From: tonto59
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Date: 27-Aug-17 |
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Which 10 in your opinion are the hardest to come across? That you find come up for sale on used bow sites, yard sales, ext.
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From: Buzz
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Date: 27-Aug-17 |
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Lefty, Presentation I.
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From: George D. Stout
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Date: 27-Aug-17 |
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Wilson White bows, Dick Green, Smithwick-Jennings, Brahma Bows, Sanders, Tri-State, U.S. Archery, Graham recurves, Carroll's, Neco Telum.
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From: Kodiak
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Date: 27-Aug-17 |
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1956 60" Kodiak Special 50# @ 26". Would be 55#ish at my draw.
Scarce as hens teeth.
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From: kstout
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Date: 27-Aug-17 |
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Root longbows. I see the recurves once in a while, but the longbows seldom come up.
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From: crookedstix
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Date: 27-Aug-17 |
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Some of the rarest were never that plentiful, even back in their day--like the George Birnie bows, for instance. Then there are some models that may be out there in decent numbers, but just try talking their owners into selling them--like a Kodiak DeLuxe in good shape, or a butcher-block Root Game Master, Bob Lee Thunderbolt, or Bob Savage DeathMaster. They might come up once in a while, but if you plan on acquiring one you'd better be ready to spend some money. I suppose the 1967-1969 Super Kodiaks are creeping into that high-priced neighborhood as well.
Thankfully, every once in a while there's that odd lawn sale or pawn shop or Craigslist ad that connects you with a real hidden gem...ah, the thrill of the chase!
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From: Renewed Archer
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Date: 27-Aug-17 |
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The one I'm looking for, unless I ask if anyone has one.
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From: Kent Alan
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Date: 27-Aug-17 |
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Martin Saber (the original 62" one piece, not the newer takeedown)
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From: fdp
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Date: 27-Aug-17 |
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Don Brown Cobra.
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From: littlekodiak
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Date: 27-Aug-17 |
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jack howard supreme target bow.
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From: littlekodiak
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Date: 27-Aug-17 |
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Bear first Year Takedown Wood A Handle Left Handed. Anybody got one for sale or trade??? PM ME THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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From: Knifeguy
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Date: 27-Aug-17 |
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Herter's 46" models, Indian Stalker 48". 1961 Bear Camo Grizzly, Pearson Palamino above 45#, Carrolls, and a few more. Lance.
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From: Lucas
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Date: 27-Aug-17 |
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Tecumseh by Indian
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From: Sawtooth (Original)
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Date: 27-Aug-17 |
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ANY bow that Frisky uses to actually kill a deer with.
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From: Rocky
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Date: 27-Aug-17 |
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Bruno, Pierson and sons.
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From: Joey Ward
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Date: 27-Aug-17 |
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Tice and Watts recurves.
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From: MStyles
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Date: 27-Aug-17 |
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Basically the ones I'm thinking of have been covered in the above posts.
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From: Frisky
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Date: 27-Aug-17 |
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There's one that was made by a major producer but is very rare. Possibly the finest bow of all. I'm keeping quiet and watching for it.
Joe
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From: del of logan
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Date: 27-Aug-17 |
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How about Martin Super Diablo in lighter draw weights. They don't come up often.
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From: crowfoot
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Date: 27-Aug-17 |
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Just saw a Pearson pony and cougar on CL
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From: 6.5Swede
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Date: 27-Aug-17 |
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Asbell era Bighorn one-piece recurves. I want one!
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From: Hookedspur
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Date: 27-Aug-17 |
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My buddy picked up a beautiful horn nocked Doug Easton longbow probably from the 30's
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From: Wolfman
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Date: 27-Aug-17 |
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Jack Howard gamemaster, Jerry Pierce Choctaw, Browning Challenge, Bob Lee Thunderbolt.
