Traditional Archery Discussions on the Leatherwall


The perfect deer set-up

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Jarhead 20-Jul-22
tradmt 20-Jul-22
Boker 20-Jul-22
Altitude Sickness 20-Jul-22
Jarhead 20-Jul-22
YH2268 20-Jul-22
Altitude Sickness 20-Jul-22
Tethered Falcon 20-Jul-22
George D. Stout 20-Jul-22
JusPassin 20-Jul-22
Biscuit 20-Jul-22
tradmt 20-Jul-22
HEXX 20-Jul-22
Nemophilist 20-Jul-22
monkeyball 20-Jul-22
Greenstyk 20-Jul-22
celtpaddy 20-Jul-22
Yellah Nocks 20-Jul-22
David McLendon 20-Jul-22
Dave Lay 20-Jul-22
Nemophilist 20-Jul-22
LBshooter 20-Jul-22
elkpacker 20-Jul-22
Thumper 20-Jul-22
Red Beastmaster 20-Jul-22
Live2Hunt 20-Jul-22
Altitude Sickness 20-Jul-22
Jegs.mi 20-Jul-22
Jeff Durnell 20-Jul-22
iowacedarshooter 20-Jul-22
CritterGitter62 20-Jul-22
cut it out 20-Jul-22
cut it out 20-Jul-22
Yellah Nocks 20-Jul-22
Briar 20-Jul-22
Kodiak 20-Jul-22
grizzly63 20-Jul-22
mangonboat 20-Jul-22
Altitude Sickness 21-Jul-22
sammyg 21-Jul-22
Will tell 21-Jul-22
BigB 21-Jul-22
Joe2Crow 21-Jul-22
swampbowman 21-Jul-22
soldier 21-Jul-22
swampbowman 21-Jul-22
grizz 21-Jul-22
Andy Man 21-Jul-22
Bill Rickvalsky 21-Jul-22
Andy Man 21-Jul-22
Altitude Sickness 21-Jul-22
Darryl/Deni 21-Jul-22
David McLendon 21-Jul-22
Nemophilist 21-Jul-22
monkeyball 21-Jul-22
monkeyball 21-Jul-22
Nemophilist 21-Jul-22
Desperado 21-Jul-22
monkeyball 21-Jul-22
Blue Duck 22-Jul-22
Tom McCool 22-Jul-22
George D. Stout 22-Jul-22
N Y Yankee 22-Jul-22
Verdeburl 22-Jul-22
Stick Hippie 22-Jul-22
Jack Whitmrie jr 23-Jul-22
dakotabowhunter 23-Jul-22
iowacedarshooter 23-Jul-22
Dirtnap 23-Jul-22
Oldbowyer 23-Jul-22
Harleywriter 23-Jul-22
Don T. Lewis 23-Jul-22
Buckshot 23-Jul-22
BigB 23-Jul-22
Don T. Lewis 23-Jul-22
Rocky 24-Jul-22
Lonster 10-Aug-22
Gun 10-Aug-22
Josh H 10-Aug-22
From: Jarhead
Date: 20-Jul-22




It's never too early to talk about Fall.

What's your perfect WT deers set up? Bow - model, poundage, length, weight Arrow - broadhead - Specialty gear?

I'll take a go:

Bow - Saluki Ibex, 60" 45#... it's short, smooth, quick... and silly quiet. 45# lets me really take my time. Arrow - give me my 4 fletch GT skinnies Broadhead - Three blade 175 VPA's... they just answer the mail for me over and over Specialty Gear - I'm a big guy... and seem to do better while wearing my Ghillie Suit.

From: tradmt
Date: 20-Jul-22




AR-15, 60 grain partition. Probably a red dot with low magnification.

Lever guns may be even better, hard to beat the short carbine though.

AR-10 platform in 308, 6.5 Creedmore or some such works well too, just more recoil than 223 but offers a bit more effective range.

From: Boker
Date: 20-Jul-22




Tradmt

Your going to have folks fired up lol, but I also like lever guns but my favorites are my blackpowder percussions.

