for arrow how long do you desire the arrow, what weight tip you plane on using what is the recurve, is it 53# at your draw length, and what is your draw length ,

You need a new archery shop, probably Easton "Tribute" shafts will meet your needs, they are available at THREE RIVERS ARCHERY (a site sponsor) as well as many other dealers, that's what I shoot now.Easton Platinums or Camo Hunters if you need a bigger size selection.Good LUCK

For one thing, the person at that archery shop probably needs to either get a new job or at least have enough common sense to defer to Easton's site before commenting.

Easton makes a number of shafts of different nomenclature and the Legacy was probably one of the more expensive ones; the only reason I ever shot Legacys were the fact that they were the only kind that had them in 2020 spine. There are a number of others Easton still makes that are cheaper and more popular, most notably the Gamegetter and Camo Hunter shafts, the latter having a greater degree of spine variation offered.

Gotta agree with bigdog21: We need to have more info about arrow length, point weight and ACTUAL bow weight at YOUR draw length. I guess 2016s could work for 53#...if they were cut to 25 inches and had a 100 gr field point. There are a number of spines that are a little lighter than 2117 but a little heavier than 2016--- you could try 2018, 2020, or 2213.

Wow.... that’s got to be the crappiest “local archery shop” in existence! That’d be like Goodyear not making tires....

As bigdog said, the correct shaft depends on you and your bow... and the string and the strike plate and a whole long list of variables. That said, if you draw around 27” and you like your arrows to be about 28”, you’re describing exactly what I shoot - a 2016 @ 28” with 125 up front and drawn to 27” out of a #55@28” Howatt Hunter with a B-50 string.

So you’re real close unless you have a 28+ inch DL

Thanks I didn't think that sounded right but I've mainly used wood and carbon for many years the last aluminum I used were the green gamegetters with glue on nocks.Are the tributes comparable and as durable? Gf the bow has d97 string and is 53 @28 I draw a little over 27.The 2117's are 30 inches with 145 tip. Thanks Joe

I'd stick with the 2117 and go up to 175 or 200 grain points if you need them, and in fact that's exactly what I'm doing off similar weight bows.

Joe, Well first, change archery shops. That guy is absolutely clueless. Easton makes plenty of aluminum shafts in lots of sizes.

Depending on your draw length, there are likely several sizes, but need to know more about your setup. Need your arrow length and your actual draw length...what kind of bow and string type.

Link to an old thread which covered some of these issues, Red. Hope the spine charts help you to decide. God and Christ Bless!

http://leatherwall.bowsite.com/tf/lw/thread2.cfm? forum=23&threadid=285108&messages=3&CATEGORY=2#4132794

Lancaster Archery or Bowhunters Warehouse has them. I have a bunch in XX75 cut to 29" that I should sell off as well.

Have you tried a bare shaft? Remove feathers and add a bit of electrical tape wrapped around the shaft in the area of the fletching to mimic the weight of the feathers and shoot them. Tail left is weak, tail right is stiff (RH shooter). This will also tell you about your nock point position. You will need good, consistent, form or you will get inconsistent and inaccurate results.

2016 left 29" 125 tip. 1916 cut 28" with 125gr tip 2117 with 175gr is a lot of weight to push. 2016 has been my choice for years with bows from 48# up to 54# just use different tip weight to get the spine you need.. xx75 camo hunters are still being sold and one of the best. I tried the tribue they seemed a little easier to bend.

I think the tribute shafts were meant to be a low cost alternative for archers shooting 2016 or lighter, bigdog21...cheap, but the ones I had were a great value for the price. I can see how someone would view the Camo Hunters as more durable...I think they are as well

If all else fails go with 2114. I cut mine at29” and use 145 grain points. I use these shafts in bows from 48-55#. 2117 is size I use from my 60# bow. I use the old Easton charts not these new computer ones. The platinum or camo hunters are a better shaft and more durable.

So you're pulling 50# basically at 27" draw. With a D-97 string, you have some choices depending on how long you want your arrows. With a 29" arrow you could shoot the 2016 with 125/145...or a 30" 2018. I like the smaller diameter aluminum 20/64 versus bigger. You could shoot a 2114 but you can get the 2016 in a lot of different alloys from Easton. The Tribute is XX75 but a tad softer than the camo which is a T-9 alloy of XX75.

copy N paste this address, from Lancaster archery

will take yo a page of all kinds of aluminum arrows and choices

http://www.lancasterarchery.com/arrows/arrow-shafts.html? manufacturer=8763&material=327

as George said a 2016 sounds good to me

2016 cut to 28.5" with 145 up front.

Same setup with a 2114.

A 1916 with 125 cut to 28.5 is also a possibility.

2018 and 2117 are too stiff.

I can't believe no one has asked you how deep the bows shelf is cut, is it less than center, center, or past center, that will make a big difference in the spine you will need, Your 2117's spine 75#@29" so unless your cut past center your way over spined.

Bob

Search "arrows by Kelly", I believe he's a member here, lots of good info on his site.