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From: Shick
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Date: 27-Aug-17 |
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I'd like to find a Predator one piece that I bought in '92. Shick
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From: JamesV
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Date: 27-Aug-17 |
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Black Mtn. Sheepeater
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From: tonto59
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Date: 27-Aug-17 |
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I'd like to add The Ben Pearson Mercury Marauder T/D and maybe the Browning Back Backer.
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From: WillMac
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Date: 27-Aug-17 |
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Not sure if techicall Martin or Damon Howatt but the one piece Nighthawk is one I have looked for for a long time, in a draw weight I can use.
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From: arlone
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Date: 28-Aug-17 |
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Stan Meyer from Montevideo Minnesota made a bow called the "Ram Hunter" I believe? I have not seen one in the used market. Always thought it would be nice to have one being from Minnesota.
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From: Dan W
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Date: 28-Aug-17 |
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A guy out of Traverse city, forget his name (George help me out here!) early - mid fifties built almost Asiatic looking recurves with woven fiberglass backs, and white plastic bellies. Best bow I ever owned, beginning of the draw felt like it was going to over 60 bs. but only went 54, what a force draw curve. Delamned & died years ago. Bows had names like the "Sphinx" and such like.
1955 Kodiak, seems like I can get/find all the 54s and 56s that I want, but no 55s, although I did score one and am very happy about that. Also LH Kodiak special at 64" - 66", 45 to 50lbs. draw wt. would be appreciated.
Pearson Pony? I picked up 2 off of EBay in one week, 2 weeks after I was turned on to them. What wonderful little "sleeper" of a bow. Great performer for what it is, a sweet little pleasure. Great for my intermediate students, (and me too).
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From: Bowlim
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Date: 28-Aug-17 |
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Nobody knows, but many of us have a search on for bows we can't find. The Black Widow Target Anniversary model was on my list for years. The TD Mercury Hunter has been on my list for years. The only one I found that I wanted was a lefty. It was incredibly fancy with all kinds of different diamondwood colours in it, Made for a special distributor, who judging by the heads in his shop was quite a successful hunter.
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From: hawkwing
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Date: 28-Aug-17 |
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62" Bob Lee-Red Wing Hunter from early sixties. 62" Wing Vantage Pro-Slimline recurve. Earl Hoyt 62" one piece Sky Eagle recurve. Favorite though, are pre- Head ski Red Wing Hunters. They seem to show up once in awhile if you stay vigilant.
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From: Bigbear
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Date: 28-Aug-17 |
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There are two I always look for: Pearson Ambusher - made for only two years (from what I am told) and an original Kiko Tovar KT44 (I know Jon T. is making the replica, but would love an original).
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From: Brad Lehmann
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Date: 28-Aug-17 |
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1959 Kodiak 56" maple sight window
1963 Kodiak Special
I need a 63 and a 66 to finsih my collection. I am sure that once I find them and overpay, they will be coming out of the wood work.
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From: Bill C
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Date: 28-Aug-17 |
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Dan W: Think you just described a Bruno bow. He had a shop in Coney Island and a shooting booth on the boardwalk. Dad got me my first real bow from him on my eighth birthday...a 20# lemonwood longbow.
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From: Zepnut
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Date: 28-Aug-17 |
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Agree with Brad on the 59 Kodiak 56" MSW.....scarce
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From: tonto59
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Date: 28-Aug-17 |
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I really wanted a Ben Pearson Bushmaster. From all I read on here about them and pictures that guys posted of them on here. A really well designed off set grip unique T/D. That draws and shoots really nice. So I went on the search. Every nite for 3 years I checked all the used bow sites. While on my search I picked up a Ben Pearson T/D long bow. And my Birth year bow a "59" Kodiak Special. Then finally I spotted a 1958 Ben Pearson Bushmaster on Raptor Archery. I didn't hesitate. I pulled the trigger! dropped the Hammer! Yup I paid full price. And am really pleased that I did. Its one of my best finds ever. A real piece of Archery history. " If only that bow could talk. Maybe Ben Pearson himself touched that very bow! It was his favorite for hunting you know! Keep looking and you will find that treasure you are searching for. And looking is a big part of the fun. Good luck to all of you on your search for that special vintage classic. Hope you find the one your looking for. Shoot straight and good luck hunting everyone Don Lewis "tonto59"
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From: Jon Stewart
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Date: 28-Aug-17 |
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Dan: the Sphinx you describe sounds like a Jim Hodek bow. He made bows in the 50's and lived in Travese City.
