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Lets build a shipping carton!

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From: Nemah
Date: 21-Dec-17

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Here's how I make my own shipping cartons for 60" recurve bows. I found this years ago on another archery site and modified it for my use. Change the measurements to fit your bow. Step 1: Gather materials. Here's what I use. Heavy Duty Large carton from Home depot-$3.49.

From: Nemah
Date: 21-Dec-17

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And....

From: Nemah
Date: 21-Dec-17




The large ruler is 6', the smaller is 3'.

From: Nemah
Date: 21-Dec-17

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I marked my yard stick like this. Modify yours to fit your bow.

From: Nemah
Date: 21-Dec-17

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Cut the carton at the seam..

From: Nemah
Date: 21-Dec-17

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Trim off that little extra to make it even. It will haunt you later if you don't.

From: Nemah
Date: 21-Dec-17

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Cut the flaps off both sides. Be neat. Put your hand where the knife has been, not where it's going.

From: Nemah
Date: 21-Dec-17

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Good work!

From: Nemah
Date: 21-Dec-17

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Use the marks on your yard stick to mark both ends of the carton.

From: Nemah
Date: 21-Dec-17




OOPPSS!! I messed up. The above photo shows me measuring and marking the length of the carton. It's the length of your bow PLUS 6-1/2 or 7". Sorry!

From: Nemah
Date: 21-Dec-17

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Cut off the excess.

From: Nemah
Date: 21-Dec-17

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NOW use your yard stick to mark the box panels. Mark both ends of the carton.

From: Nemah
Date: 21-Dec-17

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Notice that I turned the carton over so the Home Depot logo is on the inside of the box. Clamp a straightedge and the carton to a bench and cut off the excess. Your carton will now be sized.

From: Nemah
Date: 21-Dec-17

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Make a wooden tool with a tapered, but blunt point. You will want to score the cardboard without tearing it too much. I use a rounded-over dowel.

From: Nemah
Date: 21-Dec-17

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Clamp a straight edge to the cardboard and score the lines you marked with the yard stick. This will allow the cardboard to bend easier.

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Date: 21-Dec-17

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These line run the LENGTH of the carton.

From: Nemah
Date: 21-Dec-17

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Now we'll mark the end flaps of the carton. Measure in 3" and mark as shown.

From: Nemah
Date: 21-Dec-17

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Now we have to cut 1/4" slots to allow the ends to close properly. Just eye ball the lines and cut carefully.

From: ny yankee
Date: 21-Dec-17




Now THIS is cool! Hope there's more?

From: Nemah
Date: 21-Dec-17

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You'll cut off the entire square off one end. Be sure to cut off the square FROM THE SAME SIDE on the other end!

From: Nemah
Date: 21-Dec-17

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Here's what is should look like so far.

From: Nemah
Date: 21-Dec-17

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The folds in the carton are weak spots and must be reinforced. Use the flaps you cut off at the beginning and spray adhesive to do the job. READ THE DIRECTIONS on the spray adhesive!!

From: Nemah
Date: 21-Dec-17

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I measure the areas to be reinforced and mark the cardboard..

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Date: 21-Dec-17

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You'll need 6 pieces. Cut them to fit with your knife, or use a bandsaw. It's much easier...

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Date: 21-Dec-17

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Spray adhesive on the panels......

From: Nemah
Date: 21-Dec-17

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And on the carton where you marked out the areas. Follow directions on the spray can.

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Date: 21-Dec-17

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When they are ready (according to directions) place them over the areas to be reinforced and push them down. I use a Formica roller.

From: Nemah
Date: 21-Dec-17

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When the adhesive has cured, start folding the carton along the scored seams. Go slow, be careful.

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Date: 21-Dec-17

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Continue folding....

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Date: 21-Dec-17

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When you get here, spray adhesive on the edges to seal the box. Think before you spray!!

From: George D. Stout Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 21-Dec-17




If you have an appliance store near you, you can ask them for some refrigerator, or washer/dryer boxes. They usually just junk them anyway and will give them to you. A couple of those will make you a lot of shipping boxes.

From: Nemah
Date: 21-Dec-17

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Date: 21-Dec-17

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Press everything together tightly. I tape the folds for extra strength and to hold the box tightly till the glue dries.

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Date: 21-Dec-17

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Date: 21-Dec-17

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Trim the end pieces to fit when they are folded....

From: Nemah
Date: 21-Dec-17

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Spray adhesive on one end of the carton only, otherwise, you won't be able to slide your bow in! S means spray here.

From: Nemah
Date: 21-Dec-17

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Date: 21-Dec-17

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I add tape for strength.

From: Nemah
Date: 21-Dec-17

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Only tape the other end closed.(after the bow is in) Mark the carton.

From: Nemah
Date: 21-Dec-17

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Bubble wrap the bow and use scrap cardboard to reinforce the bow tips. INSURE THE CARTON AND DOCUMENT THE SALE OF THE BOW!!Good Luck! Richard

From: dkard
Date: 21-Dec-17




I have done this too. The trick is the straight edge so you get even folds.

