Traditional Archery Discussions on the Leatherwall


Most I’ve seen one go for

Messages posted to thread:
Nrthernrebel05 30-Jun-22
George D. Stout 30-Jun-22
fdp 30-Jun-22
bodymanbowyer 30-Jun-22
B.T. 30-Jun-22
Don T. Lewis 30-Jun-22
4nolz@work 30-Jun-22
Nomad 30-Jun-22
TradToTheBone 30-Jun-22
Babysaph 30-Jun-22
old fudd 30-Jun-22
bowhunt 30-Jun-22
Jim 30-Jun-22
Suedog 30-Jun-22
Murph 30-Jun-22
Mike E 01-Jul-22
SB 01-Jul-22
shandorweiss 01-Jul-22
DanaC 01-Jul-22
Osr144 01-Jul-22
Murph 01-Jul-22
treetopper 01-Jul-22
Osr144 01-Jul-22
Osr144 01-Jul-22
Harleywriter 01-Jul-22
Missouribreaks 01-Jul-22
Missouribreaks 01-Jul-22
Kodiak 01-Jul-22
Babysaph 02-Jul-22
PECO2 02-Jul-22
Tom McCool 03-Jul-22
Babysaph 03-Jul-22
Nemophilist 03-Jul-22
Seneca_Archer 26-Jul-22
Danielb 26-Jul-22
Nrthernrebel05 26-Jul-22
Kodiak 26-Jul-22
Seneca_Archer 26-Jul-22
Seneca_Archer 26-Jul-22
4nolz@work 26-Jul-22
pondscum2 31-Jul-22
Frisky 31-Jul-22
B.T. 31-Jul-22
From: Nrthernrebel05
Date: 30-Jun-22




A VERY pristine’59 Kodiak just sold for $1675! I thought the economy was dropping the price of bows. There is one not quite as nice for sale on eBay $1600 buy it now.

From: George D. Stout
Date: 30-Jun-22




You don't know what the value was to the person(s) wanting it. It could have been a special provenance like a family bow, or one that had some special meaning to the buyer, or some other anomaly one can't be aware of if not in the mix. The average 59 will not go anywhere near that. I know a Kodiak Special Deluxe recently went high, saw that over on a Facebook traditional page, but there's something behind that for sure.

As for asking price on Ebay, that is meaningless since I've seen guys asking $500.00 for a Pearson solid fiberglass bow that sold for $9.99. The key to bringing prices down though is not to spend the high dollars in the first place, especially for a bow that could blow up the first time you pull it back. Don't make any dang sense to me.

From: fdp
Date: 30-Jun-22




In my mind that is completely insane.

But folks have the right to buy whatever they want for as much as they want to pay for it.

From: bodymanbowyer
Date: 30-Jun-22




It ain't nothing near as good as my 64" RKK 59er. Mine is worth way more. JF

From: B.T.
Date: 30-Jun-22




Excellent condition original bows are very hard to find. That's not a high price considering.

From: Don T. Lewis
Date: 30-Jun-22




A 60+ year old highly desirable 59 Kodiak in mint condition? I’d say because of condition that’s a pretty rare bird. Obviously only worth what somebody is willing to spend. In this case over $1600.00 bucks. Bear collectors are willing to pay for bows in excellent condition. They get harder and harder to come by with each passing year.

From: 4nolz@work
Date: 30-Jun-22




Something special about it I guess.Length,previous owner,etc

From: Nomad Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 30-Jun-22




But it nows are hail Mary’s for stupid people!

From: TradToTheBone
Date: 30-Jun-22




How do I contact the buyer? I’ve got some bows to sell.

From: Babysaph Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 30-Jun-22




Everything is going up. I just had the dealer that I bought my camper from in Ohio call me and offer me $4k more than I paid for it in 2019. Sold

From: old fudd
Date: 30-Jun-22




Whats the value of a near perfect 60inch 40lb super grizz fasco

From: bowhunt
Date: 30-Jun-22




Serious collectors are bidding on these bows most likely when the price goes above what most would consider to be absurd.Its a niche market.But it appears that market is strong enough and enough buyers in it to drive the price up.Escecially on what are considered more valuble collectors bows in superb original condition.Out of my league for sure!

From: Jim Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 30-Jun-22




There aren’t any of them worth that much money. LOL

From: Suedog
Date: 30-Jun-22




A diamond could be just a little rock in someone's shoe,

From: Murph
Date: 30-Jun-22




One thing for sure is you can make money , But you can't make a vintage classic bow.

From: Mike E
Date: 01-Jul-22




That's funny, there are probably 8 or more Bears that are nicer bows than the '59.

From: SB
Date: 01-Jul-22




Picked up a mint 50# '59 Kodiak years ago in an obscure junkshop in a small town for 40.00 .

From: shandorweiss
Date: 01-Jul-22




I have heard that before Bear made the 59 remake, mint vintage 59 Kodiaks routinely sold for $1000-1,500 or more. A couple of years ago a guy in the local Craigslist had one listed that had been his father's. He wanted $3000 for it and he said not to make low ball offers because he knew for sure it was worth that. Perhaps that's what his father paid, I don't know. But I doubt he sold it for his asking price.

After the remakes were introduced, vintage 59 prices dropped to around $400-600. Less than a new remake. Lately prices for mint ones has been going up up and up. Yeah, we tend to think collectors are paying those high prices but that's not always the case. At least not old collectors. I know for sure that at least in a couple of cases, the buyers were young guys who recently jumped into the vintage bow thing. They have money and they want what they want, and they don't really have a way of getting bows through a network of old friends. So they bid high.