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From: Bowmania
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Date: 28-Aug-17 |
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Bear Signature. Last one I saw went for 13,000 bucks.
Bowmania
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From: pondscum2
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Date: 28-Aug-17 |
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pre-coin 1959 Kodiak. i have seen exactly one...and it was BEAUTIFUL!
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From: Patrick
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Date: 28-Aug-17 |
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Hoyt pro hunter special. I have a 58"er that is a bit too light at 35# and a bit short for 30" draw length but still shoots better than most recurves I've tried!
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From: Kent Alan
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Date: 28-Aug-17 |
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Martin Lynx and Martin Warthog (recurve versions, not compound)
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From: Zepnut
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Date: 28-Aug-17 |
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Also Type I and Type II 1963 Kodiak Mag
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From: mangonboat
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Date: 28-Aug-17 |
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I keep an eye out for unusual birds. Judging by how often Ive seen one offered on the classifieds/for sale/trade threads on the trad sites, craigslist and ebay, the ones that impress me as rare examples of production bows from known manufacturers, as opposed to one-offs, factory customs , folks who only made a handful of bows in their garage: type ll 1963 K mag; Gordon Plastics Royal Custom(never seen one, not even a photo), Jack Howard Supreme. Browning Diana. There have been some notable one-offs, e.g. the Drake with horns, 1959 Bear Kodiak EXP, Ben Pearson custom-mades from their Sovereign shop and "Cobra"-labelled bows, as well as some spectacular bows from every manufacturer made with unique pieces of wood. I recused myself from listing the Browning Diana, as I finally found one of those.
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From: Dan W
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Date: 28-Aug-17 |
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Jon! THANK YOU- Jim Hodek, that's the bowyer. I am not currently searching for his bows these days, but if I ever see another one I guarantee that triggers will be pulled.
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From: JusPassin
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Date: 28-Aug-17 |
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Had a Saxon Mongoose once years ago. Just such a top notch shooter. Wish I could find another.
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From: Lowcountry
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Date: 28-Aug-17 |
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Phil Grable broom handle Hunter model
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From: Kent Alan
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Date: 28-Aug-17 |
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JusPassin: "Had a Saxon Mongoose once years ago. Just such a top notch shooter. Wish I could find another."
You know, JusPassin, with Randy Dehnel's death, seems like all Saxons are becoming difficult to find. Had Randy make me 2 American Traditionals and a Selkirk years ago, but it seems like I never see tham anywhere nowadays...
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From: bearbowjunky
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Date: 28-Aug-17 |
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Kodiak's in the 56" A.M.O. length are on the hard side to find
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From: MStyles
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Date: 28-Aug-17 |
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For years I lusted after a Ben Pearson Mercury Marauder T/D in 60+ lb. I found a couple but was outbid, and they sold for very high prices. I finally scored a BP Mercury Hunter in 60#, but I kind of lost interest in shooting it. After owning a three Saukl's, I realized I didn't want to drag a large, wood risered bow through the woods. This year I discovered I like shooting the mid 50's Bear semi-recurve, that is more longbow than recurve. A real eye-opener for me. That is why I like this hobby so much, you just never know what vintage bow you're going to discover next, and there are a slew of them out there. I looked on Craigslist this am, and there are 2 BP's for sale, one owner, 40# Pony & a 35# Puma. Both in ok shape.
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From: Babbling Bob
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Date: 28-Aug-17 |
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I agree with the 56-inch 1959 Kodiaks, especially with the maple sight window as stated.
Did see a 35-lb'er 56-inch Kodiak a few back on the auction block with a purpleheart riser insert. That would be good to see again whenever my pocket book is full.
