From: Rayzor
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Date: 13-Apr-12 |
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Here's some pics of VPA's New Broadhead. Single Bevel 2 blade with Offset and Angled blades. The offset angled blade make for a unique tough split point tip similar to a drill. 325gr. Lighter models will come in the next few months. $49.95 per 3 pack delivered. They are not yet in the rayzor-vpa.com webstore. If interested send me an email to [email protected]. In stock and ready for shipment.
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From: Rayzor
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Date: 14-Apr-12 |
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Like all VPA broadheads, the new heads are precision CNC machined in one piece from high carbon, tool grade steel. This model is heat treated and through hardened to 54 Rockwell. The are treated to our ultra slick proprietary coating for increased penetration and corrosion resistance.
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From: Rayzor
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Date: 14-Apr-12 |
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Here is the offset split point. Very tough and bites well.
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From: Rayzor
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Date: 14-Apr-12 |
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It was hard to get a god pic of the angular plane of the blades.
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From: t-dog
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Date: 14-Apr-12 |
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Nice!!
Mark
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From: Herdbull
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Date: 14-Apr-12 |
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What is the weight? Do they come right bevel as well? Are they pre-sharpened and ready to hunt? Thanks, Mike
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From: roger
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Date: 14-Apr-12 |
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He said, 325gr.
Nice looking head, but I need 836gr minimum on a broadhead to kill deer.
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From: xtrema312
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Date: 15-Apr-12 |
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Are the standard VPA penetrator heads offset like this or is this something different yet other than the single bevel?
I like the idea a lot. Hope to see them at about 200-250 screw in.
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From: Elkhuntr
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Date: 15-Apr-12 |
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xtrema, the standard vpa penetrator heads that i have are not offset like this.
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From: deerhunt51
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Date: 15-Apr-12 |
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To me it just looks to blunt.
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From: Biathlonman
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Date: 15-Apr-12 |
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They look nice but WAY to expensive...
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From: Tracy
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Date: 15-Apr-12 |
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Very unique.
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From: Nuctech
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Date: 15-Apr-12 |
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I kinda thought the same thing deerhunt51. How is that tip sharp with being so offset?
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From: roger
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Date: 15-Apr-12 |
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Personally, I like their double bevel heads much better. Single bevel heads are generally always blunt and are more prone to deflection.
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From: AndyB
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Date: 15-Apr-12 |
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300+ grain broadhead? would this head be specifically designed for really big game and really heavy bows? Maybe an 80 to 100 # bow to hunt rhino, hippo, elephant, cape buffalo?
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From: David Alford
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Date: 15-Apr-12 |
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I want a bh to slide around a rib so the tip design looks ideal. Agree with need for lower weights. Kudos to VPA for their dedication to quality.
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From: TradbowBob
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Date: 16-Apr-12 |
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I truly don't understand these high weight broadheads. I shoot a 50 lb. bow for hunting and really wonder if such a thing is needed to punch through the 12" thickness of the average deer. Moose? Maybe. It will be interesting to see one that is about half the weight of this one.
TBB
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From: Elkhuntr
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Date: 16-Apr-12 |
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tbb, vpa offers their penetrator double bevel in lower weights. although the penetrator does not have the off set blades, it would give you some idea on what they look like in lower weights.
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From: frogdipper
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Date: 16-Apr-12 |
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When I buy broadheads I always want at least six of the same, preferably eight...five in my quiver and the others for practice. Could these heads really be worth $100 for six? What will they do that a 2-blade Zwickey, at a quarter of the price, cannot do? I can get my zwickeys up to 250 grains or so with a steel broadhead adapter, so the weight is there if I wanted it. Don't get me wrong, vpa may be the toughest broadhead in the universe, but like the high priced 'Alaskan' heads, it seems like extreme overkill, and the price alone will keep me away.
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From: Sapcut
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Date: 16-Apr-12 |
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I totally get and understand the preference for some to think the prices for broadheads are too much for them.
But, are these the very same people that would pay $400 for a Swarovski scope or $600 for Swarovski binoculars when $90 Leupolds works fine? Or the very same people that would pay $40k for a brand new Chevy truck when a used Toyota truck is more reliable at 1/3 the price?
Simply personal preference.
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From: rc
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Date: 16-Apr-12 |
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Who spines their arrows for a 325grain tip? I'm sure it would be a great broadhead. I need something much lighter unless I start tuning with extremely light stiff carbon arrows.
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From: Sapcut
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Date: 16-Apr-12 |
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rc, precisely.
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From: Rayzor
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Date: 19-Apr-12 |
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These heads were not brought out to compete with the heads mentioned that are a fraction of the cost. This model is meant for the largest of game and dangerous game....Big Bears, Buff etc... All VPA broadheads are CNC Machined, in one piece, from solid piece of high carbon, tool grade, steel. The are not assembled, welded, cast or molded. There really are not many heads on the market that would even be close in comparison strength wise for anywhere near the same money. The heads that we are likely to be compared to most often in that market are priced at over $100 per 3.
