How many California Leatherwallers have we got on board.....I'm a prunepicker from Cupertino, near San Jose.............

There are a few of us on here.  I'm from Placerville, I think they have some pretty decent gatherings down south.

Mark

I'm in San Francisco. Near you, ventura.

Coalinga here, and havent heard the word prunepicker sence my grandpa passed away

well I'm from Norwalk,been living in Oklahome since 80. Does that count?

arrowhead whittler

I'm from North Mariposa County about 25 miles west of Yosemite, I grew up there, but I live in Idaho now.  If any want directions to anywhere in the D-6 unit get with me.  I know it pretty good.

Torrance Ca, just south of Los Angeles, Badger

Summit Valley, San Bernardino. And by the way there's another thread about a shoot in the Simi Valley, CA next weekend......luck

Bakersfield. Quite a few traditional archers in the area but I don't see to many on the LW. sodbusterjim

Lancaster, CA South of LA.

Lancaster, if I try to drive south to reach lancaster form LA I would have to drive all the way around the world, it's a shortcut if you head north LOL, ( funnin with ya) Steve

Hey Mark .... Willow Glen, San Jose. Hope to see you up at the Bowhunter Unlimited range soon.

Al

Quite a few trad clubs in my immediate area. I am from Lafayette, 15 miles east of S.F. across the bay and over the hills beyond Oakland. Good to hear from all.

Santa Paula, NW of Los Angeles.

Oliver Queen needs a lesson in map reading...... Lancaster is almos due north of L.A.

Hey Ventura66, what are you doing in Cupertino with a name like that?

I'm in Holtville 130 miles east of San Diego.

And in this corner, proudly representing the People's Republic of Berzerkaly- your's truly here. Yes, there's a few of us although I'm the only one on the Wall.

Dan, Haven't the city counselpersons(pc) passed new regs banning the possession of broadheads and possession of bows over 30lb? I also noted that the local archery shop was selling hemp strings and "real" leafy camo. Sorry, I just had to. Mark :)

I live about twelve miles west of BowBrain. And TJT, who sometimes monitors this site, lives two miles east of me, in El Centro.

I live in Del Mar (just north of San Diego). Wtpops, I just took a nice hog up your way in Priest Valley in December. Got the call yesterday that the sausage was done!

Ha ha! The last archery shop must have closed it's doors 20 years ago- and I was at the closing of the last gun shop on College Ave. about 13 years ago. You can get hemp strings (only good for smoking or new age pot holders) at the hippie open air crafts market on Telegraph Ave. on Sundays, and I actually got a real cool arm guard from a Goth leather 'n heavy metal accessories sales girl. I shoot my 70# Mamba and 67# HH Wesley down in the basement. Don't tell the local commies!

Yep, North it is! Wondered why I was always getting lost on the way home:)

Wow I had no idea there were so many fellow prunepickers........wow Bourbon King, you don't get cheated out of a Summer do you ??

I say,"Bring it on!".

Originally from Bay area now living above Chico, Ca in Magalia.

Good to know whose brain I can pick.

Talk to everyone soon,

Vic

 

 

Littlerock, in the Antelope Valley...NORTH of LA.

Hope some of you guys make it to the Conejo shoot.

Rhody,

My better half and I like to haunt the antique stores in Ventura occassionally. Ever eat at Andrea's down at the marina? Yum!!

I/m out just east of Pasadena and there's a large group of others also. Most of us will be at Conejo also. Look around at the bow building and you'll see many of us ther or close by

Ron Buehler

I'm outside of Redding in a small town called Millville. Not many trad guys around here, unfortunately. Lot's of wheel guys, though. Anyone out there close to Redding? Jim

Pine Grove - about 50 miles east of Sacramento. Work in Stockton. I haven't run into any trad guys up where I live - gets kinda lonely.

Visalia, between Bakersfield and Fresno.

Mountain View, CA. I belong to King's Mountain Archers club in Woodside, CA.

Santa Ana

Bjorn sending regards from Los Gatos.

40 miles east of temecula, between temecula and palm desert ... even here we're becoming inundated with people now ... we are going to look to texas, N.M. or possibly colorado or wyoming. (my wife is to inheirt 33 acres along the powder river)

Chico here. Hey from up north.

