Just noticed today and maybe this has been discussed in another thread but 3 Rivers and Easton have brought back the xx75 shaft in Autumn Orange under the Traditional Only name.

darn

if they were going through the trouble bringing them back why did they not go with the traditional swaged nock

sorry

I just don't like those pop out nocks

Andy Man, my thoughts exactly. I think going down to 1716 and 1816 sizes would have been good also. Lot of people shooting lighter bows these days.

I was thinking the new offering is a carbon arrow. I might be wrong though….

Easton did come out with a FMJ shaft in Autumn Orange some years ago This is a xx75 aluminum shaft albeit without swaged nock….:)

Well rats to that!!!

XX75 Aluminum, the nocks look swaged to me?

uses either G nocks or super nocks depanding on arrow size,,also says some sizes Not accepting back orders

Is it all aluminum or is there some carbon in it. I don’t mind the nocks

Just wondering, why does anyone like swaged nocks? When Easton came out with the bushing and push in nocks I thought it was slick. I was done with swaged nocks on sight.

All aluminum. Uni-bushings and Super nocks on all sizes except the 1916's, they get G nocks.

Too bad it has that stupid Traditional Only stamp on it. Who's idea was that? Anheiser Busch?

They’re all aluminum XX75 T9. Ima get me some! ;-)

If you don’t like the logo, it comes off with acetone. It doesn’t bother me nor do the nocks.

I like glue-on nocks better as well. Push in may be neat for some, but they are unnecessary with a tuned arrow, and most require relatively skinny strings to function best. The present generation grew up with push-in nocks, so they are going to want them.

They are out of stock on 1916’s already and no back orders.

Too bad they aren’t carbon.

I am proud Easton and 3 Rivers brought them back. I really like aluminum arrows. To me, they are just super simple and shoot very good.

I will be ordering a dozen pretty quick.

I have some shafts with the uni bushing and I have some of the older swaged shafts. I like the uni bushing the best.

I agree with Matt, I am proud of Easton and 3Rivers. People have been calling for the return of more aluminum shafts for a long time. Now that someone has done it, 3Rviers, aluminum lovers should be happy about it regardless of the type of nocks or name. The Traditional Only name is a 3Rviers exclusive brand name. If they are the ones who worked out a deal to get Easton to make them again, they should be proud to have their name on them. The precision of aluminum shafts has always been near perfect which results in accurate shots. I say thanks to 3 Rivers and Easton for having the courage to take a bit of a risk by bringing them back. I'd bet a lot of archers will be happy to get them. Us old guys had only wood arrows in the beginning, then the aluminums and fiberglass arrived, which we all liked, but the aluminums were still the best. Then came the carbons, tough as hell but not the precision of the aluminums. Who knows what might be next in shaft material.

If they were going to do that, why not bring back the Legacy series with swaged nock in a 1816 and up.

I ordered 2 dozen 2016’s earlier. I don’t care about the nocks, glue on or pushin. Been shooting metal more lately anyway. Wish they weren’t out of 1916, my 45# bows would have liked them.

I like push in nocks much more.

I just got into aluminum arrows for trad. They shoot better than any arrow I have tried.

I love the idea and give a thumbs up to 3 rivers now it be cool to see some of the vintage camo patterns return like trebark!

Yea cheaper than Lancaster

If you are bent on getting AA arrow shafts and want glue on nocks instead of the push in style nock buy some glue in swaged nock adaptors. Easy fix.

#2 They are around $55.00 a dozen before shipping. My guess because it is 3 Rivers is shipping will be around $20.00 or more because of the post office over size charge.

Yea shipping is high on stuff now but that is a good price. I’m not familiar enough with carbon to know how savaging helps

Yea shipping is high on stuff now but that is a good price. I’m not familiar enough with carbon to know how savaging helps

Swaging. Dang autocorrect

Shipping to my place would be $11.95 for a dozen. Doesn't sound too high accordingly. Better get them while they're available. Easton will likely continue them if they have a positive profit return. It takes more than a few guys on a forum to create demand, however. And of course, there are those who will complain about logos, or why don't they come out with this or that; just buy them if you want them as they might disappear altogether again, like they did before.