Thanks for all the info guys sounds like the 2016 may be a good shaft to try and thanks for all the supplier info. Joe

Just an FYI - Lancaster will sell you Tribute shafts one at a time for $3 a pop; 3R had them feather-fletched by the half-dozen, last I checked. Jazz are the same shaft, but purple. I think Lancaster has those feather-fletched and sold individually.... Both Jazz & Tribute top out at 2016.

As I said before, I draw about 27” and cut my arrows to 28”; I really only use points in 125 - 135 for Judos - and I shoot the 2016s out of my recurves (#55@28”) and 1916 out of my RER longbow (#55@28); 1816s out of a Howatt Bamboo Viper (#50@28”). Thinking you’ll find something that’ll work.

Durability-wise.... they remind me of the old American Eagles - probably a better choice when your arrows are more likely to be lost than destroyed.

With my Bear T/D, A riser,#3 limbs, I'm drawing right at 50 lbs. I'm shooting 2117's cut to 31" with 175 grain tips. Arrows come out of the bow like darts. I shot the 2117's for many years out of wheel bows and had at least 4 dozen and wanted to try to use them before buying any new arrows. The fellow I bought the bow from suggested the 175 grain tips,and they work good.

sammyg: With that arrow length and point weight, 2117s sound appropriate, of course...although I'm kind of inclined to believe that a lighter spine with a lighter point weight could work as well. Is your draw length 31" or do you absolutely have to have your shafts that long (purposeful overhang)?

like lawn darts :)

Yes I know a lighter spine and arrowhead would work just as good but like I said I have right at 4 dozen 2117's and wanted to see if I could get them to shoot good and not have to buy new arrows.They do shoot good for me out to 25 yards which is about as far a shot I'll take when hunting.I'm not planning on shooting field courses or anything out past 25-30 yards.If I need to shoot farther than that I'll take up shooting my wheel bow with sights again. I did re-measure my arrows and from the bottom of the string nock to the tip of the insert they measure 30.5 inches.Everyone has an opinion and is entitled to it,but this set-up fits my needs just fine.

Hey sammyg, not knockin' ya hustle; if you already had them on hand and they're doing what you need them to do, then all is awesome. Maybe it's best that you use that because you're already used to them and know how they will fly. No need to think anyone was criticizing your choice

I've been an aluminum shooter most of my 62 years in archery/bowhunting (I started in 1956). Recurve, Longbow & compound. I've also experimented from extreme light to heavy to achieve things for various reasons. I shoot with split finger a 2117, cut 29" (my draw is 28) out of 50# Longbow & a 125gr tip when not using wood shafts. I shoot 3-D & Field but mostly with wood shafts. I use the Aluminums more when hunting but they do just fine for me on a Field course (my sight picture is pretty much the same as with woods). I have found "most" can get the flight needed if not extreme light or heavy. I use 3 sizes out of my 60# compound (release though) 1913s for field & Target, 2213s indoor & 2216s hunting & 3-D. Very little adjustments changing other than distance. I use the 1913s because I need to reach 80 yds & it still weighs in at 395grns. I had a shop/lanes from 1964 through 1982 & if the draw was not under 27 or over 30" 2117s worked for a wide variety of weights & archers. Seems like in those days 2117s & 2020s served the majority with 2018s & 2016s next. I for sure had a lot more 2117s in stock than any other size.. This was b/4 Carbons were even thought of.

Geeeze bigdog21 that's exactly what I do for 50-55# bows ,,jeffw

This arrow stuff confuses me. I'm shooting a 46@28 psax. I draw 29.5ish. I'm shooting 31inch 2117 with 145 field points and 135 sharks. They fly like darts. Everybody says I need 200 up front but they shoot good bare shaft, and Fletched. Paper tuning looks good. I'd say maybe add an inch to arrow length. 2117 are my favorite aluminum arrow.

just kidding him. nothing wrong with heavy arrows

This arrow stuff confuses me too.Especially if you get away from aluminum shafts.

Go with the platinum or the xx75`s 3rivers sells a trial pack of 3 different types of arrows to test out.Yep sure is confusing sammyg.

Trapperman, as said above, cut-past-center, tab-or-glove etc. all make a difference in arrow requirements. What works for you and your bow might not for anyone else.

IMO there is no substitute for trying different combinations until one clearly works best for you. Emperical, I am ;-)

We all do things a little different, so if it helps, I shoot 3-under and gap, so I like to leave mine full length. Doing this allows me to use 2016’s from bows drawing 45# up to 50#. For 50-60#, I use 2117’s. Most all with 145gr tips. I draw just under 28”. 50# is kind of the pivot point for me; both 2016’s and 2117’s shoot well. If you want to bridge the two, 2018’s may be best.

most archery shops around here are compound shops n don't car didly aboute trad.

I THOUGHT that dude sounded like a salesman pushing junxing stuff.

a 2018 thread revived.

Ha, got me, I didn’t notice the date. Carry on…

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