Hey all we might be onto something here, it would be great to announce on the board any future shoots in your neck of the woods...if you would care to see the club I belong to, type in Bowhunters Unlimited, and that should get you there to the hoary fringe of Cupertino........enjoy seeing other archery clubs websites, I guess they just recently shut down a real nice one down in Escondido.....ah yes the price of progress, stay in touch and stay dry............

Ontario,Ca.Belong to Oranco Bowmen.(oranco.org) Rendezvous 3-D shoot on the 12th of Feb. Got a real nice range but don't see too many sticks.

Ross, are you a stick bow shooter? maybe I will try and make that shoot. Steve

Clayton CA.    S.F. East Bay area, right at the foot of Mt. Diablo (home of the Diablo Bowmen).

Clearlake CA. Approx 120 miles NW of S.F. Middle of nowhere.

RIght in the heart of San Francisco.

I've been to most of the local clubs but usually shoot in Pacifica at the SF Archer's roving range. I've had a great time meeting a lot of fellow traditional shooters from all over the area.

Anyone up for a Lake Sonoma LW'er rendezvous?

Ursus here,

Yucaipa, CA; 70 miles east of Los Angeles, city that the angels have abandoned

Candlemaker, I hunted the outer spur of Lake Somona 2 weeks ago.  Real pretty country.  I'd go back in a heart beat....

Santa Maria, about 65 miles north of Santa Barbara and spittin distance from the Chamberlin Ranch.

- Vic

Santa Cruz has an archery range nestled in the redwoods and oaks of Delaveaga Park.  It's a great place to loose arrows and lose the busy-ness of everyday life.  Santa Cruz is where I shoot and where I am from.  I've had the pleasure of shooting at many of the ranges in California and can say that we are all blessed with a place to shoot our bows and arrows.

Cheers!

Wow what an honor to have Larry Yien on board........You do have a very nice range down there in Santa Cruz, nice place to shoot when it heats up on the other side of the hill.............

My home club is Bear State Bowhunters in Escondido, and it is alive and well. If you are ever down in the area give me a call and we can shoot it. The club keeps 28 3D targets out full time for members and their guests to shoot.

Maury

Wow Maury that is good news, I had the understanding that they were being shut down....part of an eminent domain thing by the politicians......well thats good to hear.................

ttt

Vacaville ca.

We have two 14 target field courses and a practice range here in Davis. I'm there most weekday evenings of the year, and most Saturday afternoons. Sundays usually find me elsewhere at an organized event, especially the all-tradional ones. Check the cbhsaa.org schedule and 'roads to ranges' link for a list of them and directions. Our Yolo Bowmen's annual field archery tournament is coming up in March.

Sacramento area, shoot at Maya.

ttt

Ross,

You don't see many trad shooters because your course in not trad friendly!! I've got trohies from Oranco from my compound shooting, but dang...SO many 50-60+ yd shots isn't for guys shooting stick and string. Put together a real trad. only shoot like Malibu does and it will catch on.

how many fellow prunepickers have been to the Chamberlin Ranch shoot ????? I have heard it is one of the most enjoyable shoots in the state.................

I held a Leatherwall Rendevouse on Mt. Pinos at McGill Camp ground some years past. We had a great time. I'd like to try and pull it off again.

We had the primitive archery and alatal guys there. I brought up a 3d Deer. We pooled our food and ate like kings.

Ususally late April or May when the campgound opens.

We from far west NV, welcome you all over this way. When I was stationed in CA, I shot most of the SoCal ranges-Oranco, cherry Valley, and the others closer to SanDdiego. Anyone remember Roman Gray who had a shop in San Diego, or Rube Powell? I think There still is a shop up by MiraMar, but the guy who owns it is a jerk. El toro is apparently gone now. Pendleton had a great range with 3d targets available on side and bales on the other. Year around shooting down in SoCal-it was nice. I shot the range in Balboa last year and was amazed at how much was gone now. Ahh progress....?

Rancho Cordova, just east of Sacramento. I shoot at El Dorado Hills Bowmen.

Hey Rhody where abouts is Mt. Pinos located ??????? that sounds like an interesting outing..............

The Chamberlain Ranch shoot is a great shoot and keeps getting better every year. This year it will be on April 1-2, 2006. Check out the Traditional Bowhunters of California website at:www.tbcarchery.com

45 miles south of Bakersfield on I5, get off on Mt. Pinos Way/Frazier Park off ramp, about 16-18 miles to McGill Camp ground. It's at 7000'+ elevation.