A couple years ago there was a guy on Ebay selling NOS original orange shafts. I bought a dozen each 2018, 2020, and 2117 cost me about $275.00

Hey, I'm interested! I've just ordered a new HH Bow and I'd switched to wood completely 20 years ago. But I started shooting old bear recurve in early 70's. Being very little money then, I tried everything of what little was available to me. Then I got into the xx75's and nothing else compared to the Autumm Orange! Now I'm committed to shooting an asl and just never even considered trying anything but wood. But funny 3Rivers has brought these back just in time. And when I first started with wood, good POC shafts was average 16-20$ a dozen. Now, these xx75 are not much more than wood! I still have a dozen 2018's that I reserve for my Kodiak Hunter because they just shoot so perfect out of it, just as they did in my old Super Grizzly! I'm sure thinking of trying em, and i hope they sell so they'll remain available??! I'd much preferred the glue on neocks tho! Once you know your tune, aluminum is so consistent you never have to doubt alignment. And I went to glue on adapters in them for hot melt glue. Much prefer that to screw in anything! I've always only used 2018, 2020, and 2117 in 50-55# recurve. If I try them, I'm thinking 2016 @29" arrow will be very close? For a ASL 68" 43#@28", which my true draw is 28.5". Any opinions?? And I have no experience with the uni-nocks or whatever they're called? Don't know if I'd l7ke the arrows on account them anyways!

I believe you get free shipping on 3 dozen.

Hey everyone! Happy to answer any questions I can, though a lot of information on the shafts can be found here: https://www.3riversarchery.com/traditional-only-autumn-orange-xx75-shafts.html These are a long time in the making and I'm excited to see how they do. Below is my attempt at answering

Andy Man - Easton doesn't offer swag as an option.

trad archer 1 - If these popular sizes do well, I'd see us expanding on the offering soon enough.

Jeff Durnell - Ouch! I have great pride in our brand Traditional Only and how the logo looks. Though, I need to remind myself it isn't for everyone.

George D. Stout - Less and less glue-on nocks being made anymore I'm afraid. Scary to think about if they ever come hard to find.

Kelly - We didn't get in the 1916 or the 2219. I'm not sure when they will come either.

Kanati - Well, we do have these: https://www.3riversarchery.com/easton-fmj-5mm-autumn-orange-shafts-limited.html

Jim - Easton doesn't offer swag anymore. I don't know anywhere you can get it done either.

M60gunner - Sign up for the waitlist, we just have not got the 1916 in yet. I'm not sure when, but assume "soon."

Aluminum all the way!!!! Lol

I used to hunt with them in the late 70’s with my Howard Hill Tembo. Would love to shoot them from my Shrew Classic Hunter II with carbon limbs. Cut to center, 48.5 pounds at my 29” draw. I cut my arrows at 29.5 inches and use 200 grain point. What spine would you recommend???

This is cool to see. Good news to me.

This is cool to see. Good news to me.

I too wish they had swaged nocks - alas, it sounds like swaged aluminum is a thing of the past. I have 48 swaged AO 2117s in my man-cave, uncut and unfletched - just collected them over the years when they popped up on ebay. I've got a couple doz gamegetter green 2117s as well.... FYI, not for sale!

You teaser goldentrout-one!

For those wanting swag nocks, it was brought to my attention, why not put these in the uni-bushing: https://www.3riversarchery.com/arrow-nock-adapters.html

This should work for all but the 1916 size, as the Super nock is a direct fit .246" press-in, and these adapters fit the same, so it would be an option at least.

Really cool and even cooler that 3R Shooter jumped on and answered questions.

I like aluminum arrows so this is nice to hear.

Thanks 3R shooter

For the info

Gonna miss the s wedged nocks See the jazz don’t have them anymore either And Classic are gone

I like my bigger throated mercury speed nicks

I do like the Super uni nocks but prefer the old style since I’m sitting many thousands of Mercury and 3 line Micro Speed nocks but that won’t stop me from ordering 1916’s when they get them in.

Thanks, 3 R Shooter!

3R , I ordered 2 dozen 2016 yesterday. Finally used my gift cards from Christmas. I know I will be wanting more later. Let me get through 2 heart stints and valve replacement. Figure that will have me shooting my “girly” bows more and more.