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From: Fisher Cat
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Date: 28-Aug-17 |
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Original Rocky Mountain Recurves. Their shorter ones are what they were known for and it's tough to find one in a reasonable draw weight. Note: They are what's called "smooth drawing" today and feel about five pounds lighter than their actual draw weight, so if you find one that's just a little too heavy, it might actually be "just right." - John
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From: aromakr
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Date: 28-Aug-17 |
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This is a little bit off subject as it has to do with a longbow. In 1941 Howard Hill was under contract with Ben Pearson, in that years catalog a Howard Hill bow is listed, made under the Hill contract, by Pearson. I don't even know if any were made because of the war, but I would sure love to find one if they were made!!!!!!
Bob
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From: Tradmike
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Date: 28-Aug-17 |
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Rice and Watts leftie
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From: JFH
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Date: 28-Aug-17 |
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Only two Im looking for is a JH gamemaster jet #55ish or a Wing thunderbird 62" #55ish....... No interest in any of the rest......
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From: Homey88
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Date: 28-Aug-17 |
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62 inch dogleg grizzly
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From: Renewed Archer
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Date: 29-Aug-17 |
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This is a good thread. There are bows mentioned here I never heard of. Not that means much, though.
I forgot to mention the ones I'm looking for. Very light Bear models from 59 to 62. Kodiak, KS, KD, KSD... 25 to low 30#s, 64" to 66". Anyone seen one looking for a new home?
I have a 56" 59 Kodiak. I got it partly b/c I had heard how rare they are. Perhaps it's a self-fulfilling description. The ones that are considered rare get bought up quickly and are not sold, b/c they are rare. Which makes them more rare.
I think any high end bow in a very low weight is rare, unless perhaps it's a very long tournament bow.
Sanders bows are rare. I've seen two for sale. I have one of them. One is up now on the auction site.
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From: Jon Stewart
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Date: 29-Aug-17 |
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Homey88: I picked up a 62" Dogleg Grizzly last year. It is a 35#er and darn near mint condition. Paid $100.00 for it. Easy bow to shoot at that weight.
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From: Fuzzy
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Date: 29-Aug-17 |
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red Wing hunter lefty in 55#
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From: Calgroundgame
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Date: 29-Aug-17 |
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its not vintage BUT
Kodiak Supreme Takedown Recurve made in 2007-2008 I've looking to buy one for about 5 years now
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From: Shoe
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Date: 29-Aug-17 |
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X2 on Kodiak Supreme Takedown. Also Kodiak Deluxe in original condition free of any defects, and 59 MSW Kodiak.
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From: Babbling Bob
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Date: 29-Aug-17 |
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Would like to find another 63-inch '62 Kodiak Special in a draw weight that suits me. Have one, but need another. Passed on one a few back which was too light a draw weight to get taken off the rack and used. Should be one show up someday.
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From: Flygirl
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Date: 29-Aug-17 |
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Original Paul Schafer with camo limbs..Greatest bow ever..
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From: Flygirl
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Date: 29-Aug-17 |
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Original Paul Schafer with camo limbs..Greatest bow ever..
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From: Pdiddly
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Date: 30-Aug-17 |
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Rare birds?
There are many.
I feel lucky as I have some of those listed like a Jack Howard Gamemaster, Howatt Saber, Hoyt Pro Hunter, Dick Green and a Sanders Sportster. They were all worth the wait.
Others not mentioned that I have are Don Adams Thunderbird clone, Na-Po, Tice and Watts Spartan Hunter, WestBow Special Hunter and Jupiter, a Dana and one I don't, a 56" Groves Spitfire.
Here's some of those mentioned...
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From: Pdiddly
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Date: 30-Aug-17 |
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Oh...forgot the Butcher Block Gamemaster and the 1959 Palomino.
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From: Milk River Stickman
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Date: 16-Dec-17 |
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Good Gracious, what a thread. Sell the kids honey, we have some bows to look for!