Darn Rhody, 7000' elevation, well I might consider wearing my flannel thong..........

Ted here from Diablo Bowmen, been a closet LW'er for years.

welcome aboard Ted...............

Thanks Mark

Any of you fellow prunepickers ever hunted the Tehachapis, down South ?????? I guess old Howard Hill loved to hunt this area...

I used to hunt in the tehachapis, mainly bird hunting. There were a lot of deer up there. Lots of bobcats and coyotes also,

Lot's of Hog's in Tehachapis on private land!Most of the good hunting is on the Tejon ranch.The other was called the Cummings ranch,which I understand is now all archery an run by an outfit like wielderness outfitters or something like that.They say that the deer are in good shape with some bucks running up to 150 +.I have not hunted it in years,but there are some big hogs in that country I have taken a few.Hope to see some of you at Conejo! Ah EL Toro! I have not shot in quite a spell Except for the Bobby Bass Shoot at Malibu.Sounds like ET has not changed.Yes the shots are long but I have had some great fun in years past at that range.Just shoot an have fun!Is that alligator still under the Tree stand in a ah kinda of a swamp? TB

Ten Bears....is the Tejon Ranch fenced ???? is the wildlife free to move about or is it a high fence setup like the ranches in Texas ?????

You got money, then hunt Tejon. It is a huge spread.

Barb wire only.It is a big ranch.Free ranging.They have a yearly pass that cost 2000.You can take one buck a hog or two all the dove an Quail in season.And varmits.They have some huge Elk but the tag is 10000+.They also have a small lake with some good Bass an pan fish.It's not a bad deal if you live close.I doen't have the time to make it worth the money.C-YA

well I don't have money or time, so I guess I won't be hunting Tejon............

hey stickbow1, i knew rube powell very well and yes the shope is still at mira mar and yes the same owner.

roman left san diego years ago and went to alaska.

the only 'trad' friendly shop in the area is near maury, willow creek archery in escondido. bill cropp sold the bow 'n' arrow shop long ago and retired.

steve white passed on a few years ago, too ... he was found deceased in his apt.

Don, you must have known Ken and Mary Hobbs. He shot a lot of the ranges in the 80's with Robertson longbows. I know he died and I saw Mary once at NALS and then I heard she had died too. I still have a multifletcher sold to me from Rube's shop. Turtle aRchers. wasn' it? Robin Hood and King Arthur shoots, Anzacs shoots at Balboa. The high times of archery in SanDiego. I wouldn't have kind things to say about Bob F, so I'll refrain. Sure there are many there who know the story. Any Bear staters left out that way?

Who will be at Chamberlin this year???

I'm gonna meet up with a bunch from around Santa Cruz at Chamberlin.

I'm in O.C.

I'm in Redding. Northern Ca. is great!

Simi Valley here.

I hunt just north of SP.

Rhody, you ever eat at Yannie's in Fillmore?

It's my favorite stop on my way home.

SF

Living in the great metropolis of Lake City, Calif. pop. 100 It is in the extreme north east corner of the state. About 35 miles north east of Alturas. Used to live in the San Fernando valley, and my wife and I shot at Malibu, Pasadena, Canjo, Verdugo, Valley West, as well as Escondido, Balbo, and Fresno. Not to many shoots up this way. We joined Lake View Bowmen in Oregon, about 45 minutes from our place. Anyone up this way, drop me a line.....Ray

Santa Barbara here, hey sounds like I will meet some of my fellow wallers at Chamberlain. Kurt Bellefeuille

santa cruz

I'm from Santa Clarita, just outside of Los Angles.

Durham, CA. just south of Chico, CA.

Susanville Ca, here up north from most of you, there isnt anyone I know of shooting trad here.

I'll be at Chamberlin for sure, along with Big Wind (Ron Lockman) and GeneJockey (Doug Smith). Look for the best copper fire pit along the creek. That'll be us.

- Vic

Maury Chamberlain is not on April 1st and 2nd, its the 12th and 13th this year. K Bel5

Tracy Ca, right in the middle of the whole mess.

Perris ca, south of moreno valley, Wish had joined leatherwall sooner so i could have seen the notice for chamberlain. Sounds fun

"Wish had joined leatherwall sooner so i could have seen the notice for chamberlain. Sounds fun"

It's April 12-13. Theres still time.

Anyone going to Petaluma?

Pretty sure I'm gonna make the drive up.