I also ordered 2 doz, shipped for free! Thanks 3 rivers

Luv the shirt Homey88... Can I ask where you found that? Thanks

Hopefully 1816's will be coming in the future.

I killed my first deer with Autumn Orange back in '87. I'd love to try it again.

I just ordered 1 doz 2117 and 1 doz 2018 - I didn't need them, but I felt it was my civic duty to keep the demand for AO alive....

Glad they are back! I like those Noel's myself.

Nocks...not Noels

I give it two thumbs up!

I plan to get a couple dozen when the 1916's are available.

I would try a couple dozen but AK doesn't qualify for free shipping and the cost to ship one dozen vs two is almost double. ? Hard pass

Looks like they are going quick I ordered a dozen 2016.

I see the 2018 is the shortest of all the shafts. I’d of thought it would be as long, if not longer, than the softer spines.

Steve

I shot 2419's with 190 grain snuffers 1 and 1/2 wide out of my 80# Brackenbury recurve . Talk about shooting logs . But what a deadly combination! They would smoke anything you hit.

So I’m confused but am new to aluminum arrows. Other than Color what is th difference in autum orange and xx75 Camo’s?

babysaph,,,,,,, no difference in the shafts,, buy new ones today same shafts has back in 1980's, 2016 today same as a 2016 back than,

Grouchy, same size I shot from my 80# Black Widow. But that was 30 + years ago. One thing, they didn’t bend unless I stood on them.

I'm glad to be made aware 3Rivers is selling them. I hope the 1916s come back on their website.

Can’t wait for the 1916’s!

Great job 3Rivers !

My fave arrow from way back . Just ordered 3dz 2916’s and 3dz 2018’s !

Heck yes ! Super excited eh !

Another one here hoping for 1916's. Not in stock right now.

For the longest time a lot of people lamented about the AO being discontinued- well, somebody listened- and finally brought them back- even in this time of economic woe. I’m ordering some for sure. Just to show support. If the sales aren’t there, they’ll go away again. Possibly forever.

I ordered a dozen and I haven't shot an aluminum arrow since I shot compounds. I always wanted some autumn orange arrows though, but never had any for whatever reason. I can always remove the logo or paint over it :)

Got it. Thanks so it’s just the color the guys go crazy for. Lol

If it’s just color what’s the logo have to do with anything? Was there no logo on the old AO shafts?

The color is nostalgic. Back in the seventies when these came out XX75 was the cat’s meow (X7 was the ultra premium target shaft). Shot my first deer with Autumn Orange 2117 from my Howard Hill Tembo in 1978. There use to be two companies that swaged the point end. One was a spin swage and one produced a swage similar to the old nock swage.

Jack, nope, no logos. The only marking on them was the arrow size, then model and size, like xx75 2018, for instance. But that was back before the manufacturers thought we should advertise for them with every single little piece of gear. I always thought logos on vanes looked terrible too.

I have a bunch of old aluminums that have nothing but the arrow size on them. They have the manufacturers i.d. stamps on the outside of the boxes, stickers on the inside of the boxes, but nothing on the arrows themselves. That was the traditional way to do it :)

ordered 2 Doz 2016's guess have to accept the pop out nocks

I think uni-bushing and pop out nocks are the greatest thing since sliced bread...8^)

Yeah me too Ray, my first bowkilled deer was with XX75 Autumn Oranges, Jennings Model Super T, and Savora 4-blade SweptWings... Either 1976 or 1977....

Ah, the nostalgia...

Sure ain’t homage bread

Home made

Nope. They're not. I wouldn't hunt with them just for that reason, even though they do look really good with blood on them. I just like making my own hunting arrows with wood. Nor would I ever shoot aluminum or carbon from a selfbow, but that's just me. I'll target shoot them AO from a glass bow though.

Push on nocks are always centered, you can glue a nock on crooked to swage... Only takes a slight out off center to affect flight too... Been there done that...

Good to hear and thank ya 3 Rivers for doing this.