Here is a little better pic of the tip too. These heads will require some finish sharpening but no major work. I hope and assume everyone will do after shooting anyway.
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From: Nuctech
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Date: 20-Apr-12 |
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Thanks for the better picture of the tip Rayzor, that clears up my question. have a good one!
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From: Rayzor
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Date: 22-Apr-12 |
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We hope to get them down in the 150-175 range. They will be similar profiles to our 2 blade "Penetrator". The heavier ones were done first becasue we have a couple guys going after cape buffalo and elephant in the next year or so.
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From: Andy Man
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Date: 22-Apr-12 |
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The Zwickey eskimoe has effectively taken just about everything on planet earth with the exception of a dinasour, and reasonably priced;
I will admit that the 3 blade VPA terminator is a VERY NICE broadhead and tried them last year and was happy with their flight and preformace;
but I just can not justify the price when I can do the same thing with the Zwickey
But nice to have choices
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From: Westbrook
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Date: 23-Apr-12 |
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The 3 blade VPA is about as good a head as you can get IMO, especialy the 1.25 dia.
I dont like the bluntness of these 2 blades, for what ever reason, they may work but it seems like they would work better with a little longer taper.
Andy Ivy (TradTusker) guides Water Buffalo & other hunts in Australia. Has been keeping data on what heads work and which ones fail. The only arrow he has ever seen pass through a Buff had a 300g VPA 3 blade on the front of it. He didnt name any but he said you would be suprised at some of the high dollar heads that that "cant take it".
An Australia or Africa hunt just aint in the cards for me, so I wont sweat the issue to much. But for North America, a big Grizzly Kodiak 200g is real hard to beat in the single bevel 2 blade.
Eric
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From: LongbowArchitect
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Date: 23-Apr-12 |
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What is the reason for the offset blades?
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From: George D. Stout
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Date: 23-Apr-12 |
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It's for making a broadhead, a pry-bar as well.
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From: George D. Stout
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Date: 23-Apr-12 |
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I meant that...really. One thing to remember, for each job you ask a broadhead to do, you will subtract from another aspect, albeit minor at times. However, the more you cause rotational action through a substantive mass, you will take from the velocity/momentum that the arrow is carrying at contact. That probably won't mean squat when going through a thin-skinned whitetail in the boiler room, but it will show up more as the medium gets thicker and more resistant. Those heads are made to twist upon contact.....so take that in consideration if you plan on buying them. The twisting will slow the momentum. Just sayin', they ain't for everyone.
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From: elbow
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Date: 23-Apr-12 |
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Why bother. You can buy Grizzlies from Zipper for less than half the pricer or do what I do and get razorheads at yard sales.
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From: frogdipper
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Date: 23-Apr-12 |
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Once they get down to say 6 for $35 I may give them a try! At the current price the heartbreak of losing one would be more than I could bare.
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From: Bowmania
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Date: 23-Apr-12 |
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The longer you play with archery, you find that if you gain something on one side you loose something on the other side. In this case, your gaining tip weight and loosing wallet weight. Who the "H" is going to pay 50 bucks for 3 broadheads.
Bowmania
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From: Sapcut
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Date: 23-Apr-12 |
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It hilarious how you guys say something is too expensive...until YOU want to pay for it. Then its.."well, different strokes for different folks.
We all pay for things that others may think are waaayy out of line...because we like it. So what. Why are broadheads any different?
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From: deepshaft
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Date: 23-Apr-12 |
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Looks like a solid head but I have yet to see any critter an Ace Standard can't kill and they're about $20 per six.
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From: roger
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Date: 24-Apr-12 |
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Richie, that Ashby poster just fell off your ceiling, again..... :)
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From: Breakfast Boy
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Date: 24-Apr-12 |
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"Who the "H" is going to pay 50 bucks for 3 broadheads."
The Ashby single bevel heads and some others have been selling at $100 per 3 for a while now. These new VPA single bevel heads are a much better broadhead for half the price.
That being said, a standard VPA 3 or 2 blade broadhead will kill anything on the North American continent, so I don't have a need for the new single bevel blades. Like Rayzor said, they were designed for dangerous game.
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From: Sapcut
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Date: 24-Apr-12 |
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roger, that's another good example of what I mean. If that poster had come with some really good quality tacks, it wouldn't keep falling so much.
BTW....per your request, has the autographed picture of my broadhead arrived yet? I did send it express..........:)
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From: Boomerang
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Date: 24-Apr-12 |
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Ya and who would pay $500 for a custom bow when a tree branch will do the same thing and who would pay $20,000 for a car when a horse and buggy will do the same thing.