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From: Milk River Stickman
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Date: 16-Dec-17 |
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Not vintage, but probably getting close: 62" Deadeye TD recurve. 61#@29ish. Amazing bow. Just show info on it and I'll be impressed. Anyone? Whoever built it knew what they were doing. Phenom.
Original Robertson Peregrines are becoming difficult to find.
How about 56" 1957 Bear Kodiaks?
Explorer II's in higher weights are getting harder to find also. Not rare yet, I suppose.
How about 1989ish 58" Robertson Prairie Falcons...
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From: Dan W
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Date: 16-Dec-17 |
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Great timing, bringing this thread back up. I know whose bows I would like to find:
1. Jim Hodak, Traverse City. "Sphinx" is the only model name that I remember. He built the best recurve that I have ever had. Delamed & gone for years now. Kind of a "Cupid" or Asiatic style set of curves. Very high early draw wt, and smoooth draw. Better than a Saluki.
2. Conolon Missilelite- I was gifted with this one from my pal Michael Lang who has retired from archery. Incredible bow! Semi-recurve, reverse handle. I would love to find a lefty. Or better still, a dual shelf IF that was ever made.
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From: Frisky
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Date: 16-Dec-17 |
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On December 15th, 2003, I purchased a 54 pound Savage Deathmaster. I've determined a Deathmaster under 60 pounds is the rarest recurve out there! A few years ago, Bob Savage's daughter found a 50 pounder at a garage sale. Bob's own daughter had to find one at a garage sale to get one! This Friday, 14 years later, to the day, I agreed to give my bow back to the original owner. My Bow of Bows will be gone. However, the son of the new owner agreed to give me a new Bow of Bows! The Super Bow of Bows! Wait until you see this baby!
Joe
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From: The Lost Mohican
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Date: 16-Dec-17 |
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Ahh the horror stories that poor death master could tell its new owners if it could talk! So many are happy about its liberation. The therapy required to bring it back to its original glory may make years. Pity the poor new victim! ))))TLM
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From: Bud B.
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Date: 16-Dec-17 |
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Lh Bear 70s A or B TDs, LH red stripe 73/74 Super Kodiak or Super Magnum 48
LH Pearson Gamester
Heck, anything lefty and in good condition is a lucky find.
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From: Zepnut
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Date: 16-Dec-17 |
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How many Kodiak Supreme A riser's have you seen?
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From: HillbillyKing
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Date: 16-Dec-17 |
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1. Whatever bow youre looking for at that time LoL ! 2. The one you need to complete that part of Collection !! Myself it was a 1956 Grizzly !!!
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From: crookedstix
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Date: 16-Dec-17 |
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I call treachery on Frisky! He's getting rid of the Deathmaster just as Pdiddly and I were closing in on forcing him to flight test it...now we'll never know if it was any good!
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From: heydeerman
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Date: 16-Dec-17 |
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Apache Barr, I have 2.
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From: Dan W
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Date: 16-Dec-17 |
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J.R. - NICE Grizz! My '56 is pretty cracked and battered, but (for now, anyway)still strings up and shoots. But I prefer the 1955 Grizzly- I got 3, and they're in excellent shape.
Here's my latest 1955 Griz, a sweet little 40#@28" -just the handle which I re-gripped with deerskin, the other two are all original, but not all minty like yours! ;-)
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From: Frisky
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Date: 16-Dec-17 |
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Don't worry Crookedstix. I have a Super Bow of Bows soon to be here!
Joe
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From: Pdiddly
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Date: 17-Dec-17 |
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So it ends...and so it begins...
Frisky's claims about the prowess of his bows have always been loftier than the arrows shot out of them!
The Super Bow of Bows eh? We shall see.
I shot the Deathmaster and it was quite smooth and quick...nice of you to reunite it with the past owner.
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From: Frisky
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Date: 17-Dec-17 |
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Yes, it's going back to the original owner. However, they had to find a new bow that could exceed it. I've got it coming and will, in time, report on it.