Go to the local furniture companies and ask for boxes, they usually have refrigerator or couch boxes that really long.

The refrigerator boxes I run through the table saw to get clean straight edges

From: cobra
Date: 21-Dec-17




Thanks for taking the time to provide this thread. Great work and I just added it to favorites!

From: badger
Date: 21-Dec-17




Nice job on that, thanks for sharing!

From: JusPassin Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 21-Dec-17




A 1 knife too. Hard to beat that Leak.

From: MStyles
Date: 21-Dec-17




Thanks for taking the time to post this carton making tutorial. I’ve made my own cartons, but I just eyed it, now they’ll look much better. Floral shipping cartons can be grafted together with very good results too.

From: ny yankee
Date: 21-Dec-17




Yes, just added to favorites!

From: The Lost Mohican
Date: 21-Dec-17




Nice Lesson and photos! Thanks for sharing. TLM

From: RonG
Date: 21-Dec-17




Thanks for the time and the photo's, I do mine the same except I don't score the card board I have an eight foot steel ruler I just lay on the cardboard and bend it there.

They make strong boxes and i use the Home Depot ones also.

From: bodymanbowyer
Date: 21-Dec-17




Cool Richard I was wondering how or where you got your strong Bow boxes. Very sturdy :-) JF

From: Ken Schwartz
Date: 21-Dec-17




Well done ! Home made works! Thanks for taking the time to photo and share. Ken

From: nrthernrebel05
Date: 21-Dec-17




Great design Thanks for sharing.

From: Stoner
Date: 21-Dec-17




Great job got it saved to favorites. John

From: RymanCat
Date: 21-Dec-17




It looks wonderful but you sure do like work. How long did it take you start to finished wondering.

From: monkeyball
Date: 21-Dec-17




Why would a guy that builds an exceptional bow not be expected to build an equally exceptional box. Nice follow along, super sturdy construction, reinforcement where needed, and ample room for padding.

My kind of bow box!

Good Shooting->->->->Craig

From: stick33
Date: 21-Dec-17




Another tip... Save all the boxes from the bows you buy. When you decide to sell, you'll have a box!

From: Frisky
Date: 22-Dec-17




Great box! I just shipped my first bow, a 60" recurve. I made a really good box, as I didn't want anything to happen to the Bow of Bows. Mine was a simple design. I took two 3 foot Priority Mail boxes, one 6.5" wide and the other just a hair narrower. I cut the narrower box to 2/3rds length and slid it into the wider box, after opening up the end of the wider box. I used the green packaging bubble you used and used a firm foam around the tips to protect them. My box ended up being 60" long. I made it so it was hard to tell it wasn't just one box. The bow is in transit to be delivered today.

Joe

From: Nemah
Date: 22-Dec-17




Glenn, it takes me 20 to 30 minutes to make this bow carton. Having all the measurements clearly marked on the yard sticks makes the job easier. I can take the extra time because I'm retired and I only make bows for the pure enjoyment of bow building. It's not a business with me, just a hobby, and I take pride in the bows, so why not have a little pride in the carton? I have even decorated a few of the boxes with bow hunting scenes, just for the enjoyment of immersing myself in traditional archery. Good shooting! Richard

From: Nemah
Date: 22-Dec-17




Oh, I forgot! I once shipped a bow to Texas in a well- used carton, covered with torn shipping labels and frayed shipping tape. It really was sturdy, but a mess. When the bow arrived, the riser was nearly broken in half, held together by the fiberglass on the back of the bow. It could not be repaired. It took nearly 3 months for the USPS to honor the insurance claim, stating that the carton was defective, I had no proof of value, it was damaged before it was shipped, I didn't file the claim soon enough, it was packaged poorly, they didn't have the damaged bow and broken carton in their possession, etc., etc. What a mess! So now I take a little extra time to protect the bow in a strong and proper shipping carton, document proof of value and sale, and anything else the USPS may ask for. I just feel better sending off a new bow in a new, sturdy carton. RKK

From: bodymanbowyer
Date: 22-Dec-17




Great shipping boxes. I've seen them. I thought you had them professionally made :-) JF

From: RonG
Date: 22-Dec-17




Jeff, They are professionally made, by Nemah.....Ha!Ha!

I've sold three re-curves and one longbow shipped way out west using the same technique and they arrived unscathed, I just sent a large recurve up north, I tried the triangle approach because I think it could be a little stronger, it arrived undamaged, it wasn't the same quality as the square boxes, I used the standard cardboard box, not strong enough. I was quoted 50.00 to make a carton to ship a bow that is when I decided to get my cardboard from home depot and make my own just like Nemah did.

Thanks again Nemah for the tutorial.

From: longdraw
Date: 22-Dec-17




Great job! Thanks for sharing.

From: GF
Date: 10-May-18




TTT for ehorstick

From: Gray Goose Shaft
Date: 10-May-18




Nice sturdy carton. Something I do if I remember is to put an additional shipping label inside. The local USPS told me if the outside label is destroyed, it would end up in a lost package warehouse and be hard to claim.