I was thinking of ordering a couple doz 2117 dose anyone know how long the 2117 shafts are? 3 river's site say's they vary I would like to see them bring back the 2020'sThanks

I have good feelings for autum orange shafts

had a autum orange 2117 with a screw in SS razor head had a blue ferrel killed 3 deer with that same arrow and 2 groundhogs

then left it up in a big tree shooting at a coon thought about chopping down the tree to get it Ha ha

Yes Turkey Chaser, 2020's would be very nice indeed.

Another vote for 2020s. Will be buying a couple dozen once my camo hunters run low.

Y'all beat me to it... Yes why not a 2020 shaft.

2016, 2020, and 2117 tradmt? Haha

I appreciate them making the effort to bring back a shaft that a lot of us cut our teeth on and have been clamoring for. I don't need any shafts right now but ordered two dozen 2216's just to support the effort.

Yeah I got 2 doz 2016’s

I just bought 2 doz 2016. I promised myself I would never buy another arrow. I do not need anymore. I have been unloading my Easton Axis and will sell the other 100 or so this summer at shoots. I am staying with this bow and the pop cans for the rest of my life.

1916 s are in stock. Just ordered 4 dozen

Beat me to the punch Fritz. Was just coming to say 1916 just arrived. Emails sent to those on the wait list already and we didn't order as many 1916 as other sizes, so if you want them, do not delay.

Box Call 71 - We are not making them in 2213 right now. If they do well I do see us expanding on to the offering, but for the moment just what you see in the drop down listing on the product page.

C'mon Jack, you should make that selfbow you've been talking about. I was kinda looking forward to that for you.

Just tried to order but it wouldn’t accept the free shipping code SHIP99 on my iPhone, urgh!

Guess I’ll have to wait to order from my desktop when I get home on Thursday. Hope there are 5 dz 1916’s left.

5 dz!!!

Dang Kelly, save some for the rest of us!

:^)

3 rivers= "were are not making them in 2213 right now" . 3 Rivers owns Easton?

2020.

2020.

2020....

Got my 2016s today!

I’ve gotten sentimental in my old age. I’ll be a customer for autumn orange because it’s cool-looking and it reminds me of the good old days.

Kelly - That's strange it was not working. Other than where we are shipping too and $ minimum, not sure what it could be. Give us a call if you still have issues.

Jon Stewart - These are being made for us by Easton as a private label shaft. So no we do not own Easton, but unless we order it, they are not being made.

Jeff Durnell - Who knows what the future holds. Time will tell.

newell38 - Some sweet looking arrows there!

Just haven’t had time for the selfbow but really want to make one

Thanks 3 Rivers archery for convincing Easton to make these, I have been an aluminum shooter since to early 70's.

Made my first order this morning.

A little 0000 steel wool and acetone and that logo will disappear.

Do they even make 2020s anymore???

Good news is that these are just a color option, so 3R can keep offering them as long as they can sell them in a quantity that makes the pricing work. They probably still have whatever tooling is required to make 2020s, so maybe a comeback could happen??

I’m not a big fan of the additional graphics, but I’m not offended by them… so as long as they’re removable, it’s All Good. Full-length solid color doesn’t really turn my crank these days, so I guess I should figure out my paint/glue/fletching issues and get after it..

The irony for me is that 40 years ago, I thought “ORANGE??? Are you out of your MIND??”, so I thought they were “ugly”; now I think they’re kinda cool. ;)

Think I’m gonna grab a screenshot of Homey’s T-shirt and save it to my desktop….

Corax_latrans - Unless I missed a shaft, Easton did discontinue 2020 altogether. Yes, they could make it again. In our talks in the past with Easton about 2020 size it had a substantially high order quantity that wasn't feasible.

We will see where they are on it when/if we go to add sizes to the model in the future. They are selling as fast as we can make them into packs, so that is a good sign.

3R Shooter, thanks for listening to all the requests for AO. I’ll leave off the bitchin about logos and nocks. I’m glad to see them and would really like to see some 2114’s. Thanks again.

I just got 1 doz 2117 and 1 doz 2018 today - they look great, and a great price! It would be nice if you could choose your nock color - but I suppose that would make things extremely complicated for the 3R shipping folks - I can see customers coming completely unglued if they got the wrong color nocks....

