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Old Wilson Bros Black Widow

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Ragnall 01-Jul-22
Ragnall 01-Jul-22
Ragnall 01-Jul-22
Ragnall 01-Jul-22
Ragnall 01-Jul-22
Ragnall 01-Jul-22
fdp 01-Jul-22
raghorn 01-Jul-22
Seneca_Archer 01-Jul-22
Babysaph 02-Jul-22
Ray Hill 02-Jul-22
Ragnall 02-Jul-22
Steve P 02-Jul-22
Ray Hill 02-Jul-22
Ragnall 02-Jul-22
George D. Stout 02-Jul-22
Hawkeye 02-Jul-22
Mahantango 03-Jul-22
Mahantango 03-Jul-22
Mahantango 03-Jul-22
mangonboat 03-Jul-22
THarris 03-Jul-22
Ragnall 03-Jul-22
Ragnall 03-Jul-22
6-gold 15-Jul-22
Uncle Lijiah 15-Jul-22
Uncle Lijiah 15-Jul-22
From: Ragnall
Date: 01-Jul-22

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I recently picked up this old Wilson Brothers. I can't find much information on it and hoped some of you would know more. Looking on vintagearchery, I think it is a 1959. It looks a lot like "The Special" pictured in the 64 catalog. Is that what I have? Did they use some kind of composite that far back? The 64 catalog only lists woods for the riser. It also has a rest like I have never seen before. It is barely wide enough for a 5/16" carbon.

From: Ragnall
Date: 01-Jul-22

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From: Ragnall
Date: 01-Jul-22

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From: Ragnall
Date: 01-Jul-22

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From: Ragnall
Date: 01-Jul-22

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From: Ragnall
Date: 01-Jul-22

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From: fdp
Date: 01-Jul-22




The guys at Black Widow can tell you all about it.

The shelf is narrow because the Wilson bows made their name as target archers.

And during that period of time when "traditional" was just archer 99 out 99.5 archers used an elevated rest so there was hardly any need for a shelf at all.

It really shouldn't take much of a ledge for the arrow to sit on any way as long as there isn't a mechanical problem with your draw.

From: raghorn
Date: 01-Jul-22




Contact Black Widow...they can provide on the info you could want.

From: Seneca_Archer
Date: 01-Jul-22




1959

From: Babysaph Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 02-Jul-22




My friend had 3 wilson brothers bows. They all delaminated. But they were old

From: Ray Hill
Date: 02-Jul-22




That is a 1959 TF,(target & field).Handles are maple and laminations are of imported hardwood.The core is finished in black and white Gordon "Bo-Tuff" glass backing and facing.Hunter's 62" model has brick-red Gordon " Bo-Tuff" glass on back and front.The 66" model for 29" draw-weights to 55 lbs. Lengths - 62"-66"-67"-68".Also 62" hunter model.The cost was $65 .

The recommended brace height is 7 3/4"- 8 1/2",I'm shooting mine at 8 1/4" and seems to be the quietest there. Information from 59 brochure.Hope this helps.

Regards,Ray

From: Ragnall
Date: 02-Jul-22




Thanks.

From: Steve P
Date: 02-Jul-22




Ragnall, nice bow you have there.

Ray Hill, thanks for the info.

Steve

From: Ray Hill
Date: 02-Jul-22




I forgot the part about the rest.That rest was common in that time period.On the 1961 brochure the TF is shown with that type rest.Your rest probably is the original factory rest.

Regards,Ray

From: Ragnall
Date: 02-Jul-22




Thanks again. I really like that rest. The leather on mine is crumbling apart. I haven't had any luck finding another one, so my next move is to try replacing the leather while salvaging the plastic part.

From: George D. Stout
Date: 02-Jul-22




Composite was used in the 1950's, matter of fact, Frank Eicholz and his buds used it on his Gelco bows. It's not a new idea. :)

There's plenty of the old Wilson Brothers bows still going strong, and I've never personally seen one break, but I'm sure many did just as many other bows did. I had several of the older HF-1200s back in the 80's and they were fine shooters.

From: Hawkeye Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member
Date: 02-Jul-22




George, you mentioned Frank Eicholz. Did his bows have exaggerated recurves at that time, kind of like the Border and Morrisons of today? I had an opportunity to purchase one of them in the 70's (I think) and by the time I got back to the shop, it was sold. I'm a lefty and have never seen another one since then. Thank you.

From: Mahantango
Date: 03-Jul-22




I have a Gelco recurve, model 800 I think, that Frank Eicholtz was involved with and yes, it does have large hooks. I’ll post a pic later.

From: Mahantango
Date: 03-Jul-22

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From: Mahantango
Date: 03-Jul-22

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Excuse the old school camo job, the glass was hideous and I had to do something, but check out the limb profile!

From: mangonboat
Date: 03-Jul-22

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The 1958-62 Wilson Bros. TF was a very popular bow. Maple riser painted with lacquer. Black was the most common color. Less common were red ("Firefly"), blue, dark green, pale green ("Moth"), very light off-white ("Ghost").

From: THarris
Date: 03-Jul-22




Charles, I'm not sure if you're aware of this but the Wilson Brothers were recently inducted into the National Archery Hall of Fame, the past May.

It was the HOF's 50th Anniversary and I was very fortunate to have attended it. The largest crowd to have ever been there.

Ken Beck actually was their representative for their induction.

If you'll go the the National Archery Hall of Fame web site, you can see many of the photos taken there.

In my opinion, more of us archers need to join the Archery hall of Fame as Supporting Members to help support this Historical Museum.

Terry Harris

From: Ragnall
Date: 03-Jul-22




Thanks for the info. I will check it out.

From: Ragnall
Date: 03-Jul-22




Mangonboat, that looks exactly like mine. Thanks

From: 6-gold
Date: 15-Jul-22




Lon Stanton from Mo. won the 1958 National in Grayling Mich. I was there.

From: Uncle Lijiah
Date: 15-Jul-22

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This one has been documented as a 1959. That's when my cousin had it made for her. Black Widow provided me with the sales record.

From: Uncle Lijiah
Date: 15-Jul-22

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