From: KodaChuck
Date: 10-May-18




U-line sells a telescoping box that is perfect for most recurves in width and telescope the box to the proper length and tape. Good tips in this thread. The best for me was the use of a rounded ball to score the folds.

From: Kwikdraw
Date: 10-May-18




Good thread and thanks Nemah! You are a treasure!

From: Bownut
Date: 10-May-18




Excellent post, thank you.

From: Dry Bones
Date: 18-Apr-20




Refreshed for anyone else that needed it.

-Bones

From: 2 bears
Date: 19-Apr-20




Excellent. Thanks for your time & know how. >>>>-----> Ken

From: fdp
Date: 07-Jan-22




Ttt

From: Longcruise
Date: 08-Jan-22




I've built a few of those. I suggest NOT using HD box stock. They are not nearly as strong as the box stock sold at Lowe's.

From: Jon Stewart
Date: 08-Jan-22




Free larger boxes at your local bicycle shop.

From: Longcruise
Date: 08-Jan-22




Never thought of the bike shops. I'm surrounded by bike shops and bicycling culture so I'll keep it in mind.

From: Jon Stewart
Date: 08-Jan-22




longcruise. Lot of uses for those bicycle boxes. I make triangle boxes for sending off arrows and cut out animal targets to shoot at.

From: Bowbaker Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member
Date: 08-Jan-22




Pizza cutter works very well to score the cardboard before folding.

From: bodymanbowyer
Date: 08-Jan-22




Don't forget the body shops. Quarter panels and roof skins come in some big thick boxes. Now that I'm out of body shop environment. I have to stop by and pick some up now and then. Just get them before the maintenance guy cuts them up to throw them in the cardboard dumpster. Or tell somebody ahead that you're looking for some so they'll save them for you. JF

From: Randog
Date: 08-Jan-22




Lots of good ideas, thanks to all.

From: Longcruise
Date: 08-Jan-22




Jon, for arrows these boxes are free from USPS.

https://store.usps.com/store/product/shipping- supplies/dual-use-priority-mailpriority-mail- express-medium-tube-1098-P_O_1098M

From: leftwing
Date: 09-Jan-22




Beautifully done Nemah, thank you for sharing. Happy New Year!

From: Dry Bones
Date: 09-Jan-22




Excellent directions. Thanks.

-Bones

From: bodymanbowyer
Date: 24-Jan-23




TTT

From: bowhunt
Date: 24-Jan-23




Your box might be as nice as your bows LOL.Just kidding ofcourse!I thought I made nice boxes till I saw your method.

Good thread

From: Babysaph Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 24-Jan-23




Very nice.

From: Gray Goose Shaft
Date: 24-Jan-23




"I take pride in the bows, so why not have a little pride in the carton? I have even decorated a few of the boxes with bow hunting scenes, just for the enjoyment of immersing myself in traditional archery. Good shooting! Richard"

RKK, gentleman all around.

From: bodymanbowyer
Date: 25-Jan-23




Ttt

From: bodymanbowyer
Date: 26-Jan-23




TTT for a new guy

From: Wapiti - - M. S. Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 27-Jan-23




Very nice thank you for sharing.

From: Fisher
Date: 27-Jan-23




Wow, impressive engineering, design, skills, dedication, and completion of the project! I commend you! Now when I ship bows the boxes will need to look better - the bows have been well protected.

This should somehow be archived in a handy location. I would like to somehow copy it and save it as a document tutorial. Maybe someone will explain how to do that.

Our two Siamese kittens have been reading along with me. They just told me that I need to get busy and use some of your methods with cardboard boxes to build them a jungle gym, playhouse, and a climbing tree.

We are planning a house build so I will finally have room to do projects in the house, basement or garage. No basement and a small house has been challenging.

Thanks again and best wishes!

From: GUTPILEPA
Date: 27-Jan-23




Very very well done and useful

From: Fisher
Date: 27-Jan-23




Richard - The recipients of bows from you must be delighted at their condition and the custom shipping box. Again, thank you for sharing your methods

You may appreciate my experience receiving something packed and shipped in your style:

Recently I received a very nice vintage rifle that had been shipped from about 10 states away. It was a Christmas gift from wifey so it is extra special. The condition is pristine and it is unfired and in the original box with the original paperwork. The seller may have seen your tutorial and became inspired. The rifle was wrapped in bubble wrap and taped, then padded, packed, and stabilized inside the original box. Then the original box was wrapped in bubble wrap and taped then padded with white sheet foam and taped, and then sheets of cardboard were placed and taped on the sides - with no tape touching the original box. Finally, this was wrapped in bubble wrap and taped and then put into a larger box. In both ends the seller had put a cardboard I- beam for strength and to protect against drops. Then he wrapped the entire box in a layer of 2” clear shipping tape. Being very careful and deliberate it took me approximately 45 minutes to unpack the rifle. The packing was masterful! Now I am eager to get it to the range to gently break in the barrel and enjoy shooting it.

From: Nemah
Date: 27-Jan-23




When I received a new '59 Bear Kodiak from the factory, it was in a clear plastic bag flopping around in a regular shipping carton. No padding. Glad you folks liked the tutorial....I'm making two more cartons this afternoon. RKK





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