Got my arrows today too. That was quick. I'm not worried about the nock color since they're so easy to change.

Way cool, these fine companies are communicating with each other...

I just ordered two dozen 1916's and shipped out the same today. Can't beat that. Thanks, 3 Rivers.

Got my 2016’s today and have a dozen 1916’s on the way!

Guess I better get my order in soon! hoping there is some 2016s left! 2018s will work too i guess ha

Got my 2016’s and 2018’s in the mail today ….

I’m in Oz and that is as quick a shipping as I’ve ever had from the US , ever

They look amazing

Thanks 3Rivers

Placed my order last Friday and says it’s still pending?

My 2016s will be here Friday. They’re getting white reflective wraps and 4 fletch 3” trad vanes which I’ll shoot 3 under out of my ASL with a bow quiver just to stir the pot.

Cut mine to length and will do points and inserts tomorrow being gonna be a rainy day

Brown cock feather and white hen feathers

Finally got my order for 1916's and other stuff to go thru but had to use my home computer. apparantly my iphone doesn't like their free shipping code but it went straight through on the desktop.

better not wait like me! i waited to order today and i was fixin to get a dozen 2016s and they are out of stock! 2018s will do fine just ordered a dozen. will get a dozen 2016s when they come back in stock. also orderd a dozen of these trad vanes to test out. they are cheap enough not to give them a tinker.

My order made a few hours ago says already shipped. Should have them in a couple three days. 1916 is not my preferred size but they'll due. 2013's and 1820'd I like the best but neither are the orange color which really shows good in hunting situations.

My order was shipped today. Fletched with two white and one barred. Going to look good with the vintage Bear mag TD imo.

Thanks Easton and 3 Rivers for bringing back the autumn shafts,doing my part,I ordered 3 doz last night and some swege nock adapter's

Ordered a dozen 2117 this morning!

There’s gonna have to be a thread to post the fletching jobs on these bad boys!!!

There’s gonna have to be a thread to post the fletching jobs on these bad boys!!!

Mine were delivered yesterday. They are very nice!

Looking forward to getting them fletched up!

1916s I got yesterday

Got mine but still can’t decide on color combo. Right now blue wraps with blue and flo yellow feathers but I already have a dozen like that. Went thru my stock and nothing grabs me yet. Yellow and orange like I used back when just seems so plain.

I'm undecided also. Got a few ideas starting to develop, but I don't want to make a rash decision. Gonna mull it over for a while.

this is what I did to mine kept it simple Brown barred cock and 2 white hen

Andy, I love those

Thanks

Went plain Jane

Useful spine info here:

http://www.shootingthestickbow.com/ArrowGuide.html

Always liked the Autum Orange shafts the best..gonna have to get some.

Just cand decide on what nock I want

I like the white nocks

Kept it simple

Was really excited to get my order but seems UPS (undelivered parcel service) has lost my order. Yep, they’re sold out now. Postal has never lost a package of mine.

Got mine today. They look and fly great!

Just received my order of 1916s. It says they are out of 2016s and are not accepting back orders. I hope they will be getting more?

Our 2nd shipment of 2016 arrived yesterday and are in stock now.

Thanks, just ordered.

Well looks like ya have your answer as to whether they will sell or not

I live in Illinois, so not too far across the border from 3Rivers. Ordered Friday they arrived Saturday - that was quick.

This is great intel. I will get on this opportunity. Wish the 2018's were longer but I'll be happy with 2117's for now. Thanks for the tip!

Ok I have a question. Do the knocks that come with the 1916’s come out because I could not pull them out? I wanted to see if the tapered end would except a glue on knock anybody know the answer to that?

Yes, they come out. Those bushings are tight though, so you will probably need pliers to pull them out.

You're wasting your time with a glue-on nock. The insert nocks are 100 times better, simpler and require no glue. I know that's hard to believe and tradition is tradition, but get over the lack of a swaged nock. They got away from swaged nocks for a reason.

Thanks, Limbwalker. Old habits die hard.

Thanks, Limbwalker. Old habits die hard.

I had the same trouble about 20 years ago but I'll never go back to swaged nocks now.

