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Starting a BAR

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SteelyDan 06-Jul-23
SteelyDan 06-Jul-23
SteelyDan 06-Jul-23
SteelyDan 06-Jul-23
4nolz@work 06-Jul-23
Wayne Hess 06-Jul-23
tradslinger 06-Jul-23
SteelyDan 06-Jul-23
George D. Stout 06-Jul-23
SteelyDan 06-Jul-23
SteelyDan 07-Jul-23
SteelyDan 08-Jul-23
Pdiddly2 08-Jul-23
SteelyDan 08-Jul-23
SteelyDan 08-Jul-23
SteelyDan 10-Jul-23
SteelyDan 10-Jul-23
Jeff Durnell 10-Jul-23
SteelyDan 10-Jul-23
Jeff Durnell 11-Jul-23
SteelyDan 20-Jul-23
SteelyDan 20-Jul-23
SteelyDan 20-Jul-23
Wayne Hess 20-Jul-23
ken techau 21-Jul-23
wooddamon1 21-Jul-23
From: SteelyDan
Date: 06-Jul-23

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Time to start building another selfbow. I had a large 4" yew billet that I cut down the middle to make a matching pair. I joined with a z splice and epoxy.

It was naturally deflexed and I thought about making a "BAR" or a big ass reflex. 68" TTT and narrow, but flat I may need to reduce the sapwood just a little.

From: SteelyDan
Date: 06-Jul-23

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I have tried to improve my z splice. Not as easy as it would seem.

From: SteelyDan
Date: 06-Jul-23

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Epoxied...hope it holds up to the clamping and filing yet to come.

From: SteelyDan
Date: 06-Jul-23




Today I may do a little dry heat bending to make sure tips and handle align. Then will start to thin the limbs.

My favourite part of building is taking those long curly strips of yew wood off the limbs with a spoke shave.

Wish me luck. I will post more as I make some progress.

SD

From: 4nolz@work
Date: 06-Jul-23




Love the Z.I never could get the hang of that.

From: Wayne Hess
Date: 06-Jul-23




Interesting

From: tradslinger
Date: 06-Jul-23




Awesome job, I can not see good enough to begin to try that plus my fingers lack feeling. I would need a lot of filler epoxy to fill in my screw ups. I have done a side by side joint where I also drilled and used two dowel rods to epoxy for strength. It worked but it was a learning bow and a little on the light side. I wish you the best and hope to see it finished.

From: SteelyDan
Date: 06-Jul-23

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Of course I have found a small knot hole in the worst possible place. We will have to see where this goes!

SD

From: George D. Stout
Date: 06-Jul-23




The trouble with BARs is that they normally kick like a rented mule.

From: SteelyDan
Date: 06-Jul-23

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I made up a small yew dowel and glued it into the knot hole. The hole was BB sized but was over 1/4" in depth and needed to be filled.

I will do a little limb thinning tomorrow and see if we can floor tiller it; then steam in some curves.

SD

From: SteelyDan
Date: 07-Jul-23

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The yew stave has had its sapwood thinned a little and is floor tillered Tomorrow we will boil a tip and recurve it.

You can see lots of natural deflex in the limbs. Still lots of work left to do.

SD

From: SteelyDan
Date: 08-Jul-23

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Now 40 minutes on the boil, then onto the caul. I decided to do a more gentle bend so that it is more R/D than recurve, for just the reason that George suggests.

From: Pdiddly2
Date: 08-Jul-23




Lovely job Colin!

From: SteelyDan
Date: 08-Jul-23

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Thanks Peter. We will see how it goes.

It bent okay and we will leave it in the caul until tomorrow. Then bend the other end and see what it looks like.

From: SteelyDan
Date: 08-Jul-23

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Sorry for the sideways and upside down pics.

From: SteelyDan
Date: 10-Jul-23

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The tips are curved now.

From: SteelyDan
Date: 10-Jul-23

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My question to self bowyers on this forum.....would it be better to steam out some of the natural deflex now, before starting to tiller? Or should I just leave them be?

SD

From: Jeff Durnell
Date: 10-Jul-23




I would straighten them now, removing all deflex. Then give it time for the moisture to leave before flexing them.

From: SteelyDan
Date: 10-Jul-23




Thanks Jeff. That was my thinking after I put it on a long string tiller and found too little resistance to initial draw.

I will steam both mid limbs and straighten them. That should move the recurve hooks forward too and should enhance performance.

SD

From: Jeff Durnell
Date: 11-Jul-23




Yes sir.

From: SteelyDan
Date: 20-Jul-23

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I finished up the bow in time for the North American Longbow Safari this weekend.

From: SteelyDan
Date: 20-Jul-23

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The curves were not as big as I had hoped for and it came in under weight too. Problems again with the narrow tips wanting to twist.

From: SteelyDan
Date: 20-Jul-23

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I am giving this bow to a friend that I met at the last Rendezvous who showed an interest in selfbows.

Sorry but no full draw pics. Bow is 69", 37#@28", yew billet.

Thanks for watching.

SD

From: Wayne Hess
Date: 20-Jul-23




Nice looking , hope your friend likes it, Take Care

From: ken techau
Date: 21-Jul-23




Good job!

From: wooddamon1 Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 21-Jul-23




Looks good, nice work.





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