To the original question

I plan to hunt with my 59 kodiak this year I have some spruce shafts tip with a bear razor head. Bows 43lbs at so at my draw. Arrows weigh 500grs , B-55 string. the combo is shooting 165fps through chronograph.

confident it will do the job if I do mine. 20 yards would be my max but I’d hope for 15 or less.

I am also a big guy and it’s been hard to find places to hide from the deer lol

Was thinking about trying a chillier suit this year but ordered a leafy suit from easy camo to try.

From: Altitude Sickness
Date: 20-Jul-22




For whitetail I usually have a batting order of which bow leads off. Then when that bow kills it’s deer. The on deck bow is up next. I’ll have 4

Bows in order. This year it’s looking like

1. SanMarco Eagle

2. One of my Self bows or Either the StCharles Thunderbird again or N.M. Baraga

3. Great Northern Classic

4. ‘59 or ‘60 Kodiak

Quiver, RiverWolf or Safarituff

Arrows from cedar and Doug fir, to Aluminum FMJ and Carbon depending on spine and bow

BHs , old cheap 2 blades up to Iron Will 250s

Clothes synthetic to wool and fur

From: Jarhead
Date: 20-Jul-22




Jay... when you're a killer the gear don't matter! Me? I need alllllll the help I can get!!

From: YH2268 Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 20-Jul-22




Over the last few years I've switched from my recurves to longbows. I've got 3 different bows set up to use. (1) my Yellowstone Half Breed T/D, 58" 44lb, (2) a Yellowstone Hunter that I got from "BigB" here on LW, 60" 46lb, and (3) is my Wengard Chamois 58" 48lb. I shoot mostly aluminum arrows and some tapered cedars with Eclipse, Ace, and Magnus 2 blade heads. Hunt from tree stands, ladder stands, and also hunt from natural ground blind set-ups. I hunt the local white-tail population here in Ohio and also have a trip planned to deer hunt in South Dakota in Oct.

From: Altitude Sickness
Date: 20-Jul-22




Hey!! Your the Zebra killer not me. I put killing Zebra with a recurve right there with killing a White Walker with dragon glass :>))

From: Tethered Falcon
Date: 20-Jul-22

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50lb thunderstick “X” drawing 26.5 with my 28.25 arrows. 200 single bevel up front and total weight of 604 grains with 4x4 fletch

From: George D. Stout
Date: 20-Jul-22




I shoot several bows year-round so I don't pick one in July. I also have a Marlin 30:30, model 336 with buckhorn sights that is about as traditional as it gets in Pennsylvania. Oh yes, 150 round nose.

From: JusPassin
Date: 20-Jul-22




Probably my A&H longbow, it never fails to get the job done.

From: Biscuit
Date: 20-Jul-22




Gonna be my Dwyer Dauntless [email protected] with axis trad 500s and a sharp Simmons tigershark. First year shooting Simmons so looking forward to that. Also our first year having an early velvet buck season down here.

From: tradmt
Date: 20-Jul-22




George, that’s a fine iron. :)

In all seriousness now,…I have been using a 48# Pika and Grizzlies on old Beman classics or meatheads on Easton trads. 3 , 4” feathers and a wrap. Kills them perfectly.

From: HEXX
Date: 20-Jul-22




BW KBV 40# @ 28" 56" long, 9 gpp arrow, 100 gr sigle bevel 2 blade Helix.

From: Nemophilist
Date: 20-Jul-22

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Perfect ? I don't know about perfect, but my favorite is my 1984 factory camo Bear Kodiak Takedown (60#@28") with cedar arrows and a Bear Razorhead. And my Winchester Model 1894 Saddle Ring Carbine that was made in 1918. I haven't hunted with a gun in a very long time, but you can't get much more traditional than these two.

From: monkeyball
Date: 20-Jul-22




I think Bear used it in there advertising along the way....something about being a" two season hunter."

I prefer the bow, and this year it is going to be a Hoyt Dorado w/ Satori limbs on it. About 62" and 42# @ 28" 2114's with a single bevel Grizzly up front.

