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Who shoots an English Longbow

Messages posted to thread:
Sherwood Poacher 29-Nov-23
Jeff Durnell 29-Nov-23
Jeff Durnell 29-Nov-23
Mike E 29-Nov-23
Mike E 29-Nov-23
CStyles 30-Nov-23
Zbone 30-Nov-23
CStyles 30-Nov-23
Phil Magistro 30-Nov-23
Phil 30-Nov-23
Patrick 30-Nov-23
Phil 30-Nov-23
Phil 30-Nov-23
Dry Bones 30-Nov-23
Phil 30-Nov-23
Darryl/Deni 30-Nov-23
JMark NC 30-Nov-23
CStyles 30-Nov-23
MStyles 30-Nov-23
Zbone 30-Nov-23
Runner 30-Nov-23
Phil 01-Dec-23
CStyles 01-Dec-23
Phil 01-Dec-23
bugsy 49 01-Dec-23
CStyles 02-Dec-23
Berny 02-Dec-23
barebo2 04-Dec-23
Runner 04-Dec-23
From: Sherwood Poacher
Date: 29-Nov-23




Just asking...who shoots an English longbow. Your thoughts and comments appreciated.....

From: Jeff Durnell
Date: 29-Nov-23




I do. Love em, make em, shoot em, hunt with em. Thoughts? Yeah, I have thoughts.

From: Jeff Durnell
Date: 29-Nov-23




Maybe be more specific. What do you want to know?

They're not too much different.

From: Mike E
Date: 29-Nov-23

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the one in the middle.,picked it up at a shoot somewhere, like Jeff said not too much different than any self bow I've owned, Strunk, 70" and 58lbs, yew, horn tips, which was about 5 more than I liked at this time or I would've kept it longer.

From: Mike E
Date: 29-Nov-23




actually, looking at it now it seems it was bamboo backed yew.

From: CStyles
Date: 30-Nov-23

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I have a Trilam 72" ELB, bamboo backed,ipe center lam, hickory belly. Horn nocks, 50 at 28". Made by Archeybowman on ebay. The bow was about $280, came perfectly tillered, and is a joy to shoot. I have shot ELB's made in England, and also own a bow by Pip Bickerstaffe, I prefer my USA made Trilam. Archeybowman also sells war bows and various lamination combinations including a hickory back, as is typical with current UK bowyers. It is a fun option to have, shoots a little different.

From: Zbone
Date: 30-Nov-23




You guys shooting them off the wrist?

From: CStyles
Date: 30-Nov-23




I added a small (removable) rest to mine. Shot off the hand for awhile, even had one of those funky gloves, didn't like it.

From: Phil Magistro
Date: 30-Nov-23




Phil, please resize and repost your photos at no larger than 640x480.

Thanks.

From: Phil
Date: 30-Nov-23




Sorry Phil ... My mistake

From: Patrick
Date: 30-Nov-23




Chuck, I've been eyeing those longbows from archerybowman on ebay for a long time. They look very well made and yours looks awesome

From: Phil
Date: 30-Nov-23

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OK resized as per request

From: Phil
Date: 30-Nov-23

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From: Dry Bones
Date: 30-Nov-23




I am going to take Gary's question a bit further. HOW do you shoot that off of the wrist/hand? I know it can be done, BUT I have a BW Recurve here currently that has the smallest of shelf, looks like a previous owner may have filed at it a good bit, Point is more than once I have had the tip of a fletching imbed in the meaty part of my hand, one drove deep enough to leave a scar and uncomfortable to pull out. So, how do you shoot off of you hand without having similar issues?

-Bones

From: Phil
Date: 30-Nov-23




Dry Bones first .. your brace height and arrow spine has to be pretty much perfect for the bow you're shooting, plus the leading edge of your feathers needs to blend into the shaft without and sharp steps or sharp edges.

Next ... your release needs to become silky smooth : any deviation left or right and you'll be reaching for the bandaids

Other than that ... it's a piece of cake

From: Darryl/Deni
Date: 30-Nov-23




I like to wrap the leading edge of the feathers very tight with dental floss so as to keep that quill tip from cutting my hand. Phil those big parabolic feathers in your picture look so cool as does that snakey looking bow, did you build that one ?

From: JMark NC
Date: 30-Nov-23




I have a 72” Hickory bamboo backed, off the thumb knuckle longbow/flatbow at roughly 45# with B55. Use wood arrows. Takes some re-adjustment for me if I put it down for an extended time. Relatively quiet and fun to shoot.

From: CStyles
Date: 30-Nov-23




When done correctly shooting off the hand is barely felt, I was surprised when a first tried it, really no force felt from the arrow. What I did not like was it is not as consistent depending how you grip the bow, and the potential for injury if something goes awry with your arrow.

From: MStyles
Date: 30-Nov-23




When I shoot my ELB, I wrap a piece of medial tape around the base of my index finger, almost covering my the base of my knuckle. It works.

From: Zbone
Date: 30-Nov-23




Could probably put one of Ferret's floppy rest off one to save your wrist, but then it would not be authentic...

From: Runner
Date: 30-Nov-23




Better fletching technique.

Many people shoot off the hand with no troubles for decades.

From: Phil
Date: 01-Dec-23




Brace height is another major factor in what we call in knuckle rash here in England.

From: CStyles
Date: 01-Dec-23




It is funny, over the years I have seen many bows older than me (That is old) that did not have a rest, only to have some added improvised rest. My favorite was an old lemon wood bow that had a a Stanley metal angle bracket (like you get at the hardware store) just screwed to the side of the bow. Crude, but it worked. I typically add a small wedge under the leather grip. Nothing wrong with shooting off the hand, I just don't like it, so I add a wedge. Easily reversible

From: Phil
Date: 01-Dec-23

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having an arrow rest on an English long bow is not unheard of.

This portrait of George Douglas Earl of Morton shows a block arrow rest on his bow

From: bugsy 49
Date: 01-Dec-23




I made 2 72 inch elm English long bows, but ended up cutting arrow shelves in them, Not a true ELB, but much more comfy for me to shoot. Same with short horse bows.

From: CStyles
Date: 02-Dec-23




I expect that people have been adding arrow rests for as long as there have been bows

From: Berny
Date: 02-Dec-23

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....ambidextrous, shelved, sighted .... ;-)

From: barebo2
Date: 04-Dec-23

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The 2 in front of the one with the zebrawood handle are rounded belly english style longbows. One has a small antler tip for a rest. Solid hickory - smooth, forgiving, and durable.

From: Runner
Date: 04-Dec-23




"I expect that people have been adding arrow rests for as long as there have been bows"

Bows which have been found and existing primitive cultures still shooting bows seem to dispute this.

It probably took a little longer for the idea to catch on.





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