That would be for the Western States Traditional Rendezvous near Petaluma, north of San Francisco. And yes, I will be there. - lbg

Paul from Rancho Cordova here. Yeah, I'll be at WSTR - I usually go to the rendezvous in Sept at Petaluma and it's always a great shoot.

Elk Grove, where planning and growth never fit in the same sentence. I'm 15 miles south of Sacramento, aka, Arnoldland.

Beale AFB here...home of the smartest turkeys in the world.

A leatherwall get together would be great....even better if it was a hog hunt!....a free one! Can't see spending all that cash to chase oinkers.

See everyone at the WSTR.....jon

There's a shoot in Buelton this weekend, the Santa Ynez bow club is putting on, dinosaur 3d and paper. I've never shot there,was planning on just my boy and I,but both my daughters want to go to Yeee Hah!! been waiting for this,then 2 buddies called and want to borrows some bows and give recurves a whirl,when it rains it pours. Kurt

we hunt and camp in Cima area each summer(jacks/ yotes). If you're counting RVers who spend time in CA, we're in.

Susanville ca, here up north of most of you.

Vacaville - former home of the onion smell and the "real" Nut Tree. I usually shoot in my backyard, but can occasionally be found at the range in Lagoon Valley Park. Glad to see there are more stickbow shooters than I thought in the Golden State. Dan

TTT

Dana Point CA. The local clubs and ranges are gone so not easy to congregate. Chamberlain is on this year and I plan to attend.

citrus heights about 20mi east of Sacramento

Weaverville...one hour west of redding.

Mendocino County, out in the hills between Ukiah & Comptche. Got everything from rabbits to bear right here on the ranch.

Well I guess I am the only one from San Diego, wish I could make some of those shoots, too far and unemployed.

No motorhead you are not the only one. There are a more than a few of us. Some of us belong to Bearstate. This lousy recession has made everyone tighten their belts. Our trad shoot had less than expected shooters. Of course the rain and cold did not help either. In 2010 the shoot is to be in Oct. hot but dry.

South Sacramento County, willing to travel and help defer expenses of others for hunting opportunities.

From ground squirrels up lol

from Victorville, on the way to Las Vegas

Grew up in Modesto, lived in Lodi 35 years. One of the founding fathers of the "Lodi Bowmen". Now live in Big Sky country, wonderful Montana. Bob

Simi Valley, Ventura county

humbolt co. the hunting is ok up here but you have to hike aways to lose the quad hunters

Tres Pinos,50 miles South of San Jose.Close to some of the best Hog hunting around.

Castro Valley Ca, / San Francisco Bay Area. Where is the Chamberlain Shoot?

Torrance, Ca, about 15 mi south of Los Angeles. Steve

Fresno, CA

Simi Valley, CA - since 1970.

TTT

I'm in the High Desert, Apple valley to be exact. Only about 45 min drive to all the surrounding mountains.

Turlock. have properties in mariposa and sheep ranch(lease).

cottonwood,south of redding.just a short drive to mnts. or lakes & theres always the sacremento

Crescent City was always home until the state began spending more money than they could squeeze out of the golden goose. retreated to southern Oregon 10 years ago. Still love that salt air though.

Sacramento, CA.

Whoooop Whoooop!

San Diego here!!

I dare say there are a few more now.

Born and raised in the Bay Area, lived there all my life until 7 months ago, now in Boston, miss my home state every day!

I was the third poster in 2006. Still here in San Francisco! Marco

San Francisco, long time member of San Francisco Archers in Pacifica.

Elk Grove, south of Sacramento.

I'm still here, Berzerkely is still Berserk. The 70# Mamba and the 68# H.H. Wesley are gone, though. Replaced with nice, light user-friendly old Kodiaks, Polars, & Alaskans.

Mark- you're on a serious dredging operation! Very interesting, brings back memories.

im about an hour north of Sac anything south of Colusa County is So-Cal To me

HAHA..

Most of us from real northern Ca,always said at about the bend of the state,but we would accept some of those counties south of that on the eastern side.They still poses a northern attitude.

Also from Durham, CA. Just south of Chico.

Pasadena , member of Pasadena Roving Archers, the oldest continuous archery site in the USA ! 82 years and still up and running ! Great archery site in the historic Arroyo Seco below the Rose Bowl.

Santa Rosa 50 miles from frisco 50 years behind the times.

Thats where I learned archery, San Francisco Archers. Spent half my life there but alas, I departed the great state almost 7 years ago for greener lands...