I have a backup bow set up also, almost identical in length and draw as the Dorado. Its a Black Bear riser with 50# Samick Sage limbs on it. Going to find out shortly if it will behave with the same arrows, it should, but just want to be certain.

Good Shooting->->->->Craig

From: Greenstyk
Date: 20-Jul-22

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Wes Wallace Mentor 62” [email protected] shooting Legacy 2216 160 grain Ace Standard broadheads plus adapter. 596 grain total.

From: celtpaddy
Date: 20-Jul-22

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St Patrick lake yukon longbow [email protected] 536 grain cedar grizzly 2 blade. Wool

1885 CSharps Highwall 45/70 405 grain tree thumper.

From: Yellah Nocks
Date: 20-Jul-22




Quite contented with either of my sage clones. 40 [email protected], 40 at my draw, GT Traditional 600 shafts dressed in neon circus yellow and a very naughty pink feather arrangement in 3 fletch 5 inch parabolic. The shafts are front loaded with scalpel sharp Tusker 125 grain Spirit screw ins as well as 100 grain brass inserts. Either in the tree with all the other nuts, or sitting on a comfy fold up stool dressed in my finest ghillie ready to read the drag deer story hour to all the chipmunks.??

From: David McLendon
Date: 20-Jul-22

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1987 BW Diamond Anniversary Crown Jewel, 60"AMO 58#@28",10 ring string, Carbon Express-250 Heritage, 160 Snuffer and a Rick Barbee tab.

Specialty gear is shorts, t-shirt, flip flops and a lightweight ghillie built on a mesh bug suit, Thermacell and about a gallon of water.

From: Dave Lay Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 20-Jul-22

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Dont know what’s up with all the rifles here ? Might as well have xbows as well I personally prefer a recurve in the mid 50’s weight, a 600 gr arrow and 3 blade VPA

From: Nemophilist
Date: 20-Jul-22

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Here you go Monkeyball.

From: LBshooter
Date: 20-Jul-22




Well all my bows are play for deer hunting. I like bringing out different bow and trying to kill with them. My Barta bow, [email protected] with carbon express and a woodsman head. Also have Eskimos in the quiver. Also have my Ledgend styk, [email protected] and it's a60 " bow, lites and quick, cedars with a woodsman or Eskimo. Then I have my bear khunter and griz. 60",[email protected] and 56" [email protected], again either Carbo or cedars.then there's the predator, 62" [email protected] and the same arrows wood or carbon with woodsman and Eskimos. The nit before a hunt I'll choose a bow and take a few shots and then out I'll go, fun to use all my bows. Next year I'll be using a Henry 45/70 for deer during gun season.

From: elkpacker
Date: 20-Jul-22




blacktail [email protected] 340s vpa 3 blade. Use it for elk also

From: Thumper Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 20-Jul-22




The perfect setup is a 1968 Buick Electra 225 going 102fps with the high beams on. I know it doesn't seem fast, but with a 430 all iron big block under the hood it's got EFOC.

It's long, not very manueverable, but it's quiet and forgiving.

You could use something faster with lots of gadgets, but we gotta stay "TRAD"

And these have worked for 50 years...

Don't try to reinvent the wheel here.

From: Red Beastmaster
Date: 20-Jul-22




I decide on Labor Day. Once the decision is made I don't shoot any other bow until hunting season is over.

From: Live2Hunt
Date: 20-Jul-22




Last year was a bear super K, bear razorheads, doug fir arrows. This year my Wes Wallace Partner, Zwicky deltas, and carbon shafts.

From: Altitude Sickness
Date: 20-Jul-22




I get the same feeling carrying an old lever gun as I do a long bow or recurve. It puts me in a different mindset.

I love my lever guns. also, High Walls and Rolling blocks.

From: Jegs.mi Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 20-Jul-22




50# JT Traditional Archery, Zeus 64" hybrid longbow. 540gr Easton axis shafts, 200 gr ace heads or zwickeys.