BTW, I'm not one of those young guys even though I've paid a lot for some vintage bows I really wanted.

From: DanaC
Date: 01-Jul-22




Collectors are breeds apart. Some see things as 'investments', some are satisfying the nostalgia 'itch', a few are just plain obsessive.

I've got a fair few dollars in my bow but that's because it shoots well for me; it's metal and carbon and some would barf at the 'esthetics' of it. There might be one or two Morrison collectors out there who don't have a G3 riser in their set and would pay well for mine, but screw 'em. ;-)

From: Osr144
Date: 01-Jul-22




It's their money.The sad thing is with all the hardships some folk go through that kind of money could be better spent.Charity auctions are Ok and I have payed far too much for items in those cases but generally I can't personally justify paying ridiculas prices for so called collectors items.Can"t Remember the song name but It says Millionaires buying Van Gough"s for the cost of a hospital wing.So true in this day and age.I also make skate boards and made a good replica of a iconic 1970"s skateboard .These are very hard to distinguish from the original.I only made 6 of them and only gave them away to close friends .The originals go for $3.000 or more.Some people wanted to pay me $1.000 for them and I wouldn't sell to them .These scumbags artificially age them and sell them to unsuspecting collectors at the high prices.That happens with bows at times too .Next year it will be Bob Lee or Hill bows.It always changes.I won,t play that game.If I wan't an original that I can't get or afford I will do my upmost to research it and would build a good replica.Don't you folk get caught out.I hear what you are saying though Cheers Osr

From: Murph
Date: 01-Jul-22




Shandor said it better then I could.

From: treetopper
Date: 01-Jul-22




Buyers and sellers never reach a deal until both parties are satisfied that they have arrived at an agreeable number that both can live with.

Don't matter much what anyone else thinks.

From: Osr144
Date: 01-Jul-22




Thank you Craig that's the song.Very poinient lyrics.Me I am Mr cheap bow never payed more than $300 for a bow and I got 25 of them.Bows were chonce the compounds rose to prominace.You couldn't give recurves or long naws away .No one wanted them That was the time to be buying the classics

From: Osr144
Date: 01-Jul-22




Thank you Craig that's the song.Very poinient lyrics.Me, I am Mr cheap bow never payed more than $300 for a bow and I got 25 of them.Bows were cheap once the compounds rose to prominace.You couldn't give recurves or long bows away .No one wanted them That was the time to be buying the classics.I wonder how many went to land fill.The resurgence of trad bows has seen obscene prices being payed these days.Still plenty to go around though.Just remember buyer be ware .Cheers Osr

From: Harleywriter
Date: 01-Jul-22




Shopping on the bay is buyer beware. Many sellers don’t have a clue but if somebody will pay,who cares. They don’t know what 1953 means, they don’t include draw weights or spine… on and on. And of course every pawnshop Shylock sets their prices based on Internet.

Well forgive my rant and happy hunting.

From: Missouribreaks
Date: 01-Jul-22




Looks like a nice bow, somebody made a good purchase.

From: Missouribreaks
Date: 01-Jul-22




Looks like a nice bow, somebody made a good purchase.

From: Kodiak
Date: 01-Jul-22




10-15 years ago nobody would've blinked at that price.

REAL '59 Kodiaks ain't being made no more. The price for a good one is market based.

From: Babysaph Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 02-Jul-22




Now look at what those Al reader bows are going for. Pretty sad

From: PECO2
Date: 02-Jul-22




Not even on the lotto list. Don't care if it is worth that much, or if he paid too much. Not even close to being worth it to me. But good for the guy who wanted it that bad and was able to afford it.

From: Tom McCool
Date: 03-Jul-22




Sounds like two happy guys...1 buyer and 1 seller...and it didn’t cost the rest of us a penny.

From: Babysaph Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 03-Jul-22




Good point Tom.

From: Nemophilist
Date: 03-Jul-22




X2 with Tom.

From: Seneca_Archer
Date: 26-Jul-22

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Well the latest one just went for over 2K!!

From: Danielb Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 26-Jul-22




Let's see, would I rather pay for the enjoyment of owning a vintage bow in pristine shape or some lawyer to fleece me? People have choices and make them to suit their own best purposes.

From: Nrthernrebel05
Date: 26-Jul-22




At least he got a genuine Bear Quiver too. ;-)

From: Kodiak
Date: 26-Jul-22




Seneca, looks like an early pre-coin bow, unless I'm just not seeing it on my phone.

$2K ain't all that much money anymore...at least for alot of people.

From: Seneca_Archer
Date: 26-Jul-22




It is indeed coin-less, so a truly very rare bird. The I-beam also doesn't look like purpleheart.

From: Seneca_Archer
Date: 26-Jul-22




It is indeed coin-less, so a truly very rare bird. The I-beam also doesn't look like purpleheart.

From: 4nolz@work
Date: 26-Jul-22




happy seller happy buyer its just not your cup of tea

From: pondscum2
Date: 31-Jul-22




sounds a mite high to me, unless unusual weight, known history, something. maybe former owner? what archery buff wouldn't pay good money for one of Mr. Bears bows ? i'm hoping for another pre- medallion '59 Kodiak to show up on ebay, while thinking that the one might have been all i'll ever see...

From: Frisky
Date: 31-Jul-22




I wouldn't pay more than $100 for one, even if I had just won Mega Millions. The bow to get is the Kodiak TD. If you don't have one of those, you're not even a bowhunter.

Joe

From: B.T.
Date: 31-Jul-22




Nice rare early original bow and quiver, it's a much better value than buying a $2,000 newly made bow.





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