I grew up in a age that Aluminum was the preferred shaft hands down. I have ALWAYS hated them. Preferred woodies. Once carbon was introduced I have no incline to go back to wood or aluminum. Your mileage may vary.

Coop, they all have their place. I grew up shooting aluminum and was one of the first to admit here that carbons were superior in a lot of ways. But I also appreciate wood and still love aluminum arrows. None of them are the wrong answer. Glad we have choices.

Wish the 1916’s I got had the fl green nocks like in the pictures. Mine came with fl orange.

I agree with limb walker on the nocks

Got some of my 2018s fletched up tonight

Nice helical fletch. I’m glad these came exactly 30.5in long that’s exactly where I ended up bareshaft with 150 up front. Lucky I guess

Sheepdogreno, what was the uncut length of those 2018's? I have a hard time believing they come shorter than the 2016's.

They were 30.5…I got lucky and knew that 2018s would get me really close at that length. I was also skeptical that they would be shorter but they definitely are. I guess I don’t understand I believe the 2016s come 32in which is great. Wish the 2018s did as well then I could use them in more of my bows that are lighter

The 2018 have been shorter for a long time. Never understood that myself. Makes it difficult with longer draw lengths.

But at least you guys with the longer draws have plenty of options….

Personally, I’m of two minds on nocks; I don’t often think too much about those incidental RobinHoods, so that’s not a big worry, but I hate it when I have a nock bounce out. Maybe it’s less of a problem with Al than carbons?

30.5 for 2018's is just dumb. I'm sure it has something to do with the manufacturing process, but I guess I'll just get some 2117's like the "good 'ol days" and hope I am man enough to tune them. ha, ha.

You think maybe they start with a metal slug and draw it out ‘till they run out of metal?

If that were the case, seems like there would be an upper limit of X grains of shaft…

You think maybe they start with a metal slug and draw it out ‘till they run out of metal?

If that were the case, seems like there would be an upper limit of X grains of shaft…

Can’t get enough of these. Here’s another half dozen 2018s I did.

Lookin good nice work...

I finally finished up a dozen. I am not a plain arrow guy. I did cheat and used wraps that I crested. These are working out of a couple bows just fine. I saw on the Easton chart they consider a 2016 to be 500 spine. So I tried them from my 55# LB. They flew great but just a tad light. I think I am pushing the limits on that weight unless I cut them short and load up the front which I am not a fan of. But out of my 48# recurve they are great.

Sorry forgot the picture

Yep I’m just waiting to get home to my pronghorn and I think I’ll be ordering a dozen 2016s

Sheepdogreno, now you have me wondering if I could get away with 30.5" shafts on 2018's. :D

Gonna go measure twice and order once, I guess. ha, ha.

I like the 2018s plenty of weight and have been able to tune them to a couple bows. Shooting them out if my das longbow now and had to trim them an inch to 29.5. It’s just shy of #50 on my fingers but having and adjustable side plate helps too. They are flying about as good as I could ask for after some micro adjustments on the side plate

I was going to order some 2016s and looks like they’re out of stock

“ Just can’t decide on what nock I want “

I’m a orange color guy but with this choice I prefer the white nocks.

Just wanted to say I emailed 3 rivers and they said they should be back in stock in a couple weeks. Just wanted to give a heads up to anyone interested

Thanks droptine. My guess is these have sold so well they won’t be going away anytime soon. I sure hope they don’t at least these have become my favorite shaft.

I just got my new 3 Rivers autumn orange 2018 shafts. I fletched them with 2 yellow and one orange, 5 inch shield left wing. They shoot great out of my Ferguson longbow.

Thanks 3 Rivers Archery and Easton for making these available.

Hard not like aluminum. 2018 with 175 field tip they weight 585.

Very quiet and shoot wonderful.

That is all we used back in the day. We killed many a white tail with them. Now I just shoot wood out of self bows, and carbon out of glass bows, but their is nothing wrong with aluminum if that is your preference. Same with B55 string.

Just ordered a dozen,,the guy that took my order said they sold out twice,

I think I'll be getting some of them.They look really good all all fletched up.

EASTON better put on more people and order more "STUFF" ? Seems like a lot of ARCHERS / BOW-HUNTERS LOVE the "AUTUMN ORANGE" ??

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