From: Jeff Durnell
Date: 20-Jul-22

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It's too early to lay down specifics, but it'll be something like this osage bow, 60-65 lbs, 64-66" long, and hickory arrows... it always is. I've actually made bows during the season and killed deer with them and i have several in the works at any given time, so it's early yet and ya never know.

If it comes to gun season and I still have a tag available that doesn't need saved until the late bow/flintlock season, this 1898 Winchester 38-55 wants to make meat too so... we'll see. Not the perfect deer rifle imo, but certainly capable, and the old girl still deserves to hunt.

From: iowacedarshooter
Date: 20-Jul-22

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all i need right there!

From: CritterGitter62
Date: 20-Jul-22




Krewson selfbow, rivercane arrows, chert broadhead, as accurate and deadly as I need to be

From: cut it out
Date: 20-Jul-22

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Plan on using my HH cheetah mainly. Home made Cedar arrows and Ace Broadheads and Zwickey’s. I hunt from tree stands mostly but will throw in a ground hunt when needed.

From: cut it out
Date: 20-Jul-22




There will be others that get the call also but that is my main rig I’ll use.

From: Yellah Nocks
Date: 20-Jul-22




Thumper, THAT was funny, I don't think my deer drag story hour even measures up!!!!

From: Briar
Date: 20-Jul-22




Whatever i got in my hand when the opportunity strikes!!!

From: Kodiak
Date: 20-Jul-22




I'll be shooting a vintage 55#ish Bear of some sort, Bear broadbeads,, aluminum arrows, I'll be in a ladder stand usually.

I've found that the first couple days are probably the best, season starts mid-september. It gets good again about Halloween for two weeks and the gun season starts.

From: grizzly63
Date: 20-Jul-22




I'll try my new to me factory camo Bear Kodiak 1968 40#, GT 600 series arrows 100 gr insert 2 blade Magnus or Ace Broadhead. On the other end of the spectrum, I have a 6.5 x 300 mag that has not got a harvest yet with 127LRX for rifle season.

From: mangonboat
Date: 20-Jul-22




I favor an old bow, a sharp arrow, a comfortable place to sit on the ground, a young deer feeding with his head down about 20 yards upwind and a paperback novel in case the inexperienced deer comes down the wrong trail and will catch my scent long before he's in range.

From: Altitude Sickness
Date: 21-Jul-22

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I had a beautiful 38-55 High Wall falling block. Someone just had to have it. I think I traded it for something.

From: sammyg
Date: 21-Jul-22




I'll be using my Bear take-down during the bow season. As for the firearm season, the last few deer I've taken have been within bow range so instead of a rifle or carbine I may go back to hunting with a handgun. I've killed several with my .44 caliber Ruger Super Blackhawk.

From: Will tell
Date: 21-Jul-22

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Old Bear Grizzly, cedar arrows with Zwickeys on the killing end.

From: BigB Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 21-Jul-22




My hunting rig is a 62” 50#@28” Yellowstone Hunter longbow with Black Eagle Instinct 400 arrows with Magnus Stinger broadheads in a Selway quiver. Total arrow weight of 544 grains. If I get lucky I will go to My Old Timer Yellowstone (ASL) which is 46# and I will be using 600 GT arrows with 200 grain heads (Zwicky) Then if I get lucky my Yellowstone Longbow.

From: Joe2Crow
Date: 21-Jul-22




Think I’ll start with a recently acquired Martin Savannah, 45#@28”. Still need to do some tuning but arrows will most likely be 2016s or 500 spine gold tip blems with 175-200 grizzly heads

From: swampbowman
Date: 21-Jul-22

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I switch bows more than I should but I'll have an older recurve 45 to 50lbs with the perfect arrows . When a local archer passed away 2 years back his family had his gear auctioned off at a local archery club. I picked up 11 of his old 2019 arrows and I plan to use one to kill a buck each year until they're gone in his memory. This one was for Lou last year.

From: soldier
Date: 21-Jul-22




As long as my shoulder holds up I will be using my BW PSA with some Magnus heads then my Traditions Muzzle loader for black powder then one of my many Ruger #1’s

For rifle season then back to the BW for some more bow fun and my Hawken for the Heritage season.