Still miss shooting with great friends there in California.

San Diego Archers!!!!! Sadly, it looks like they are going to destroy our over 75 year old Rube Powell Memorial Archery Range in favor of a road leading to a parking structure.

Howdy Mark. It is public opinion that is in favor of the construction. Our UT paper here has published the intentions. This is not a new initiative, it has been revived. The wishes are that there be no cars in the park. jaz5833 knows about it too as we are both in San Diego Archers. I'm afraid that "the people" will be given what they want. More to follow later as things unfold.

Howdy Mark. It is public opinion that is in favor of the construction. Our UT paper here has published the intentions. This is not a new initiative, it has been revived. The wishes are that there be no cars in the park. jaz5833 knows about it too as we are both in San Diego Archers. I'm afraid that "the people" will be given what they want. More to follow later as things unfold.

Right through the range. It's a done deal.

Im here in Lancaster. Getting ready for the hybrid deer season

This isn't all about me. This is a PUBLIC archery range. And, the dirt dug out for the parking structure will be dumped at Morley Field ,the flat range that we use for 900 rounds including California State,on the other side of the park. I know that Wounded Warriors were using that field on Mondays. Meeting Monday and will know more. archerylivesmatter.

I pay property taxes on a house in Valley Springs in Calavaras County. But due to work I live out of a 5th Wheel. Right now I'm in San Juan Buatista just off of 101 at a RV park.

motherlode,

Spent a bit of time and money in Daises,years ago.

Always liked SJB.Always somethin fun going on there.

What is it happened to my old friend King wouldbe?

Yeah, still in this god forsaken $#ithole of a state, LOL. Santa Rosa CA to be exact, but only for another three years or so.

Where in Santa Rosa ? I live in rincon valley maybe shoot with ya sometime

Geez...didn't see the replies and inquiries...

Mark, northern Nevada/southern Idaho. Have family in those parts and I spend quite a bit of time up there.

Rich, not far from you. Los Alamos Rd near Spring Lake.

when you finally leave California in your rearview mirror........you will never regret it that's for sure.

I wouldn't live anywhere else after being here since 1984. There are drawbacks, but EVERY place drawbacks.

In 30 minutes or less, I can access 3 bow shops, 5 archery ranges, the Pacific Ocean, 10 lakes, 3 gun ranges, and more than 200 craft breweries :-)

In 3 hours or less I can access nearly year round snow skiing, the Algodones Dunes and Sonoran Desert, the Colorado River recreation areas and an untold number entertainment activities.

In 8 hours or less I can be in the CA Redwoods (Something everyone should do once) or Las Vegas, and world class hunting of nearly every US species

AND THE MOST IMPORTANT OF ALL!! Tube tops and bikinis in January!!

As I sit here in the Colorado winter mountains, I yearn for the good times and climate I had while stationed in Petaluma, California. I was there from 95-2004. Mountain biking today in 70 degree weather, snowboarding tomorrow in 30 degree weather 3 hours away. Pretty girls everywhere, everyday. Yeah, the politics suck, and it will cost you to live there, but it isn't all that bad. And excellent food. I know of only one burrito place here that even comes close to Cali.

Unfortunately it seems enough of Kalifornia followed me to what is now Kolorado.

Ca,is essentially 2 different states,when it comes to politics and attitude.If Ca wants to separate,they should do it from Sac south,on the western side of the sierras.The area i grew up in,had more in common with Northern Nv and south eastern Or,than it did with Ca anyway.

Reno and Vegas turn to be half californios on weekends! This weekend will see a mass migration this direction for super bowl casino options. The golden state ain't what it used to be. In 1967 I was stationed in Long Beach and the highways were beautiful and Archery was everywhere. I feel sorry for old timers as it seems they were left out when citified folks took over. Agree with traxx. Iktomi knows he is welcome here

Be good to see Iktomi in Northern Nevada, though Skip and Todd may agree that the Reno area is getting heavily Kalifornicated lately...;-/ at least that is what the voters are showing.

Jim..... I tell people,i live in Reno Ca.When they say,i thought Reno was in Nevada,I tell em it used to be.Washoe and Clark county are just Ca suburbs anymore.

California can secede, but it won't the State Of Jefferson with it.