Joe
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From: The Lost Mohican
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Date: 17-Dec-17 |
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Another opportunity for the Securities Exchange Commission ( SEC), to investigate a Frisky "Pump and Dump" scheme. His next roommate may be Bernie Madoff! TLM
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From: mahantango
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Date: 17-Dec-17 |
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Couple already mentioned. Carroll's, Sanders (got one), Pearson Bushmaster(let a couple slip by me).
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From: tonto59
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Date: 18-Dec-17 |
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There is still one or two more I keep my eyes open for. ;-)
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From: SB
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Date: 18-Dec-17 |
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1967 Zebrawood Kodiak Hunter! Even harder to find now that I shoot lefty! I think they made ONE in L/H !
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From: KDdog
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Date: 18-Dec-17 |
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Not vintage, but a one piece whippenstick recurve
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From: Heat
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Date: 18-Dec-17 |
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57 Bear Kodiak, 56 or 60", 45-50#. One on the bay for $1500 but I don't like it that much!
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From: bfisherman11
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Date: 18-Dec-17 |
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I used to keep an eye out for a Wing Slim-Line Competition 2 take down.. I had a friend that shot that model. I did buy one years ago but it was about 5-8# heavier than I preferred, I had to sell it off.
So, just because my small sample size of one in years, that's my pick.
Bill
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From: arrowchucker
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Date: 18-Dec-17 |
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I had a Herters46" Dolly Parton model. Couldn't shoot it so sold it cheap. I lived in western CO in the late 70's. Carrols were like woodticks, Everybody had a bunch and couldn't get rid of them! My old archery coach closed his company " Ramco" and went to Orkney for Carrols in Moab Ut. Like a 130 mile commute. When they closed Ramco, they were making bows for Viking from TX, RobinHood from east coast somewhere and 1 more I can't remember in the NW. Look at old Vegas winners, 1972-1977. 60" 4 wheeled compounds from Ramco, they ruled for a while. Everybody shot fingers then. They redesigned the handle S with a skinner grip and they started snapping? BK was not far away. The local dump was full of pickup loads of limbs and risers, we made a lotof bows from them.
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From: crookedstix
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Date: 19-Dec-17 |
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The FASCO SuperSonic is one that I wish would come up more often; I think they had the best sculpted grip I've ever seen on a production recurve.
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From: Pdiddly
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Date: 19-Dec-17 |
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I was happy to luck into my Super-Sonic...one of the quietest bows I have...have only seen one and one Sonic that Kerry had.
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From: Grampus
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Date: 07-Apr-18 |
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Martin Venom or Viper, both longbows. I have the shorter bow, and continue to search for the longer bow.
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From: Woods Walker
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Date: 08-Apr-18 |
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One's that my wife won't notice.
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From: oldgoat
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Date: 08-Apr-18 |
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Bear 76r with both straight limbs and a grip that's not target colors!
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From: Rigs
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Date: 08-Apr-18 |
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Original St. Charles Thunderbird.
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From: 69 super kodiak
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Date: 08-Apr-18 |
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I have not seen a Bear "Lil Kodiak" in a while. It is the kids version of the super kodiak. I would like to buy a right hand one some day. They might not be super rare, but I don't see any for sale? Does anyone know how many are around?
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From: Billy Knight
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Date: 08-Apr-18 |
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Compass Kodiak II with walnut riser 56"@ 34# BA903
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From: 69 super kodiak
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Date: 08-Apr-18 |
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The spelling is the bear lit'l kodiak. Not lil kodiak, sorry.
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From: Dan In MI
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Date: 08-Apr-18 |
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I'd like to get my hands on a Stewart multi cam (is that right?)
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From: Mike E
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Date: 08-Apr-18 |
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Hitt Ace, Pearson T/D's. I got lucky on the Pearson in Feb, Have seen a couple of Bud's target bows.
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From: Mike E
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Date: 08-Apr-18 |
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64" '59 Kodiak with a Bubinga riser, according to Wade Phillips there are only a couple that were made.
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