From: swampbowman
Date: 21-Jul-22




1916 arrows not 2019..yesh cant type.

From: grizz
Date: 21-Jul-22




‘68 grizzly, 2114’s 30 inches long, Bear Razorhead 145/150 gr., EFA 4 arrow. Later, TC New Englander 50cal , 177gr rb on top of 90gr of Triple 7.

Good things to think on during these 105/108 temps. They will pass.

From: Andy Man
Date: 21-Jul-22




Altitude Sickness

the 1885 high wall the best looking gun ever made- I have one in .45/70

From: Bill Rickvalsky
Date: 21-Jul-22




A 40#@28" Yellowstone Longbow with either POC or Douglas Fir arrows with 160 grain Snuffers up front.

From: Andy Man
Date: 21-Jul-22

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same thing every year

From: Altitude Sickness
Date: 21-Jul-22

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I agree Andy mine had really nice wood on it also

From: Darryl/Deni
Date: 21-Jul-22




The same since 1968 as I have never had a reason to change except on bow weight over the last few years. Bear Kodiak Magnum at 45 pounds. 1916 aluminum arrows with Bear razor heads

From: David McLendon
Date: 21-Jul-22

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I came across this recently and added it to the primitive tools along with bows, Atlatls and Hog Spears.

Lyman GPR .54 Cal. I got a round ball barrel and the 1-32" conical/sabot barrel in the deal.

From: Nemophilist
Date: 21-Jul-22

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Not perfect but the bow I'll be hunting with this year will be my 1971 Bear Super Magnum 48 (55#@28"). I will be shooting either German Spruce arrows with Tusker Javelin broadheads or 2016 Aluminum arrows with Bear Razorheads. And I'll have my arrows in an Eagle Flight Archery 3 arrow strap-on quiver.

From: monkeyball
Date: 21-Jul-22




I shot some 2114,s off the Black Bear yesterday. impact was a bit left at first but then seemed to get settled in after a few handfuls.

Frank, and anyone else shooting the Black Bear/ Sage combo.......what brace are you shooting. I am at 8" but seem to be getting some string slap noise. I am going to try and swap strings for a higher brace just to see. Other than that, they are shooters.

1 bare and the rest fletched.

Good Shooting->->->->Craig

From: monkeyball
Date: 21-Jul-22




Had to let the bedded buck have a few too.......

Good Shooting->->->->Craig

From: Nemophilist
Date: 21-Jul-22




Monkeyball I believe mine is set at 8 1/2".

From: Desperado
Date: 21-Jul-22




One of my BW recurves,(I have several and love them all ), 500 spine arrows, Bear Razorheads, Death Adder tab, Rancho safari long coat for colder weather & ASAT leafy suit for warmer weather. I shoot instinctive and never use a bang stick or crossgun . Be safe.....Des

From: monkeyball
Date: 21-Jul-22




Frank, Thanks, that is what I was thinking. Just put a different string on and it's coming in at 8.75" , a bit high, but the "whack" is gone and I can deal with it now.

Good Shooting->->->->Craig

From: Blue Duck
Date: 22-Jul-22




‘69 Bear Kodiak Hunter, 53#. 500 spine GTs with 200 grain VPA single bevel.

Ruger #1 in .280 Ackley. 140 grn Barnes hand loads. Leupold 3x9.

From: Tom McCool
Date: 22-Jul-22

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DH Hi-speed 48#. cedars tipped with Bear razors and GN quiver.

From: George D. Stout
Date: 22-Jul-22




It's amazing what even a 1/4" change in brace height can do to quiet a bow.

From: N Y Yankee
Date: 22-Jul-22




This year, my '72 Super Kodiak with a Great Northern strap-on quiver and new B55 string I made. Arrows will be 30 inch POC with 3 yellow shield cut mounted helical and yellow Mercury knocks. Broadheads will be Bear green Razorheads. Not sure if I will use the auxiliary blades or not. Time will tell.

From: Verdeburl
Date: 22-Jul-22




As always one of my Blacktail recurves, or a crossbow, or a rifle, or................ Just kidding--it'll be back and forth with both of my Blacktail recurves as always.

