Traditional Archery Discussions on the Leatherwall


Ron LaClair and Norm Blaker 1975

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MStyles 10-Sep-22
Mechanic 11-Sep-22
Jinkster 11-Sep-22
Jinkster 11-Sep-22
Buzz 11-Sep-22
TradToTheBone 11-Sep-22
Missouribreaks 11-Sep-22
MGF 11-Sep-22
George D. Stout 11-Sep-22
Mpdh 11-Sep-22
Steve P 11-Sep-22
tradmt 11-Sep-22
George Tsoukalas 11-Sep-22
Wudstix 11-Sep-22
tradslinger 11-Sep-22
MGF 11-Sep-22
MStyles 11-Sep-22
George Tsoukalas 11-Sep-22
MStyles 11-Sep-22
Greenstyk 12-Sep-22
Jinkster 12-Sep-22
redquebec 12-Sep-22
MGF 12-Sep-22
MGF 12-Sep-22
Greenstyk 12-Sep-22
TradToTheBone 13-Sep-22
MGF 13-Sep-22
Greenstyk 13-Sep-22
From: MStyles
Date: 10-Sep-22




Watch Ron LaClair & Norm Blaker performing incredible archery shots.

https://youtu.be/Cld8lPMucBA

From: Mechanic
Date: 11-Sep-22




Awesome shooting

From: Jinkster
Date: 11-Sep-22




Lemme make it a lil easier for folks here...

From: Jinkster
Date: 11-Sep-22




Oh and God forbid!...were they hunched over and canting their bows?...do ya think they were gapping or string walking? LOL!

From: Buzz
Date: 11-Sep-22




Nice.

Thanks.

From: TradToTheBone
Date: 11-Sep-22




I was fortunate to see them in person years ago. I still love to shoot aerial targets. I was never good enough to eve attempt tennis ball and smaller targets.

From: Missouribreaks
Date: 11-Sep-22




Yep, form is all wrong, lol.

From: MGF
Date: 11-Sep-22




Who ever said you can't bend over or cant your bow?

From: George D. Stout
Date: 11-Sep-22




Met both of them at ETAR at one time or another. Fine folks.

From: Mpdh Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 11-Sep-22




Saw them do this at the MBH RENDEZVOUS when it was in Harrison MI.

MP

From: Steve P
Date: 11-Sep-22




Yes, rendezvous at the fairgrounds in Harrison. Mpdh, that's been some years back. Quite a shooting exhibition.

Steve

From: tradmt
Date: 11-Sep-22




“Who ever said you can't bend over or cant your bow?“

A lot of folks that post here daily, that’s who.

Awesome video thanks!

From: George Tsoukalas
Date: 11-Sep-22




Thanks Mstyles. That was amazing. Jawge

From: Wudstix Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 11-Sep-22




Pretty impressive, wish I had met them.

From: tradslinger
Date: 11-Sep-22




gotta love it, exactly why I love longbows, just wish that I had a really nice 45# longbow again. When you have one that you can shoot and really shoot great, never get rid of it!

From: MGF
Date: 11-Sep-22




""Who ever said you can't bend over or cant your bow?“ A lot of folks that post here daily, that’s who"

I haven't seen that. I think most hunters are prepared to cant and lean as shooting conditions require. Who said different?

Though leaning and canting might not help much on the target line.

From: MStyles
Date: 11-Sep-22




I’ve never heard of the “no leaning over or canting your bow” rule. Evidently Ron LaClair & Norm Blaker hadn’t heard of that rule either.

From: George Tsoukalas
Date: 11-Sep-22




I met, Ron and he was very humble. Jawge

From: MStyles
Date: 11-Sep-22




I’ve spent hours talking to Norm Blaker. He’s always at the Kalamazoo Expo, with his Wife or Son. If you want to talk to Norm about selfbows, black powder, hawks, knives, he’s a wealth of knowledge. One year me, my bother and 2 of our friends stood and talked to him for 2 hours. His Wife stood there smiling. She’s a Saint. Last time I saw and spoke to him, he was making flintlock rifles.

From: Greenstyk
Date: 12-Sep-22




The greatest travesty of it all, they are Snap Shooting! Say it ain’t so! Lol

From: Jinkster
Date: 12-Sep-22

Jinkster's embedded Photo



It was my honor that when I posted pix of my Bushsword custom ordered from James Helms (at the time recent winner of History Channels “Forge in Fire”) Ron PM ‘Ed me asking if I could get him inline on James’s books to order himself a custom forged Bowie knife from James to which I referenced Ron to the guy who “got me in”…(as at that point knife maker’s usually “Close their books”)…and that guy was Joe Paranee and along with Ron’s well established notoriety?…Mr. LaClair’s order for a custom Bowie knife got slipped into “Helms Forgings” order list and Ron got his custom forged Bowie knife and couldn’t have been more appreciative to all involved….one of the better things I’ve done in life. :)

This is my Bushsword…wish I saved a pic of Ron’s Bowie knife…

From: redquebec
Date: 12-Sep-22




I thought the most impressive part of the demonstration was the backstop. Totally safe way to know where your arrows are going. (Sarcasm.)..(and yet not?!?!) Thanks for posting that, really enjoyed it. (No sarcasm.)

From: MGF
Date: 12-Sep-22




Greenstyk said "The greatest travesty of it all, they are Snap Shooting! Say it ain’t so! Lol"

Are they? They are shooting fast but reliably hitting very small air born targets implies great control.

From: MGF
Date: 12-Sep-22




Jinks said "one of the better things I’ve done in life. :)"

It was nice of you and I'm glad he got his knife but one of the better things you've done in life? It was a phone call and a knife. Did you raise children, support a family, learn a trade etc.?

From: Greenstyk
Date: 12-Sep-22




MGF actually it implies great concentration on a small airborne object. Actually a large part of instinctive shooting is concentration on a spot and the smaller the better. Unless someone is an accomplished instinctive shooter then they don’t understand that you can focus on a spot and release as soon as you hit anchor and hit the spot. Most of those that don’t shoot instinctively would call that snap shooting. Because they themselves can’t shoot that way they disparage those that can. My earlier post was sarcastic in nature because I shoot purely instinctive. You are right it is a controlled shot and not just gripping and ripping. By the way I’ve read post on this site such as “ I don’t shoot instinctive because I want to hit what I shoot at.” These guys in the video proved that instinctive shooting is accurate.

From: TradToTheBone
Date: 13-Sep-22




MBH rendezvous in the late 80’s is where I got to see them showcase their shooting prowess.

From: MGF
Date: 13-Sep-22




Greenstyk...I don't know what aiming method either of them used. I guess I read Ron LaClair's posts long enough that I should know but I don't. I do know that I've shot plenty of aerial targets and I "aim".

From: Greenstyk
Date: 13-Sep-22




I suppose I assumed they were shooting instinctively because they were canting the bows, leaning forward and shooting fast all which are characteristics of shooting instinctively. There is nothing wrong with aiming just as there is nothing wrong with instinctive shooting. I have killed tons of doves, quail, ducks and woodcock with a shotgun and I know I shoot much better when I shoot it instinctively or “snap shoot” than when I aim. That is what works for me.





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