I'm a Military brat. I've lives in 7 different states, one foreign country, went to 12 different schools before getting out of High School, and I have to say that living in San Francisco, with all that is available to me within just a few hours drive plus the diversity of people, make this the best place I have ever lived. Plus the food ain't bad either.

"just a few hours drive" from San Francisco, LOL. Often times a few hours does not get you very far from the bay area, or even from just across the GGB, Marin and Sanoma county. The 101 a parking lot, I80 a parking lot. The one thing I do not miss about Cali is having to plan everything around traffic.

Portola Valley, in the hills of the SF Peninsula. Depending on time of day, between 35 minutes and three hours from downtown SF.

Hermosa Beach. Yes, I am fortunate to live at the beach. Our archery range is on a hillside overlooking the ocean and Catalina Island in the distance.

I also used to shoot at Pasadena Roving Archers -- a great range with a lot of history.

Mission Viejo, South Orange County

...Ventura, CA. here...

Born in Santa Monica. Now live just east of Pasadena.

Each and every one of you should pack up and move. I'd be to ashamed to admit I lived there.

Banned small engines....lol....the homeless fire pit smoke puts weedeaters to shame.

We're hearing on the news outlets that a lot of wealthy people are leaving because of the high taxes. Won't this hurt the economy there?

I'm here in Porter Ranch, Ca (Northwest San Fernando Valley) Grew up hunting in the hills; rabbit, quail and varmints-- via the grace of God and a Bear Super Kodiak. It's become very crowded and extremely expensive. But, then again, I used to live in Westlake Village at the very edge of La/Ventura County and... that's become the territory of major film stars and billionaires. I shoot with Pasadena Roving Archers - and have for many years - and they are an outstanding group of people... Shoot Straight, rare breed

I was tricked into moving to CA from NV a while back (doubled my salary). I found out the hard way it wasn't worth it but now I deal with it. I'm in the Tehachapi area and if I have to be in CA I'm really glad it is here other than many other places near work (110 miles/day round trip). Sadly, the big city people found Tehachapi and now the "bad manners/drivers" are moving in and new houses are popping up everywhere.

I wish there was an archery club closer than a couple hours drive. But I can at least shoot up to 30+ yards in my yard and have enough National Forest or BLM desert to roam nearby for stump shooting (not too many stumps in the desert though).

And yes Vikingbear, the Californians that can are running to all the adjacent Western states (including as far as Texas) and likely most are taking their morals and ideas with them. It's probably the same on the East coast as well with people running from the high tax areas.

Simple Man, I noticed it as an ignorant 20 year old decades ago growing up in upstate NY. The BS that starts in CA seems to roll across the country to meet up with the BS that comes out of NYC/Albany and heads West. Sorry to say it, but with the fact of the migration in progress and the banning of internal combustion engines in CA, you may want to be aware that it'll be in your backyard before you know it.

San Diego

I wouldn't live anywhere else. If you want it, you can find it in California. Despite what the naysayers claim, I've got multiple safes full of guns and ammo, an archery range in my back yard, multiple clubs in my county, and any climate I wish within an easy drive. Not to mention the world's best looking women. BTW, I grew up in the Blue Ridge Mountains. Lived for a while in Ohio and have spent time in all 50 states.

Tehachapi,CA here

I lived out in the desert in Blythe,CA for 32 years. They have a great bow club there,The Blythe Bowmen. Plus one could drive down to Yuma,AZ and shoot with the Yuma archers. I am retired now and current live in Tehachapi. Don't forget, a whole lot of archery innovations came from California.

I live in Northeast California 50 miles north of Reno NV great place to live a lot of BLM and National forest land out my door.

'Man' and his politics aside, without the slightest doubt, IMO CA is the most physically beautiful state in the union when it comes to variety of terrain and climate. Full on desert to temperate rainforest, ocean to desert to cropland to sun burnished savannah, flat to mountainous, all the climatic zones and temperatures, take your pick, it is there somewhere in CA. CA is absolutely drop dead beautiful.

Looks like a couple of us are from Tehachapi.

I do agree with all Mr. Bob Rowlands said, the wide range of geographical and natural beauty is all there. One can be skiing in the morning and strolling barefoot on a beach for sunset, while easily doing some stump shooting on the way.

Jazz5833, From the times of my more youthful Navy days in San Diego up to today I cannot disagree (for some reason my beach loving GF recently told me she didn't like walking on the beach while in SD). The minor downside for me is driving through 10 million people to get there and then being amongst another 1.5ish million once there.

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