From: Stick Hippie
Date: 22-Jul-22

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Hoping this is my perfect deer setup

Bear Anniversary A riser takedown

60” and 42#

Gray Wing cedar arrows

Bear razorheads

Great Northern quiver

From: Jack Whitmrie jr
Date: 23-Jul-22




Any good QUITE recurve/longbow 40-50# and LH. I won't own a noisy bow!

From: dakotabowhunter
Date: 23-Jul-22




I'm changing up this year, I bought a Yellowstone Old Timer that I've been shooting good this summer and I've switched to wood arrows for it. So far the biggest challenge hasn't been changing bow styles it's the wood arrows that are the challenge. Finding wood arrows that are consistent is much tougher than carbon or aluminum arrows. Haven't chosen a broadhead yet as I'm still working on the right shaft-tip weight combination. But I'll have it figure out by October.

From: iowacedarshooter
Date: 23-Jul-22

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always been one of my favourites!

From: Dirtnap
Date: 23-Jul-22




I'm switching things up this year. Going out with a Howatt Hunter pulling a little over 50#s. Still tuning some arrows but certainly y something aluminum. 2 blade heads anything over 175gn depending on what tunes well. Will shoot with a bolt in bow quiver, still haven't found one that will work well (open to suggestions). So far I'm shooting this bow very well, it throws heavy arrows with authority and much quieter than my other setup. I'm super impressed with this older model and can't wait to get everything sorted out. I have quite a few arrows to put feathers on but thinking the 2119s will match very well with it. Shooting 2413s and 2314s with it now with 200gn and 225gn points for right at 600gn total arrow weight. I have more 2413s to fletch so if 2119s don't work I know I can certainly get enough of those to fly straight.

From: Oldbowyer
Date: 23-Jul-22




Ain't no such thing as the perfect deer set up LMAO!

From: Harleywriter
Date: 23-Jul-22




Likely a 58-inch Silvertip at 55 lbs, cedar shaft with Ace Standards.

From: Don T. Lewis
Date: 23-Jul-22




The perfect deer set up could be either a classy 50’s style production bow or a high end Custom Bow like a Black Tail. Or it could even be a selfbow made from Osage. They all can be the perfect deer set up at one time or another. Enjoy the Journey it goes too fast:)

From: Buckshot
Date: 23-Jul-22




Starting with elk in September, gonna carry my 1972 Grizzly factory camo 55# or my 77 Kodiak #[email protected]". Both using Carbon Express Heritage 350's and 125 Muzzy Phantoms. Probably go on into deer season with those as well.

From: BigB Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 23-Jul-22

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From: Don T. Lewis
Date: 23-Jul-22




It could even be a Frankenbow bow ;)

From: Rocky
Date: 24-Jul-22




Well seeing as I am dropping down in weight I will be hunting with the Stalker Coyote FXT I just received last week.

43lbs 1916s and Zwicky 2 blade Deltas up front.

And a 40lb. Striker as a backup that should be coming any day now.

From: Lonster
Date: 10-Aug-22




As of right now it’s my Black Hunter #40 @ 28”, I have a 30” draw length.

Black Eagle 400’s with a VPA 200 grain single bevel. 574 grains total arrow wt.

Waiting on my Toelke Whistler #40 @ 28” to hopefully be here before long.

From: Gun Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 10-Aug-22




Bear "B" riser TD. Number 1, 50# limbs which I only get 40# from pulling with my teeth. Carbon arrows w 190 gr Cutthroat and 200 gr. VPA 3 blade BH's. Bear 4 arrow or Great Northern Strap on Bow quiver.

I don't gun hunt and killed my biggest Buck to date on the second last day of a shotgun, muzzleloader, archery season.

From: Josh H Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 10-Aug-22




Schafer Silvertip- [email protected]– I’m pulling 29 1/2

Beman centershot 340

100 grain insert- 100 grain adapter- carrying a 160 grain treeshark

675 total arrow weight

Can’t see anything stopping that set up





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