Some of you guys crack me up!
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From: frogdipper
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Date: 24-Apr-12 |
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Don't assume everyone has some special ridiculously high priced product (optics, fishing reels, cars, etc.) that we just have to buy. A lot of people are very practical regarding pretty much everything they buy, and a lot of people can't afford to buy the designer version of anything.
And a tree branch won't do the same thing, and a horse and buggy won't do the same thing . . . but a $5 zwickey will.
No offense intended fellas, just my humble opinion. And if a $40 broadhead makes you happy and you've got the spare $40 burning a hole in your pocket, by all means indulge. Although some of us might not choose to do the same, it certainly cannot be compared to spending $1,000's that you can't afford on something you really don't need, but just have to have.
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From: Rayzor
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Date: 24-Apr-12 |
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We were and are very well aware there are many more of you who will not be purchasing these heads than those that will be. It ironic that your arguments are SIMILAR to one of the reasons we released this model. Just in a different price point range of broadheads. The target market for these heads are the hunters who are buying those other heads you would likely never purchase either. We simply felt we could make a better head and offer them at a lower retail price than the other heads in that market. I'd be happy if our COST was $35 per six. If so, I wouldn't be writing this.
I also have this strange feeling you will be reading about these heads taking an Asiatic Buffalo in the near future.
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From: jp
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Date: 24-Apr-12 |
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Vpa makes a great head and i think they're reasonable for the quality your receiving.
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From: jp
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Date: 24-Apr-12 |
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Vpa makes a great head and i think they're reasonable for the quality your receiving.
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From: Curtiss Cardinal
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Date: 24-Apr-12 |
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Ok my take on these First the weight, Shooting 60# and up these would make an excellent front loading broadhead. A front loaded perfectly tuned arrow penetrates better, period. Second the price The first rule of Capitolism is, "Charge ALL the Market will bare." My personally philosphy is why pay over a grand for a bow when there are bowyers out there that make bows that perform as well for much less, in some cases less than half. Take the money you saved and put it toward a hunt and pretty soon by buying what will work well, yet cost much less will get someone who saves the difference, literally well on their way to having the money for an exotic hunt or more time in the Bush persuing game. I personally think that you generally get what you pay for. My .22 rifle cost me about $200 BUT the scope on it cost a little over $300 and with optics more is definately better. I don't see the need for broadheads costing as much for one as 6 of many reputable heads. This will be the first year I hunt with Zwickeys.If I can figure out how to get them as sharp as I insist they be to hunt with.
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From: blue monday
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Date: 25-Apr-12 |
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If they are too expensive then don't buy them. Why do we have to beat a dead horse. Nice design! I will wait for the 150 grains to come out.
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From: Rick, IL
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Date: 22-Jun-12 |
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Looking at the pictures, it appears that the single bevel and the offset oppose each other. Do these rotate like a regular SB? Which direction?
I've been shooting the VPA 3-blades for a few years and find them a great head and worth the money. I also like the big Grizzlys and Zwickey Deltas.
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From: SdDiamondArcher
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Date: 11-Aug-22 |
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I’m currently looking to buy some VPA single bevel and came across this review from 2012. It’s hilarious to read through the responses about how expensive they are! I wish I could find a 3 pack for $50. Also, the responses about weight are funny. I guess Ed Ashby hasn’t been invented in 2012
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From: tzolk
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Date: 11-Aug-22 |
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I don’t see any pics! But why would anyone spend that much on broadheads or more than $130 on a bow? I mean we all shoot Samick Sage bows correct? Haha. This whole traditional archery sport we love is completely unnecessary to life, it’s a total luxury yet some nit pick within its nuances. I wonder if there are forums of people who gripe at what’s too much to spend on a radio for a Lamborghini. Please don’t stop! Lol!!!
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From: Buglmin
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Date: 11-Aug-22 |
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Be cause of the blades not being in the same plane the entire length of the broadhead, they are illegal to use in Colorado. And yes, officers are now checking equipment, looking for anything!!
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From: tecum-tha
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Date: 11-Aug-22 |
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I just bought two packages of the 3 blade VPAs for upcoming moose hunt. Was debating about getting 2 blade single bevels or these. I have plenty of original Wensel Woodsmen and they would do the trick as well. These heads are for this hunt and hopefully for the bear that follows. I can use my WW for practice. I always buy glue on to be able to use adapters or use them on woodies. Steel adapters can be modified to create any weight between 40 and 160 grains. That gives me heads between 200 and 320 grains. Current field points are 250grains. 27% FOC on a 660 grain Grizzlystik special sale shaft. I want good bloodtrails that's why I prefer the 3 blades. Always got good bloodtrails with these.
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